Stay Classy Bill Belicheat...Stay Classy.....

[bane]

Because their recievers can't catch a pass? Because the Giants are better? Dont be an idiot Pimp13.

Typical moron. So Brady deserves all the credit for winning 3 super bowls, yet none of the blame for losing two? So his safety and interception didnt have a big effect on the outcome?

Has this board ever seen a bigger mong? Even that Tebow sack licking LAidiot isn't as dumb as you.

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

I fail to see how anyone can defend an organization that was caught red-handed filming other teams walk-throughs. And if Bob Kraft had any spine he would've fired Bill Belichick and cleaned house but instead he chose to give him a $500,000 bonus when the fines were levied by the NFL.

The New England Patriots are classless organization.

[bane]

Because their recievers can't catch a pass? Because the Giants are better? Dont be an idiot Pimp13.

And Brady threw 3 interceptions in his last two games, not to mention the saftey he gave up because he is so afraid of geting hit. brady went 2/7 on that last drive he is to blame. If it wasn't for welker the pats would not have even made it to the playoffs, so spare me the lame excuses.

Saying the Giants were the better team is a lame excuse? It's a football game, no single play swings the outcome, but you and I both know that if Welker catches that 2nd and 11 the outcome is probably different. It doesn't really matter. My point was, they got there and lost a close game. If they were only winning because of illegal film, they wouldn't have.

[LAglamrocker]

what was Pats defense rank those 3 years? How many Probowl players were on the team?
How many future Hall of Fame players were on the team?

[Crazy Levi]

I fail to see how anyone can defend an organization that was caught red-handed filming other teams walk-throughs.

Actually, there is zero evidence that they recorded any walk-throughs, and the newspaper that printed the claim was forced to retract it.

As Latardrocker would say...ha ha ha

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

Saying the Giants were the better team is a lame excuse? It's a football game, no single play swings the outcome, but you and I both know that if Welker catches that 2nd and 11 the outcome is probably different. It doesn't really matter. My point was, they got there and lost a close game. If they were only winning because of illegal film, they wouldn't have.

[Crazy Levi]

I stand by my belief that Brady is this generations Montana.

You shouldn't stand by any of your beliefs. They are all extremely shoddy and poorly conceived, and could topple over onto you at any time.

[Facedown]

I fail to see how anyone can defend an organization that was caught red-handed filming other teams walk-throughs. And if Bob Kraft had any spine he would've fired Bill Belichick and cleaned house but instead he chose to give him a $500,000 bonus when the fines were levied by the NFL.

The New England Patriots are classless organization.

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

I fail to see how anyone can defend an organization that was caught red-handed filming other teams walk-throughs.

Actually, there is zero evidence that they recorded any walk-throughs, and the newspaper that printed the claim was forced to retract it.

As Latardrocker would say...ha ha ha

that's fascinating I wonder why the NFL levied fines and penalties against them that there was no tangible evidence? Better call Scotland Yard to figure out this mystery...

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

I stand by my belief that Brady is this generations Montana.

You shouldn't stand by any of your beliefs. They are all extremely shoddy and poorly conceived, and could topple over onto you at any time.

I will review the source..... What salient observations have you brought to the discussion let me see zip zilch nada.

[poizond13]

The facts are what they are. The pats have not won a super bowl since they were caught cheating and their massive vault of illegal video was confiscated and destroyed. Make your own conclusion. One thing thats for sure is that brady will not win another super bowl because he is not a big game qb and chokes under pressure, as shown in the previous two games. Brady cost them the ring.

[LAglamrocker]

no single play swings the outcome?

really?

Packers Superbowl run. started that way

and about 50% of NFL games played every week

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

no single play swings the outcome?

really?

http://youtu.be/yXLRCrPAjo8

[bane]

Saying the Giants were the better team is a lame excuse? It's a football game, no single play swings the outcome, but you and I both know that if Welker catches that 2nd and 11 the outcome is probably different. It doesn't really matter. My point was, they got there and lost a close game. If they were only winning because of illegal film, they wouldn't have.

You may want to highlight the word "probably" wonderkind. Does any of that have any bearing on your premise? You know, the one that says the Pats only win when they cheat?

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

You may want to highlight the word "probably" wonderkind. Does any of that have any bearing on your premise? Aou know, the one that says the Pats only win when they cheat?

you are like a man that is drowning in a sea of lies clutching a razor blade. Quit trying to twist my words and answer the question about the new New England Patriots failure to win a Super Bowl since the allegations were brought to light. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

[LAglamrocker]

you really cant play the "what if" game

what if
Brady didn't make the bonehead safety pass
Giants dont recover 2 fumbles
and so on

[cantstopthemusic]

Quit trying to twist my words and answer the question about the new New England Patriots failure to win a Super Bowl since the allegations were brought to light. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

Tom Brady Super Bowl W-L record (pre-Gisele): 3-0

Tom Brady Super Bowl W-L record (post-Gisele): 0-2

DO THE MATH!

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

Quit trying to twist my words and answer the question about the new New England Patriots failure to win a Super Bowl since the allegations were brought to light. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

Tom Brady Super Bowl W-L record (pre-Gisele): 3-0

Tom Brady Super Bowl W-L record (post-Gisele): 0-2

DO THE MATH!

http://youtu.be/fzUTXpvBTVc

[dtmfs]

I stand by my belief that Brady is this generations Montana.

an average QB playing with an extemely talented team with the best coach in the game currently.

The only year you could make that case was 07' when he had Moss, even then that team wasent as good all around as Montanas 49ers. In 2 of the 3 SB's he won his main running back was Kevin Faulk and his best WR was deion branch. I stand by my belief that Brady's titles with those teams were more impressive than what Montana did.

[Crazy Levi]

that's fascinating I wonder why the NFL levied fines and penalties against them that there was no tangible evidence? Better call Scotland Yard to figure out this mystery...

You fucking retard. Why don't you do a little research on "spygate" and find out for yourself why fines were levied. It certainly wasn't for "recording walk throughs."

[poizond13]

that's fascinating I wonder why the NFL levied fines and penalties against them that there was no tangible evidence? Better call Scotland Yard to figure out this mystery...

You fucking retard. Why don't you do a little research on "spygate" and find out for yourself why fines were levied. It certainly wasn't for "recording walk throughs."

They cheated, plain and simple. To what extent, we'll never know, because the NFL destroyed the tapes. But cheating is cheating, plain and simple. No surprise to me that a scumbag like yourself would happily defend a cheater.

[Crazy Levi]

They cheated, plain and simple. To what extent, we'll never know, because the NFL destroyed the tapes. But cheating is cheating, plain and simple. No surprise to me that a scumbag like yourself would happily defend a cheater.

As usual, mongs of a feather stick together.

I don't give two fucks about Bellicheat(lol). I'm merely pointing out that Pimp has no idea what he's talking about if he thinks the Patriots were "fined for taping walkthroughs."

And as usual, you are too stupid to follow even the simplest of discussions and have no ability to execute even the most cursory of logical deductions. I thought they didn't do lobotomies anymore but you are living proof that this is not the case.

[MickeyG]

Recording signals wasn't it? Still kinda low, if you ask me. It can't be defended, but it is kinda boring to keep going on about it.

[Luminiferous]

Serious question for everyone here.... Just wondering.

Do you consider feigning injuries "cheating?"

[Crazy Levi]

Serious question for everyone here.... Just wondering.

Do you consider feigning injuries "cheating?"

Nothing is cheating except spygate, in the history of sports.

[poizond13]

They cheated, plain and simple. To what extent, we'll never know, because the NFL destroyed the tapes. But cheating is cheating, plain and simple. No surprise to me that a scumbag like yourself would happily defend a cheater.

As usual, mongs of a feather stick together.

I don't give two fucks about Bellicheat(lol). I'm merely pointing out that Pimp has no idea what he's talking about if he thinks the Patriots were "fined for taping walkthroughs."

And as usual, you are too stupid to follow even the simplest of discussions and have no ability to execute even the most cursory of logical deductions. I thought they didn't do lobotomies anymore but you are living proof that this is not the case.

I know exactly what you were getting at. And my point, which YOU were too stupid to understand, is that YOU don't know what was on the tapes. Nobody does, because the NFL destroyed them before anyone else could see them. There could very well have been walkthroughs on the tapes. Where there's smoke, there's usually a fire.

[poizond13]

Serious question for everyone here.... Just wondering.

Do you consider feigning injuries "cheating?"

Nothing is cheating except spygate, in the history of sports.

Typical douchebag logic. "Everybody cheats, so it's ok." I'm sure you live your life by that very philosophy. Dirtbag.

[Luminiferous]

No answer the question Greg? Do you think players blatantly feigning injuries is cheating?

[poizond13]

No answer the question Greg? Do you think players blatantly feigning injuries is cheating?

Yes its obviously cheating. Stupid question.

[cantstopthemusic]

No answer the question Greg? Do you think players blatantly feigning injuries is cheating?

Yes its obviously cheating. Stupid question.

Mon Sep 19 10:07pm EDT

Two Giants players feign simultaneous injuries to slow Rams

By Chris Chase


Sam Bradford(notes) and the St. Louis Rams offense were running the no-huddle offense on a depleted New York Giants defense on Monday night and doing it with great success. Unable to stop the Rams through traditional means like tackling and pass deflecting, the Giants tried a different strategy: faking injuries.

Following an 8-yard run on first down, two Giants players, Deon Grant(notes) and Jacquian Williams(notes), simultaneously fell to the ground as the Rams came to the line without a huddle. The phoniness of both injuries was so obvious it was called out in the booth by the usually uncritical ESPN announcing team.

Trainers attended to Grant (Williams got up once he realized there was another possum on the field), play was stopped, the Giants caught their breath while waiting for the game to resume and then held on the next two plays to force a Rams field goal.