Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[killeverything]

Gio Gonzalez gets his 19th win. We all thought the NL Cy was RA Dickey's to lose, but do you think the BBWAA give it to Gio over Dickey, based on wins? Not unlike Barry Zito's erroneous win over Pedro Martinez in '02.

Lance Berkman is done for the season.

Mark Teixeria is out 12 to 14 days. The MFY have a pretty easy schedule though so it shouldn't effect them too much.

[Machado]

Gio Gonzalez gets his 19th win. We all thought the NL Cy was RA Dickey's to lose, but do you think the BBWAA give it to Gio over Dickey, based on wins? Not unlike Barry Zito's erroneous win over Pedro Martinez in '02.

Lance Berkman is done for the season.

Mark Teixeria is out 12 to 14 days. The MFY have a pretty easy schedule though so it shouldn't effect them too much.

The Tex injury really frustrates me. He knew he was not yet 100%, he personally saw how Jeter missed about 3 weeks of action with his own calf injury last year or the year before, and he still convinced in the team to insert him into the line-up and now he's out another 10 days minimum
Poor choice by Tex.

[johnk5150]

Cubs really hurt their wild card chances last night.

Cough.

[Facedown]

Red Sox are completely fucked up.
They're helping the team that knocked them out of the playoffs last year?
Idiots.

[SkyDog112046]

Red Sox are completely fucked up.
They're helping the team that knocked them out of the playoffs last year?
Idiots.

They are hurting the Yankees. Most people would rather see them help al-queda than help NY.

[Facedown]

Red Sox are completely fucked up.
They're helping the team that knocked them out of the playoffs last year?
Idiots.

They are hurting the Yankees. Most people would rather see them help al-queda than help NY.

Obviously I was joking, hence the " "

[Facedown]

The baseball gods do have a sense of humor.
Red Sox/Dodgers next season.

[johnk5150]

Cubs magic number is one. The bad way. So you're saying there's a chance.

[killeverything]

The baseball gods do have a sense of humor.
Red Sox/Dodgers next season.

The Baseball Gods are fair and true. Just like Adrian Gonzalez's .227BAA...

[johnk5150]

Good news White Sox fans. The rainout means the Tigers can't beat them again last night.

[NeverSurrender]

The baseball gods do have a sense of humor.
Red Sox/Dodgers next season.

The Baseball Gods are fair and true. Just like Adrian Gonzalez's .227BAA...

Dodgers stadium has ruined a few batting averages in it's day.

kickass story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=578VI6nR ... ature=plcp

[johnk5150]

Tigers lose a bad one.

[Ham Stroker's Ejacula]

[johnk5150]

http://deadspin.com/5944189/some-jackas ... ng-ejected

More entertaining than what was happening on the field probably.

[Machado]

Major League Baseball is investigating reports that Toronto Blue Jays shortstop Yunel Escobar wore eye black displaying a gay slur written in Spanish during a recent game.

At least one photo taken by Getty Images shows Escobar wearing the eye black with the slur during Saturday's game against the Boston Red Sox.

Getty Images confirmed the photo's authenticity to ESPN.com's Keith Law.

MLB spokesman Pat Courtney confirmed to ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick and The Associated Press that the commissioner's office is looking into the reports.

"The Toronto Blue Jays do not support discrimination of any kind nor condone the message displayed by Yunel Escobar during Saturday's game," the Blue Jays said in a statement Monday night, adding the club "takes this situation seriously and is investigating the matter."

The team said Escobar will be available to the media Tuesday afternoon at Yankee Stadium along with general manager Alex Anthopoulos, manager John Farrell and coach Luis Rivera.

One of Escobar's agents declined to comment when reached by Crasnick on Monday.

Escobar, 29, played the entire game Saturday but was scratched from the lineup Sunday due to flu-like symptoms.

[Facedown]

When I saw that pic I thought he was trying to spell True American but failed.

[Machado]

Toronto Blue Jays shortstop Yunel Escobar has been suspended three games without pay for displaying a gay slur on his eye black during a recent game.

"I'm sorry for the actions of the other day," Escobar said through a translator during a news conference at Yankee Stadium. "It was not something I intended to be offensive. It was something I just put on the sticker on my face as a joke. There was nothing intentional directed at anyone in particular.

"I don't have anything against homosexuals. I have friends who are gay. In reality I'd like to ask for the apologies of all those who have been offended by this."

Considering Escobar makes about $5 million this season, he will lose over $92,000 during his suspension.

Escobar's forfeited salary during his suspension will be directed by the Blue Jays to You Can Play, a Toronto-based organization promoting peaceful and conflict-resolving lifestyles, and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, the team announced.

Escobar also will participate in an outreach initiative to help educate society about insensitivity and tolerance to others.

"I can guarantee this will not happen again in my career," Escobar said. "And it's a lesson I've learned and will never commit again in my career. I'm sorry, I didn't mean for this to be misinterpreted by the gay community. I apologize.

"It's just something that's been said around amongst Latinos. It's not something that's meant to be offensive. For us, it didn't have the significance to the way it's being interpreted right now. It's a word used often within teams. ... I agree with the suspension and don't have any problem with it."

[johnk5150]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

[johnk5150]

"I have friends who are gay.

The ultimate admission/backtrack.

[tin00can]

"I have friends who are gay.

The ultimate admission/backtrack.

I have friends who live in Chicago.

[tin00can]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

Trout put up some absolutely incredible numbers at the start of the year but he's come back to earth the last month plus. He's still putting up good numbers but not like what he was before. I think Cabrera will get the MVP just because some of the voters will content themselves with knowing Trout will get the ROY and vote for Miggy.

[johnk5150]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

Trout put up some absolutely incredible numbers at the start of the year but he's come back to earth the last month plus. He's still putting up good numbers but not like what he was before. I think Cabrera will get the MVP just because some of the voters will content themselves with knowing Trout will get the ROY and vote for Miggy.

I think it will be close.

[johnk5150]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

Trout put up some absolutely incredible numbers at the start of the year but he's come back to earth the last month plus. He's still putting up good numbers but not like what he was before. I think Cabrera will get the MVP just because some of the voters will content themselves with knowing Trout will get the ROY and vote for Miggy.

"The Tigers are the worst defensive team I've ever seen. I can't with good conscience vote for Cabrera given his defensive inability." Peter Gammons.

[Machado]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... t=hp_wr_a1

Jason Giambi is nearing the end of his career as a 41 years old MLB player.

Very informative article about Giambi.

[Facedown]

Anybody believe that rumour about Cano?
Personally, I don't but I've been fooled before.

[TawnyVonJagger]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

Trout put up some absolutely incredible numbers at the start of the year but he's come back to earth the last month plus. He's still putting up good numbers but not like what he was before. I think Cabrera will get the MVP just because some of the voters will content themselves with knowing Trout will get the ROY and vote for Miggy.

"The Tigers are the worst defensive team I've ever seen. I can't with good conscience vote for Cabrera given his defensive inability." Peter Gammons.

Yeah, he was pretty shitty here when he was with the Marlins, but most Marlins fans couldn't or wouldn't see it. They STILL mourn him. I miss his bat like whoa, but his defense and attitude made me glad he was shipped off. When a ball would go by him, I'd either yell, "OLE!" or "YOU COULD AT LEAST WAVE TO IT!" HORRIBLE glove. MVP goes to Trouty.

[Machado]

Anybody believe that rumour about Cano?
Personally, I don't but I've been fooled before.

No
So many major media outlets have reported the Twitter rumors were false and there is no story there.
The person who began the Twitter rumor has since locked his twitter account.

Tordjman just has no knowledge for what journalism actually is, o


As it was, Tordjman was actually on Twitter asking random people with no connection to the Yankees or Cano if they had heard anything more specific about it. I’d show you the tweets now, but between yesterday and today Tordjman locked his Twitter feed. Probably a good move on his part.

[killeverything]

Think about this. Miguel Cabrera could earn the triple crown and still lose the MVP to Trout. The only two players to put up Trout's numbers were pretty good. Joe Morgan and a guy named Ricky Henderson. Trout arguably plays a more important position than Cabrera as well.

Trout put up some absolutely incredible numbers at the start of the year but he's come back to earth the last month plus. He's still putting up good numbers but not like what he was before. I think Cabrera will get the MVP just because some of the voters will content themselves with knowing Trout will get the ROY and vote for Miggy.

"The Tigers are the worst defensive team I've ever seen. I can't with good conscience vote for Cabrera given his defensive inability." Peter Gammons.

John Dewan's Stat Of The Week

August 20, 2012

The White Sox, Tigers And Defense

The White Sox hold a two-game lead over the Tigers today in the race for the AL Central Division title. One of the key reasons the Sox are on top is defense. Not because theirs is so good, but because the Tigers’ is so bad. Detroit has the worst defense in the American League. Compared to the average team, they have lost 39 runs on defense. The White Sox’s defense has saved five runs, which makes them an average defense.

That's a difference of 44 runs, a difference of four games in the standings.

When the Tigers signed Prince Fielder to team up with Miguel Cabrera, the plan was to supercharge their offense. While both players are having excellent seasons, it hasn't worked as well as planned. In 2011, the Tigers scored 4.9 runs per game. This year, they are down to 4.5 runs. Defensively, both Fielder and Cabrera are hurting the team. Ten of the 39 runs lost on defense are from those two, five apiece at their respective positions.

I am somewhat surprised that Cabrera hasn’t been worse at third base. In playing third base with Florida in 2006 and 2007, he lost 29 runs defensively. He was moved to first base with good reason. Returning to third base this year, we projected him to lose about 15 runs for the Tigers this year, and he’s only lost 5 so far. Here are the defensive performances of some of the other players on contenders that have changed positions this year:

Notable Players with New Positions
Player 2011 Pos Runs Saved 2012 Pos Runs Saved Change
Mark Reynolds, BAL 3B -22 1B -3 19
Alex Rios, CWS CF -9 RF 6 15
Hanley Ramirez, LAD SS -13 3B -11 2
Miguel Cabrera, DET 1B -3 3B -5 -2
Brennan Boesch, DET LF 5 RF -8 -13
Atop the list is a player that has never been synonymous with good defense, Mark Reynolds. This season, Reynolds has moved from third base to first and held his own. His defensive improvement has been a major part of the Orioles’ late-season success and helped him consistently remain in the lineup.

Next to Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez was the biggest name to move to a new position this season. His move has not fared as well. Ramirez has cost the Marlins and Dodgers an estimated 11 runs at third base after costing them 13 runs at shortstop last year. Unlike Cabrera, Ramirez moved to third from a more-demanding position. His teams likely hoped for a bigger improvement.

In the outfield, Alex Rios and Brennan Boesch have become primarily right fielders this season. They are responsible for 14 runs of the 44-run disparity between the White Sox and Tigers, more even than Cabrera and Fielder. That is a flip of last year, when Boesch was 14 runs better in left field than Rios was in center.

[Machado]

Melky Cabrera has been disqualified from the National League batting title at his own request, a person familiar with the discussions told The Associated Press.

The person said Cabrera asked the players' association to convey his desire to the commissioner's office and that an agreement to make him ineligible was reached Friday. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.

CSNBayArea.com first reported the disqualification.

[johnk5150]

The Cardinals with a BAD loss today here. Matheny should have let Carpenter go longer.