Any Love For The College Game?

[DaveB]

^^^Can't remember which one it was but one of the ESPN guys was saying that it such a crock that a player can't ask for a few bucks for his autograph but the school charge you money to come in and get it on their terms.

That is truly fucked up!

[BodyBagz]

Well hell, I guess I will post back in here and bump this thread again...cant let it die afterall!

So, this past Saturday had some kick-ass games and culminated with some changes coming in the new CFP Poll later today. Projections look as follows:

#1 Miss State beat UT Martin in a warm-up game for next weekends battle against Alabama.( No movement in the polls expected)
#2 Florida State laid a mild spanking on Virginia, still rolling right through the ACC without a hiccup...( No movement in the polls expected)
#3 Auburn suffers a terrible, possibly catastrophic loss to Texas A&M, at home. The Tigers still have Bama in the Iron Bowl, and that should be a hell of a game as well. (Expect Auburn to drop, likely to #7 at best, 1st of the 2 loss teams)
#4 Oregon was locked into a fight with the Utes, but prevailed in the end (they move up likely to #3 or #4)
#5 Alabama went to Death Valley and stole their play-off lives back from the Mad Hatter and his bunch in OT...twas not a pretty game by any stretch..Bama has work to do still...Miss State & Auburn still left...(Expect them to move up to #4, possibly #3 depending on the voters)
#6 TCU took a nice bite out of #7 Kansas State. (TCU will move up, K State will likely fall out of the Top 10)
#8 Michigan State got beat by#14 Ohio State..this should drop the Spartans out of the Top 10 and possibly move Ohio State into the Top 10)
#9 Arizona State beat the fight right out of the #10 Notre Dame Irish! The Irish will drop, likely to #13-15

[BodyBagz]

Uh oh...seems the Panel may be stirring the pot with their new rankings...
1 loss Oregon just leap-frogged a lossless Florida State...

1. Mississippi State
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. TCU
5. Alabama
6. Arizona State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Auburn
10. Mississippi

[Machado]

Uh oh...seems the Panel may be stirring the pot with their new rankings...
1 loss Oregon just leap-frogged a lossless Florida State...

1. Mississippi State
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. TCU
5. Alabama
6. Arizona State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Auburn
10. Mississippi

These rankings are so lame. The only time any rankings are needed is at the end of the season.
There is no need for these rankings in November. What is the point?
More games to be played. Conference championship games to be played.
Millions of dollars for schools to be made while the student athletes suffer in poverty.

[Redman77]

What is the point?

Seriously? How about everyone & their brother talking about it & tuning in to watch the big games leading up to the final weekend. Dumb-ass.

[DaveB]

No. 1 Miss St. still has No. 5 Bama and No. 10 Ole Miss. *If* they pull out wins against both teams, they're in the SEC championship game. I can't remember how the East looks with Georgia's ability to win that side. If they do, and with Gurley back...I think Georgia takes the SEC. That is *IF* it ends up being Mss St. from the West. That side could very well go to Bama.

Still too much left to play out in the SEC.

No. 2 Oregon has two games left that they win easily. They then get No. 6 Arizona St. in the PAC-12 championship game. If Arizona St. wins that, they're likely in the playoff.

No. 3 Florida State has the ACC wrapped up but they have two rivalry games with Miami and Florida. I think they can win both but rivalry games are always hard to predict.

No 4. TCU / No 7. Baylor. Who knows what the fuck happens there.

So, as I said, four more weeks of football left to play and there are so many things that can happen. Hell...by the time this is all over, we may have Marshall in the playoff! LOL

[Machado]

What is the point?

Seriously? How about everyone & their brother talking about it & tuning in to watch the big games leading up to the final weekend. Dumb-ass.

I'm glad we agree. The debate week after week about which team should be ranked, and which team has the strongest schedule and which team did this and that, pointless.

[bane]

Uh oh...seems the Panel may be stirring the pot with their new rankings...
1 loss Oregon just leap-frogged a lossless Florida State...

1. Mississippi State
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. TCU
5. Alabama
6. Arizona State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Auburn
10. Mississippi

These rankings are so lame. The only time any rankings are needed is at the end of the season.
There is no need for these rankings in November. What is the point?
More games to be played. Conference championship games to be played.
Millions of dollars for schools to be made while the student athletes suffer in poverty.

Back when Oklahoma didn't suck you were singing a completely different tune.

[Machado]

Uh oh...seems the Panel may be stirring the pot with their new rankings...
1 loss Oregon just leap-frogged a lossless Florida State...

1. Mississippi State
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. TCU
5. Alabama
6. Arizona State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Auburn
10. Mississippi

These rankings are so lame. The only time any rankings are needed is at the end of the season.
There is no need for these rankings in November. What is the point?
More games to be played. Conference championship games to be played.
Millions of dollars for schools to be made while the student athletes suffer in poverty.

Back when Oklahoma didn't suck you were singing a completely different tune.

Was I? I've never liked pre-season rankings & don't care for this new playoff system and the top 4 rankings.

[Redman77]

What is the point?

Seriously? How about everyone & their brother talking about it & tuning in to watch the big games leading up to the final weekend. Dumb-ass.

I'm glad we agree. The debate week after week about which team should be ranked, and which team has the strongest schedule and which team did this and that, pointless.

Wow. Does it hurt your head being so stupid or are you used to it by now?

[BodyBagz]

Hell yeah theres a ton of critical games left...these rankings are just to get fans into a frenzy to spend money...and it works!

I know I have these games left to watch:

Alabama vs Miss State @ Tuscaloosa...this may very well be THE SEC game to watch this year...This is a must win for Bama just to keep the SEC West chance until the Iron Bowl...

Auburn vs Georgia...and Todd Gurley is back...Auburn has to win out to keep any hope alive...

Alabama vs Auburn...the Iron Bowl is never an easy win for either team. A 1 Second fuck-up last year sent Auburn to the National Championship game afterall...

Texas A&M vs Missouri...always a good game and has SEC East implications for Missouri

Miss State vs Ole Miss...the Egg Bowl...Miss State has to win this one as a late season loss can kill a team

SEC Championship possibilities:
Alabama vs Georgia
Alabama vs Missouri
Miss State vs Georgia
Miss State vs Missouri
Auburn vs Georgia
Auburn vs Missouri

Whats really going to fuck people all over the nation up is if in fact the SEC does put 2 teams in the final 4 play-off, and it could happen...but shit has to play out just right.

If Alabama beats Miss State this weekend, then beats Auburn to finish 11-1 on the regular season. Head to Head, lower ranking beaten higher ranking, Alabama would get the SEC West and take on the SEC East. If Alabama were to win the SEC, they are a shoe-in for a play-off spot. Now, if Miss State loses to Alabama, but goes on to finish out 11-1 also, they would still likely be scored higher than TCU, Baylor and possibly a 12-0 FSU based on SoS and Top Ranked Teams Beaten, and the CFP voters weigh those 2 things heavily as we have already seen. With a 1 loss Oregon Team jumping a no loss FSU, it is feasible that Miss State, not even playing in the SEC Title game, could be the #4 team, behind PAC 12 Champs #1 Oregon, ACC Champs #2 FSU, and 1 Loss SEC Champs #3 Alabama...

Semifinals would be
#1 Oregon vs #4 Miss State
#2 FSU vs #3 Alabama
Championship Final
Oregon vs Alabama
2015 National Champions - Alabama Crimson Tide, Game MVP - Amari Cooper (R)
(^^^ wishful thinking I know, but what the hell!... lol)

[BodyBagz]

Been a good game so far between Florida and South Carolina...

45 minutes away from the Tussle in Tuscaloosa...#1 Miss State vs #5 Alabama...Roll Tide Roll...

[demolition23]

As a casual Clege football viewer, the new playoff system has already made the season more interesting with the multitude of important games that falls out of trying to find four teams, not just two.

[BodyBagz]

As a casual Clege football viewer, the new playoff system has already made the season more interesting with the multitude of important games that falls out of trying to find four teams, not just two.

Yep, I agree. Hopefully, the days of a high pre-season ranking and a cupcake schedule leading to over-hyped teams making high bowl games is done. The Playoff Committee went against the normal grain this past Tuesday when the placed a 1 Loss Oregon ahead of a No Loss FSU...that was strictly based on Strength of Schedule and Calibre of Wins...something the computers of the BCS didnt really take into consideration..

[BodyBagz]

This Alabama vs Miss State game is living up to its billing for the time being. MSU has had a hard time of it so far on both sides of the ball...but thats what happens when you come into Tuscaloosa...or any home field for that matter...

Alabama 17 - 0 Miss State with 2:36 to go before the half...

[BodyBagz]

And #1 just fell again...to #5...The Tide came crashing in...25-20...now let the bitching begin...

[DaveB]

Bama and Georgia in the SEC Championship game. Can't see Mizzu winning out.

[BodyBagz]

Bama and Georgia in the SEC Championship game. Can't see Mizzu winning out.

Thats what I`m thinking, Bama vs Georgia. But, and you know there is always a "but", there is still a chance for Miss State to get in from the West if they win out and Bama loses against Auburn in the Iron Bowl.

I dont think "Baby Football Jesus" is hanging with Auburn this season like he did last year ...seems he`s hanging out with FSU judging by all the 3rd & 4th quarter comebacks they`ve had this year. So, I dont see Auburn taking Bama...love him or hate him, Lane Kiffin has opened Alabama`s Offense up in ways that werent available to Saban last year, and now its almost an equal pass-rush ratio team on the field as opposed to Saban`s usual rush heavy offenses of the past. No matter what, it will be a hell of a game, and again like years of past, will hold National Title repercussions for the loser and winner...

[BodyBagz]

Ok, here we go again...the College Football Playoff Top 10 game results, and my personal, "non-professional" comments..take em for what they are...

#1 Miss State came to the "Tussle in Tuscaloosa" to take on #5 Alabama...and it could not have been much worse for the Bulldogs. Alabama won, and in doing so, they should move up to atleast #4 if not #3...#2 isnt too far of a stretch either. This will depend greatly on how the CFP members weigh #4 TCU`s victory over Kansas...a come from behind win. Very likely that Miss State will only drop to #4, and could possibly "push" TCU into the #5 spot...crazy huh?

#2 Oregon is off this week..expect no movement up or down from the Ducks this week. But, could the Ducks themselves get "leapfrogged" like they did FSU...maybe by a team who took down the #1 Team at the time, and manhandled that team for better than 3 quarters???

#3 Florida State trailed unranked Miami all the way through 4 quarters...they took a 4 point lead with only 3:03 remaining in the 4th. Miami needs to own part of this loss..they had the `Noles beaten, but bad ball handling and stupid penalties didnt help them at all. FSU could be "jumped" again based on this game...it happened once before...or they could in fact jump Oregon and claim the #1 ranking...people are strange afterall.

#4 Texas Christian University (TCU) had their hands full for 4 quarters,and trailed The Jayhawks all the way into the 4th before coming from behind and taking a 4 point win, 34 - 30. It wasnt pretty by any stretch, and the small margin they had over #5 Alabama last week may have evaporated. TCU may stay put at #4, but they very well could drop to #5 to make room for Miss State at #4...

#6 Arizona State and Oregon State are still playing. Expect Arizona state to win.

#7 Baylor had the week off...expect no movement up...but possibly down depending..

#8 Ohio State Buckeyes tangled with Minnesota and came out victorious. I dont see them making any movements, up or down.

#9 Auburn Tigers went to Athens Georgia, and the Dawgs tore the Tigers up! Todd Gurley is back, and he continued to show why he was a pre-season Heisman frontrunner. His replacement for the last few games, Nick Chubb didnt lay down either. Auburn`s seasonal hopes lie at the Iron Bowl where they can keep Alabama out of the SEC Championship...they will play harder here than anywhere else, bet on it.

#10 Ole Miss Rebels were also on a bye this week. They are most likely making plans for the "Egg Bowl" and hoping to play the villian to keep Miss State from going to the Playoff...they better not lose focus of the Razorbacks though, they too can be a spoiler for the Rebels...

My predicted CFP Top 10 after todays games:

#1 Oregon
#2 FSU
#3 Alabama
#4 TCU
#5 Miss State
#6 Arizona State
#7 Ohio State
#8 Baylor
#9 Ole Miss
#10 Georgia

[FamousJames]

Anyone who doesn't have FSU as number one is just... Wrong.

26 game win streak, defending national champions, still undefeated, 4 ranked teams beaten this season, double digit come-from-behind road victories... The only thing they're not doing is beating everyone by 40 points, because they already did that last year.

Until they drop a game, they should be number 1.

[DaveB]

Anyone who doesn't have FSU as number one is just... Wrong.

26 game win streak, defending national champions, still undefeated, 4 ranked teams beaten this season, double digit come-from-behind road victories... The only thing they're not doing is beating everyone by 40 points, because they already did that last year.

Until they drop a game, they should be number 1.

I honestly can't argue that they shouldn't be ranked number one.

But I will argue this will all of the FSU fans, last year means shit. National Champions means shit. 26 game win streak means shit. Beating teams by 40 points last year means shit.

I don't blame you/them for being pissed off but I'm so sick of hearing about what they did last season. Doesn't matter. Now shut up and get over it. And it doesn't matter if they finish 1 or 4, if they remain unbeaten, they WILL be in the playoff.

[FamousJames]

The only reason that they aren't a consensus number 1 is because they were so dominant last season. ESPN hates any team that isn't SEC. And everyone hates FSU right now.

As for me, I don't care as long as FSU keeps winning... (and when they start losing again I'll still be there...) But to see them win again and again, and get dropped? Behind teams with losses? And then hear pundits ponder scenarios that would FSU even further back?

Makes no sense at all.

[DaveB]

ESPN hates any team that isn't SEC.

See my previous comments in this thread concerning that.

And everyone hates FSU right now.

Lot of it has to to with Winston and the preferential treatement that he seems to be getting.

But to see them win again and again, and get dropped? Behind teams with losses? And then hear pundits ponder scenarios that would FSU even further back?

Makes no sense at all.

I mostly agree. But you have to take into consideration the overall play of the team. The dominate number one team in the country shouldn't have to squeek out come-from-behind wins. And those "ranked" teams that they've beaten were ND, Clemson and Louisville. In other words, FSU has really only had a single "quality" win because beating Clemson and Louisville isn't much to brag about.

But when it comes down to it, they win. And because of that, they probably do deserve to be ranked number 1...maybe. But they're not playing like a dominate team...far from it.

Based on the way they're playing...quality, not quantity...Alabama, Oregon, TCU, Miss. St., and Georgia would all mop the floor with FSU.

[DaveB]

ESPN hates any team that isn't SEC.

See my previous comments in this thread concerning that.

And everyone hates FSU right now.

Lot of it has to to with Winston and the preferential treatement that he seems to be getting.

But to see them win again and again, and get dropped? Behind teams with losses? And then hear pundits ponder scenarios that would FSU even further back?

Makes no sense at all.

I mostly agree. But you have to take into consideration the overall play of the team. The dominate number one team in the country shouldn't have to squeek out come-from-behind wins. And those "ranked" teams that they've beaten were ND, Clemson and Louisville. In other words, FSU has really only had a single "quality" win because beating Clemson and Louisville isn't much to brag about.

But when it comes down to it, they win. And because of that, they probably do deserve to be ranked number 1...maybe. But they're not playing like a dominate team...far from it.

Based on the way they're playing...quality, not quantity...Alabama, Oregon, TCU, Miss. St., and Georgia would all mop the floor with FSU.

[BodyBagz]

I wont make any bones about it, and if you cant tell, I`m a Crimson Tide fan through and through...I am not a fan of FSU, or Jameis Winston. But, and heres the but, they are the ONLY undefeated team left out of the Power 5 conferences. I dont think, based on opponents and win margins that they are the #1 team in the nation...but I wouldnt have any issue with them being voted up to #1.

If you look at their schedule this year, they really have not beaten anyone of merit...They beat Clemson who was ranked at the time in OT...and now Clemson isnt ranked. They beat Notre Dame who was ranked and is now going to barely be in the Top 20 of any poll. Their only other quality win came against Louisville, who was ranked at the time, and yet again, is now nowhere to be found. They just got pushed all the way into the final 3 minutes of the game against a team that had no heat on them against FSU...and almost lost that game as well had it not been for a piss poor pass that was intercepted.

You cant ignore this season. FSU has benefited from a deserved pre-season high ranking, just as other teams have done in the past. The difference is, FSU does not have a schedule tough enough to continue to merit that high ranking when it is barely beating unranked teams by 4 points. Hate all you want, but it you are truthful, you know as well as I and many others do, that FSU should choose to go to the SEC, Big 12 or Big 10, they would at best be an 9-3 or 8-4 team. The SEC would chew them up in conference play!

Now, before you cry foul and lambast my Bama teams "cupcake" schedule, lets go ahead and take a look at it...we will look at OOC play first..

West Virginia - won 33-23
Florida Atlantic - won 41-0
Southern Miss - won 52-12
Western Carolina - will win most likely

Now, thats 3 teams in Div II and 1 Div I, Big 12 team...cakewalks for the most part when compared to the SEC. But, what if we compare them to say...ACC schools...seems more appropo. I can see Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss and Western Carolina all lining up and bashing helmets equally with Boston College, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest and Pittsburgh...and even Syracuse and Clemson for that matter.

Now, how about Conference play for Alabama:
Florida - won 42-21
Ole Miss - lost 23-17 - both ranked when game was played
Arkansas - won 14-13
Texas A&M - won 59-0 - both ranked when game was played
Tennessee - won 34-20
LSU - won (OT) 20-13 - both ranked when game was played
Miss State - won 25-20 - both ranked when game was played
Auburn - likely will win this one as well

Now, look at that SEC schedule and name me any 4 teams you honestly think FSU could come in with their current roster and beat, yearly. I`ll wait. The best SEC Schedule FSU could hope for on any given year would be the following:
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Kentucky

They would hate to have to run the SEC West gauntlet year in and year out. Thats precisely why FSU took the smart way out and elected to go to to the Atlantic Coast Conference...they become the shark in a pool of tuna instead of just being another shark in a pool of bigger sharks.

I stand by my CFP prediction from earlier...simply because there are some jack-asses on the committee...
#1 Oregon
#2 FSU
#3 Alabama
#4 TCU
#5 Miss State
#6 Arizona State
#7 Ohio State
#8 Baylor
#9 Ole Miss
#10 Georgia

[DaveB]

Looks like Gurley's college career is over. Torn ACL in his left leg. The good thing is that with Chub, Georgia hasn't lost a step.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -left-knee

[DaveB]

And FamousJames can rejoice because FSU is number 1.

[BodyBagz]

Looks like Gurley's college career is over. Torn ACL in his left leg. The good thing is that with Chub, Georgia hasn't lost a step.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -left-knee

That sucks for Gurley only in the sense it will make his draft marquee even less than it was going to be. I hated him being suspended..because of a stupid decision, but i also hoped he would be able to come back and finish strong. Judging by what he did in the Auburn game, he hadnt lost anything skill wise during the off time, so expectations were great. This ACL injury really sucks for him and for Georgia as a whole.

And Famous Jameis can rejoice because FSU is number 1.

It wa a no brainer really. Coaches and AP polls will not knock a 10-0 defending champion from the #1 for any 1 loss team...now the CFP Committee on the other hand...I think they just might...and it will be Oregon again doing the jumping...

[bane]

And FamousJames can rejoice because FSU is number 1.

Man, FSU is the luckiest team in NCAA. I wanted Miami to win that game so bad. The refs screwed them on that non fumble call late. That was a fumble. Should have been 1st and 10 Miami and probably would have given them the W. How many escapes can one team pull off in a season?

[Machado]

And FamousJames can rejoice because FSU is number 1.

Man, FSU is the luckiest team in NCAA. I wanted Miami to win that game so bad. The refs screwed them on that non fumble call late. That was a fumble. Should have been 1st and 10 Miami and probably would have given them the W. How many escapes can one team pull off in a season?

Yes this team is very, very fortunate. Then again who has this team played?
They strength of schedule is weak.
In the next 2 games they are not playing a team ranked in the top 25.
Justice would be seeing an undefeated team locked out of the NCAA playoffs.