NFL 2010 Thread

poizond13 · Post by **poizond13** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:39 am

Crazy Levi wrote:
Come on boy. You only announced your Colts "fandom" after they went 13-0 last year, boy. We never heard a fucking Colts peep out of you before that, boy.

That's the definition of a bandwagon fan, boy.

Just because you aren't jumping on the Bearswagon doesn't absolve you of that, boy.

Boy.

I never discussed sports, period, on this site before last year. So, by your logic, I was never a fan of football or any sport before last year. We both know that's laughable. And if you want to continue with that logic, I wonder how many aspects of your life you don't discuss on Sludge? Do all of those aspects not exist because you don't discuss them here? If you honestly believe that, fuck off. Your logic makes no sense, boy. If you want to continue with line of thinking, I'll just chalk it up to you being a troll and move on.

eddie lee roth · Post by **eddie lee roth** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:45 am

O BOY

WTF · Post by **WTF** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:00 am

johnk5150 wrote:Peter King has the Bears behind the Patriots in his rankings this week.

Crazy Levi · Post by **Crazy Levi** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:06 am

poizond13 wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:
Come on boy. You only announced your Colts "fandom" after they went 13-0 last year, boy. We never heard a fucking Colts peep out of you before that, boy.

That's the definition of a bandwagon fan, boy.

Just because you aren't jumping on the Bearswagon doesn't absolve you of that, boy.

Boy.
I never discussed sports, period, on this site before last year. So, by your logic, I was never a fan of football or any sport before last year. We both know that's laughable. And if you want to continue with that logic,

I don't want to continue with that logic, as it's retarded.

You chose the moment that the Colts were at their absolute peak - 13-0 and Super Bowl favorites - to come in here and start with your stupid Colts bullshit. If you want to continue with that logic, you are clearly a bandwagoner.

The hilarious thing is the second you jumped on the bandwagon, the wheels started to come off. Now you are stuck on the bandwagon of an aging group that will never achieve the successess they once enjoyed before you started sucking their dicks.

Kinda like your Poison obsession.

SkyDog112046 · Post by **SkyDog112046** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:57 pm

poizond13 wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:
Come on boy. You only announced your Colts "fandom" after they went 13-0 last year, boy. We never heard a fucking Colts peep out of you before that, boy.

That's the definition of a bandwagon fan, boy.

Just because you aren't jumping on the Bearswagon doesn't absolve you of that, boy.

Boy.
I never discussed sports, period, on this site before last year. So, by your logic, I was never a fan of football or any sport before last year. We both know that's laughable. And if you want to continue with that logic, I wonder how many aspects of your life you don't discuss on Sludge? Do all of those aspects not exist because you don't discuss them here? If you honestly believe that, fuck off. Your logic makes no sense, boy. If you want to continue with line of thinking, I'll just chalk it up to you being a troll and move on.

So in other words, Levi nailed it. If you didn't just jump on the Colts' bandwagon last November like everyone knows you did you would have posted when you started following "your" team the same way everyone else did. People with nothing to hide answer a question with a direct answer instead of side-stepping it.

johnk5150 · Post by **johnk5150** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:37 pm

Cornelison will perform the anthem again this week.

poizond13 · Post by **poizond13** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:01 pm

SkyDog112046 wrote:
poizond13 wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:
Come on boy. You only announced your Colts "fandom" after they went 13-0 last year, boy. We never heard a fucking Colts peep out of you before that, boy.

That's the definition of a bandwagon fan, boy.

Just because you aren't jumping on the Bearswagon doesn't absolve you of that, boy.

Boy.
I never discussed sports, period, on this site before last year. So, by your logic, I was never a fan of football or any sport before last year. We both know that's laughable. And if you want to continue with that logic, I wonder how many aspects of your life you don't discuss on Sludge? Do all of those aspects not exist because you don't discuss them here? If you honestly believe that, fuck off. Your logic makes no sense, boy. If you want to continue with line of thinking, I'll just chalk it up to you being a troll and move on.
So in other words, Levi nailed it. If you didn't just jump on the Colts' bandwagon last November like everyone knows you did you would have posted when you started following "your" team the same way everyone else did. People with nothing to hide answer a question with a direct answer instead of side-stepping it.

Um, sorry, but no one asked me when I started following the Colts. However, I will HAPPILY volunteer that information, as I have in the past. I became a Colts fan in 1995 during their unlikely run to the AFC Championship game that year. We were a wild card that year and nobody expected us to do anything. After two unlikely wins we went to Pittsburgh for a chance to play in the Super Bowl. The excitement and energy of that team really caught on with me and I became a fan. Jim Harbaugh was a great player to watch. That AFC Championship game was, to this day, one of the best games I've seen. I still remember jumping for joy after it looked like that last hail mary from Harbaugh was completed for a winning TD, only to realize seconds later that the ball had rolled off Aaron Bailey's body. That was a tough loss to take, but from that moment on I have been a die hard Colts fan, and always will be.

Now you will probably doubt this just like any troll would, and that is fine. Trolls will be trolls.

Luminiferous · Post by **Luminiferous** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:08 pm

Funny how the whole sports board seems to be filled with people who've been posting here for years...and they're all trolls...

The boards didn't become seriously about sports until Greg started posting last year..

NeonKnite · Post by **NeonKnite** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:24 pm

LitaJett · Post by **LitaJett** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:40 pm

NeonKnite wrote:

I do believe the Rooneys are crooked, the Steelers have no class, they bought their last two Super Bowls with bribes. Steeler fans are the biggest assclowns of professional sports.

NeonKnite · Post by **NeonKnite** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:34 am

LitaJett wrote:
NeonKnite wrote:
I do believe the Rooneys are crooked, the Steelers have no class, they bought their last two Super Bowls with bribes. Steeler fans are the biggest assclowns of professional sports.

Waaaah. Ain't won nothing ever, huh?

Now go cry yourself to sleep.

bane · Post by **bane** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:25 am

LitaJett wrote:
NeonKnite wrote:
I do believe the Rooneys are crooked, the Steelers have no class, they bought their last two Super Bowls with bribes. Steeler fans are the biggest assclowns of professional sports.

I'm no Steelers fan, but that's one of the better organizations in the league.

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:48 am

bane wrote:
LitaJett wrote:
NeonKnite wrote:
I do believe the Rooneys are crooked, the Steelers have no class, they bought their last two Super Bowls with bribes. Steeler fans are the biggest assclowns of professional sports.
I'm no Steelers fan, but that's one of the better organizations in the league.

And they sure know how to pick a coach.

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:08 am

Here you go p13:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=63&f=1554&t=7069678

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:42 am

Unconfirmed reports are that Brady suffered a fractured foot sometime before the game against the Jets.
Also unconfirmed is that Rex Ryan wanted video proof.
No excuses for the loss, but if true it might explain why he didn't play well.

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:56 am

He played fine. He's like every other nfl qb, you hit him and he's not as good as when he's hanging out in the pocket untouched.
Belliche at should put TB's injuries on the injury report if they're going to use it as an excuse.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 am

NeverSurrender wrote:He played fine. He's like every other nfl qb, you hit him and he's not as good as when he's hanging out in the pocket untouched.
Belliche at should put TB's injuries on the injury report if they're going to use it as an excuse.

What part of it isn't an excuse for the loss did you miss?

MurrayFiend · Post by **MurrayFiend** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:01 am

No offense, but that sounds awfully P13-ish. "Not making any excuses, but here's an excuse." That's totally one of his lines.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:03 am

Show me where I said it's an excuse.
It's an unconfirmed report and this is an NFL thread where, you know, we talk about football.

MurrayFiend · Post by **MurrayFiend** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:06 am

Well, it's fascinating that an unconfirmed injury might explain why on Sunday, Brady failed just as hard as he did in his previous two playoff starts.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:13 am

Notice this difference:
It might explain why he didn't play well.

This is why the Patriots lost.

One was said, one wasn't.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:15 am

MurrayFiend wrote:Well, it's fascinating that an unconfirmed injury might explain why on Sunday, Brady failed just as hard as he did in his previous two playoff starts.

So, injuries never affect a players performance?

MurrayFiend · Post by **MurrayFiend** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:16 am

I was being facetious; don't particularly care either way. You're a poor arguer and not even worth me faking it for my own amusement.

Anyway, LitaJett's hate-on for the Steelers is GypsyDog-ish. What's your stance on the Holocaust, Lita?

(Still saying "Go Packers" here)

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:18 am

MurrayFiend wrote:

I was being facetious; don't particularly care either way. You're a poor arguer and not even worth me faking it for my own amusement.

Hurt me.

bane · Post by **bane** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:43 am

"a reason why he didn't play well" = an excuse. Putting the words "not an excuse" in front of an excuse doesn't make it any less of an excuse.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:50 am

bane wrote:"a reason why he didn't play well" = an excuse. Putting the words "not an excuse" in front of an excuse doesn't make it any less of an excuse.

"might be a reason" = not an excuse. Notice "MIGHT"
If it turns out the injury is legit and it DID affect his play = excuse to why he played bad.
If the article started off like this:
"The reason the Patriots lost to the Jets is because Brady was injured"
THAT would be an excuse.
Christ, post something pertaining to football = bad thing in a football thread.

bane · Post by **bane** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:55 am

Nobody said it was a bad thing. Just don't be pissed when you get called out for making an excuse, excuse me, "what might be an excuse", when you're saying you aren't making excuses. If there's an award for the most uses of the word "excuse" in one post, I think I just won it.

Facedown · Post by **Facedown** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:59 am

bane wrote:Nobody said it was a bad thing. Just don't be pissed when you get called out for making an excuse, excuse me, "what might be an excuse", when you're saying you aren't making excuses. If there's an award for the most uses of the word "excuse" in one post, I think I just won it.

I said it was an unconfirmed report. The thing is, I'm NOT making an excuse.
I just said what was in the article.
Might be why he PLAYED BAD does not equal Patriots would have won if he wasn't (unconfirmed) injured.

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:22 am

Seems like every time they lose big game, they have an excuses. Unfortunately for their fans and espn, they're just an nfl team like the other 31 teams. They lose too. I don't even think Brady played that bad.

johnk5150 · Post by **johnk5150** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:59 am

History...

Halas helped save Packers

Respect – and animosity — define this storied rivalry
David Haugh

In the Wake of the News

8:01 p.m. CST, January 18, 2011

More than animosity, respect defines the NFL's oldest and best rivalry.

To grasp this fully, you have to go back to one day in 1956 when it wasn't Bears legend George Halas coaching against the Packers. It was Halas coaxing the people of Green Bay on behalf of the home team considered his nemesis.

With the Packers facing the threat of NFL relocation unless city residents approved a new football stadium, Halas boldly sought to keep his field enemies closer to Chicago. Everybody in Wisconsin knew Halas despised the Packers for two Sundays every football season.

But less publicized was the honorable way Halas treated the Packers organization the other 363 days of the year, best illustrated when the Bears founder showed up to push public funding for what is now Lambeau Field.

"While the NFL and other people were telling Green Bay what needed to be done, George Halas went up there and made an impassioned plea about how important the Packers were to the community,'' incoming Bears chairman George McCaskey said.

At that rally in '56, heavily promoted on local radio, Halas preached to locals used to booing his Bears. When voters responded April 3, 1956, by passing the stadium referendum to issue bonds that green-lighted more pro football in Green Bay, Halas received a share of the credit.

McCaskey, named for his famous grandfather, chuckled when recalling the irony of a story that still makes him proud.

"I'm biased, of course, but in my view that example gives you some idea of the measure of the man,'' McCaskey said.

It also reveals the true spirit behind the Bears-Packers series that peaks Sunday at Soldier Field when the two teams meet for the 182nd time in the NFC Championship game.

Sure, it can get nasty when the Bears and Packers play.

Halas and Curly Lambeau, the Packers vice president and head coach from 1919-49, set the tone for generations to follow by regularly engaging in intense gamesmanship that nearly crossed the line of sportsmanship. Dozens of players over the years have recalled the way Halas' demeanor would transform from professional to possessed after kickoff, when he was known to heckle Packers tackled near the Bears' sideline.

"I always kind of felt Halas was a friend of the Packers but when it came down to game day, I know he screamed like heck at them,'' said Art Daley, 94, a former sportswriter for the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "It wasn't dirty. But, boy, it was intense.''

We've also seen enough replays of cheap shots in the post-Halas Era to have a continuous loop running in our memories. The bitterness between Mike Ditka and Forrest Gregg helped produce regrettable incidents such as Charles Martin slamming Jim McMahon in 1986 and Ken Stills clocking Walter Payton out of bounds in 1985. Surely nails-for-breakfast linebackers Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke, among others, had their outbursts too. It happens.

But, generally speaking, since the first time these two franchises played almost 90 years ago, most of the vitriol exchanged comes from fans more than players and coaches. These days most of the trash-talking comes from talk-radio callers or tired comparisons of the cities. No, the modern-day Bears-Packers rivalry isn't as edgy as Steelers-Ravens or as petty as Jets-Patriots — and thank goodness.

Lovie Smith didn't sound very convincing Monday when he claimed, "We don't like each other.'' Did he? About the same time Smith was paying lip service to manufactured hostility, Packers coach Mike McCarthy sounded sincere calling his Bears counterpart a fine coach and gentleman. Heck, Sunday's opposing quarterbacks, Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers, regularly exchange texts and things are so chummy this week you imagine one of them ending a message "XOXO.''

Documented and anecdotal history suggests, beneath the game-day edginess, Halas occasionally showed a soft spot for the Packers going back to the NFL's infancy. Read "Papa Bear,'' by author Jeff Davis and it's clear Halas always recognized how both teams needed each other to grow their respective franchises — and the league.

As noted in the Packers media guide, it was Halas who was instrumental in persuading league partners in 1922 to allow Green Bay and Lambeau back in the fold after the Packers were banned for using college players illegally. Though it's interesting to note that it was Halas who originally discovered the Packers used the players and the Bears signed one of them, Hunk Anderson, after the hubbub.

Still, a mutual respect developed and the Packers returned the favor during the Great Depression when hard financial times left Halas scrounging for money to meet payroll expenses. "He had to borrow money from his mother and his mother-in-law and to me it speaks to his vision that he was able to keep things going,'' McCaskey said.

Halas also accepted a $1,500 loan from the Packers in 1932, according to Green Bay Press-Gazette archives. Some football historians believe it was that gesture by the Packers that drove Halas to get so involved in '56 when the NFL deemed old City Stadium and its 24,000-seat capacity too small.

But perhaps Halas' biggest contribution to his football neighbor 185 miles to the north went beyond supporting stadium projects that kept afloat teams in small markets such as Green Bay. When the Packers needed to hire a coach at the end of the 1958 season, team president Dominic Olejniczak sought Halas' opinion.

"Vince Lombardi's your man,'' Halas told Olejniczak.

Indeed he was. No wonder when Halas died in 1983, Olejniczak was quoted in newspapers as saying, "The Packers could not have had a better friend than George Halas.''

And this about the only coach to ever beat Lombardi five times.

"The story I heard was George Halas also was the only coach Vince Lombardi addressed by the title, 'Coach,' '' McCaskey said. "I think that's the measure of the type of respect they had for each other.''

It's also another measure of what makes this respectful rivalry unique.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/fo ... 548.column

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