Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[killeverything]

Although I watched many of his starts and he looked brutal as all hell, I believe 2013 was a blip for Johnson. Assuming health, I don't see any reason he won't succeed in SD.

Me either, I think a lot of teams that need to shore up the back end of their rotation ( which is like all of them minus Detroit ) are going to think "ffuucckk why didn't we take a chance on that dude?"

[Machado]

Why is Selig given a free pass? Put that crook on the stand
and let him talk his way out of the situation.



Alex Rodriguez stormed out of his own grievance hearing Wednesday after arbitrator Fredric Horowitz ruled that baseball commissioner Bud Selig did not have to testify before the embattled slugger's attorneys.

"This is ridiculous," Rodriguez is said to have shouted after Horowitz issued his ruling shortly before noon at MLB's offices on Park Ave.

Rodriguez then pointed his finger at Manfred, who directed baseball's investigation into the Biogenesis clinic suspected of being a source of supply of illegal PEDs to ballplayers, and said "You know you're full of s---!"

[killeverything]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when NY gets stuck with that contract.

There's a lot more years on that fucker I see Arod either on the DL or batting at the Mendoza line in the future.

[Machado]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when NY gets stuck with that contract.

There's a lot more years on that fucker I see Arod either on the DL or batting at the Mendoza line in the future.

There is no arguing the contact is the worst in MLB, maybe in all of sports.

That being said, ARod deserves the opportunity to face his #1 accuser(Bud Selig) and his lawyers should be given the right to cross examine Bud.

[killeverything]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when NY gets stuck with that contract.

There's a lot more years on that fucker I see Arod either on the DL or batting at the Mendoza line in the future.

There is no arguing the contact is the worst in MLB, maybe in all of sports.

That being said, ARod deserves the opportunity to face his #1 accuser(Bud Selig) and his lawyers should be given the right to cross examine Bud.

Why cross examine? He's guilty as fuck mlb has proof. Baseball agreed to his punishment and should have to stick to it. If they don't like how the rules are set up they need to change them. I will give Selig credit on one thing though, mlb has the strictest testing in sports now. They rival the Olympics.

[Machado]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when NY gets stuck with that contract.

There's a lot more years on that fucker I see Arod either on the DL or batting at the Mendoza line in the future.

There is no arguing the contact is the worst in MLB, maybe in all of sports.

That being said, ARod deserves the opportunity to face his #1 accuser(Bud Selig) and his lawyers should be given the right to cross examine Bud.

Why cross examine? He's guilty as fuck mlb has proof. Baseball agreed to his punishment and should have to stick to it. If they don't like how the rules are set up they need to change them. I will give Selig credit on one thing though, mlb has the strictest testing in sports now. They rival the Olympics.

Where is the proof?
When did MLB release the proof they supposedly have against ARod???

[killeverything]

He was buying PEDs, tried to buy back/and or destroy the evidence of him purchasing/taking said PEDs. This trial isn't "if" Arod is guilty it's if he deserves a 200 game suspension. The punishment wasn't in place when Arod admitted the first time. Plus with his attempts to destroy evidence Selig want's his punishment higher.

See the players caught in this biogenisis scandal have already been suspended for 50 games. So obviously this ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Cruz, Peralta, Braun, joke prospect Montero ( another Yankee ). What don't you grasp about this situation?

[killeverything]

The breaking rumors are Detroit plans to trade Prince Fielder to Texas for Ian Kinsler. Prince has a limited no trade clause so I'm unsure if Texas is on his list. I know that Jurickson Profar is their top prospect, but I wouldn't give up Kinsler personally.

Texas basically muscled Nolan out as the president ( dumb, dumb move run out the guy that made your franchise successful ) and I wonder how he would feel about this potential trade. Prince has like 8 more years on that contract. I'm thinking this could be a major mistake on Tx. part.

[Facedown]

Texas also gets 30mil.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

[quote="MachadoThere is no arguing the contact is the worst in MLB, maybe in all of sports.

That being said, ARod deserves the opportunity to face his #1 accuser(Bud Selig) and his lawyers should be given the right to cross examine Bud.

Why cross examine? He's guilty as fuck mlb has proof. Baseball agreed to his punishment and should have to stick to it. If they don't like how the rules are set up they need to change them. I will give Selig credit on one thing though, mlb has the strictest testing in sports now. They rival the Olympics.

Where is the proof?
When did MLB release the proof they supposedly have against ARod???[/quote]

Where is the proof that David Ortiz used PEDs as you so slanderously accused him of a few pages back?

[johnk5150]

A Rod - "Bud Selig hates my guts"

Tommy Lee Jones in the Fugitive - "I don't care"

[johnk5150]

The breaking rumors are Detroit plans to trade Prince Fielder to Texas for Ian Kinsler. Prince has a limited no trade clause so I'm unsure if Texas is on his list. I know that Jurickson Profar is their top prospect, but I wouldn't give up Kinsler personally.

Texas basically muscled Nolan out as the president ( dumb, dumb move run out the guy that made your franchise successful ) and I wonder how he would feel about this potential trade. Prince has like 8 more years on that contract. I'm thinking this could be a major mistake on Tx. part.

And it's pretty smart on Detroit. Fielder's numbers dropped materially last year. Cabrera's went up. I bet they plan on moving Miggy to first base to preserve his body going forward. Any offense they're losing they're going to make up easily defensively with this move.

[Machado]

[quote="MachadoThere is no arguing the contact is the worst in MLB, maybe in all of sports.

That being said, ARod deserves the opportunity to face his #1 accuser(Bud Selig) and his lawyers should be given the right to cross examine Bud.

Why cross examine? He's guilty as fuck mlb has proof. Baseball agreed to his punishment and should have to stick to it. If they don't like how the rules are set up they need to change them. I will give Selig credit on one thing though, mlb has the strictest testing in sports now. They rival the Olympics.

Where is the proof?
When did MLB release the proof they supposedly have against ARod???

Where is the proof that David Ortiz used PEDs as you so slanderously accused him of a few pages back?[/quote]

In 2003 Ortiz tested positive during a MLB survey test. Ortiz was one of seven players that are known to have failed that test.
Here are the other names:
Manny Ramirez Alex Rodriguez, Larry Bigbie, Jason Grimsley, David Segui and Sammy Sosa.
So yes, Ortiz should be lumped in with anybody else that failed that particular test or subsequent test.
10 years ago is a long time and people forget, the media forgets, but he still failed a survey test=PED user!!!

[killeverything]

Where is the proof that David Ortiz used PEDs as you so slanderously accused him of a few pages back?

In 2003 Ortiz tested positive during a MLB survey test. Ortiz was one of seven players that are known to have failed that test.
Here are the other names:
Manny Ramirez Alex Rodriguez, Larry Bigbie, Jason Grimsley, David Segui and Sammy Sosa.
So yes, Ortiz should be lumped in with anybody else that failed that particular test or subsequent test.
10 years ago is a long time and people forget, the media forgets, but he still failed a survey test=PED user!!!

That's not proof. That test had players on it that set it off for vitamin supplements ( ie. Gio Gonzalez Biogenisis ). Ortiz has stated time and time again what it was. Funny how with the testing levels that they are now his name hasn't shown up since except from angry Yankees fans.

Mlb is going to release all the evidence they have on Arod on Friday, not just the stuff that's been leaked. This will be fun for Machado, because they have him failing tests in 2007 ( and I believe 2009 ), not to mention the medical evidence from biogenisis. Or is Arod going to go the Clemens route, where his defense say's "but Conte's not a nice guy."?

This is going to be funny watching Machado try to rationalize what he's hearing.

Runnnnn Forrreeesssttttt run!

[killeverything]

The breaking rumors are Detroit plans to trade Prince Fielder to Texas for Ian Kinsler. Prince has a limited no trade clause so I'm unsure if Texas is on his list. I know that Jurickson Profar is their top prospect, but I wouldn't give up Kinsler personally.

Texas basically muscled Nolan out as the president ( dumb, dumb move run out the guy that made your franchise successful ) and I wonder how he would feel about this potential trade. Prince has like 8 more years on that contract. I'm thinking this could be a major mistake on Tx. part.

And it's pretty smart on Detroit. Fielder's numbers dropped materially last year. Cabrera's went up. I bet they plan on moving Miggy to first base to preserve his body going forward. Any offense they're losing they're going to make up easily defensively with this move.

I see this move as complete brilliance from Detroit. They can try to keep Scherzer now, move Cabrera back to first, shore up the IF defense with Iglesias, get rid of Fielder ( whom after his 2nd postseason pissed off the fan base being lackadaisical ) and according to his spray charts is losing opposite field power ( think Adrian Gonzalez ).

Don't get me wrong Fielder's bat in Texas is going be massive. Arlington is a hitter's paradise so Prince should mash with the best of them for at least two more years....not seven.

Analysts think that the result of the trade is going to see Choo end up in Detroit's outfield now too. If that's the case then this is brilliant for the Tigers. Dombrowski never ceases to amaze me with his trade work. I think over the long hall Texas is going to regret it.

Also Jason Vargas signs 4/32 with the Royals.

[Machado]

Where is the proof that David Ortiz used PEDs as you so slanderously accused him of a few pages back?

In 2003 Ortiz tested positive during a MLB survey test. Ortiz was one of seven players that are known to have failed that test.
Here are the other names:
Manny Ramirez Alex Rodriguez, Larry Bigbie, Jason Grimsley, David Segui and Sammy Sosa.
So yes, Ortiz should be lumped in with anybody else that failed that particular test or subsequent test.
10 years ago is a long time and people forget, the media forgets, but he still failed a survey test=PED user!!!

That's not proof. That test had players on it that set it off for vitamin supplements ( ie. Gio Gonzalez Biogenisis ). Ortiz has stated time and time again what it was. Funny how with the testing levels that they are now his name hasn't shown up since except from angry Yankees fans.

Mlb is going to release all the evidence they have on Arod on Friday, not just the stuff that's been leaked. This will be fun for Machado, because they have him failing tests in 2007 ( and I believe 2009 ), not to mention the medical evidence from biogenisis. Or is Arod going to go the Clemens route, where his defense say's "but Conte's not a nice guy."?

This is going to be funny watching Machado try to rationalize what he's hearing.

Runnnnn Forrreeesssttttt run!

I hope MLB finally releases "ALL" the evidence they have claimed to have since this investigation began all those months ago.

Regarding Ortiz, how is his search for why he even failed that test going so far? I remember he vowed to find out what actually happened. Guess that is low priority.

[killeverything]

Happy birthday Ken Griffey Jr.

[killeverything]

St. Louis Cardinals trade 2011 MVP David Freese to LAAAA for Pete Bourjos.

The Cards are gonna look different next year Chris Carpenter retired and Freese is gone.

Arod did good in his appeal I'm pretty sure a suspension will still come down, but the MFY ain't getting out of that albatross contract.

[Machado]

Where is the proof that David Ortiz used PEDs as you so slanderously accused him of a few pages back?

In 2003 Ortiz tested positive during a MLB survey test. Ortiz was one of seven players that are known to have failed that test.
Here are the other names:
Manny Ramirez Alex Rodriguez, Larry Bigbie, Jason Grimsley, David Segui and Sammy Sosa.
So yes, Ortiz should be lumped in with anybody else that failed that particular test or subsequent test.
10 years ago is a long time and people forget, the media forgets, but he still failed a survey test=PED user!!!

That's not proof. That test had players on it that set it off for vitamin supplements ( ie. Gio Gonzalez Biogenisis ). Ortiz has stated time and time again what it was. Funny how with the testing levels that they are now his name hasn't shown up since except from angry Yankees fans.

Mlb is going to release all the evidence they have on Arod on Friday, not just the stuff that's been leaked. This will be fun for Machado, because they have him failing tests in 2007 ( and I believe 2009 ), not to mention the medical evidence from biogenisis. Or is Arod going to go the Clemens route, where his defense say's "but Conte's not a nice guy."?

This is going to be funny watching Machado try to rationalize what he's hearing.

Runnnnn Forrreeesssttttt run!

Where is that evidence that was supposed to be released today by MLB?

[killeverything]

Where is that evidence that was supposed to be released today by MLB?

Ask them. This will end up going to a higher court.



Chicago Cubs hire 2003 Batting Champion Bill Mueller as hitting coach.

Fun fact. On July 3, 2003 Bill Mueller hit two back to back grandslams against Texas. First right handed then left handed. It was the only time the feat has been done in history.

[killeverything]

Buy! Buy everyone!

The MFY and Brian McCann close to 5/85 deal.



Who be da supa agent Jay Z and Robinson Cano were spotted in a Detroit airport yo. After shedding Fielder's contract it's hard to believe the Tigers would be in on Cano's ridiculous demands especially with Cabrera and Scherzer's extensions coming up.

That lineup with Cano added would be horrifying. Cabrera, Cano, Peralta, Martinez, Kinsler ( assuming he has a bounce back season offensively ).

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Regarding Ortiz, how is his search for why he even failed that test going so far? I remember he vowed to find out what actually happened. Guess that is low priority.

It's only a priority for butthurt, retarded ESL Yankee fans.

[tin00can]

St. Louis Cardinals trade 2011 MVP David Freese to LAAAA for Pete Bourjos.

The Cards are gonna look different next year Chris Carpenter retired and Freese is gone.

Arod did good in his appeal I'm pretty sure a suspension will still come down, but the MFY ain't getting out of that albatross contract.

Angels got gypped again. Freese is gonna continue to break down and his defense will get worse. Horrible trade.

Oh well, at least we signed (overpaid for) Joe Smith for three years. that should help the bullpen.

[killeverything]

Cardinals and Jhonny Peralta agree to 4/52 deal.

[MurrayFiend]

The Cardinals are all about doing things the right way, you know? So they should mandate that he change his name to 'Johnny'.

[killeverything]

Cano negotiations being handled poorly

Other than Alex Rodriguez’s legal issues, has anything been handled worse this offseason than Robinson Cano’s contract negotiations?The switch in agents from Scott Boras to Jay-Z hasn’t worked out so well. Oh, Cano will make a good amount of money before all is said and done, and he’ll end up saying he got exactly what he wanted. But not really. The $310 million figure that was thrown out there has done Cano a world of harm. This whole notion of marketing Cano hasn’t taken off. The Yankees didn’t buy it and the Mets, who also met with Jay-Z, didn’t buy it, either.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/2 ... mments=all

Who here is surprised that Jay-Z ain't doin' so well as a sports agent?

Cash money yo.

[killeverything]

LA Dodgers and Dan Haren agree to a 1/10 deal.

Could be huge, could be meaningless. I think the one year deal that is high reward/low risk is Josh Johnson. That signing especially in a pitcher's park could be huge for San Diego.

[Machado]

Cardinals and Jhonny Peralta agree to 4/52 deal.

Brad Ziegler is not happy about the Peralta contract:

It pays to cheat...Thanks, owners, for encouraging PED use
“@JimBowdenESPNxm: Peralta -

[killeverything]

Cardinals and Jhonny Peralta agree to 4/52 deal.

Brad Ziegler is not happy about the Peralta contract:

It pays to cheat...Thanks, owners, for encouraging PED use
“@JimBowdenESPNxm: Peralta -

Yup. Where's the motive to not? "You mean to tell me you'll give me 50 million dollars if I use this shit, and if I get caught I'm only suspended 50 games and you still have to pay me a percentage of the 50 million dollars?"

[Machado]

Cardinals and Jhonny Peralta agree to 4/52 deal.

The St. Louis Cardinals General manager John Mozeliak said Monday that Peralta had admitted wrongdoing and served his penalty and that the Cardinals weren't about to appoint themselves morality "police." Mozeliak said the club was confident that this was an isolated circumstance.

"Character and makeup are something we weigh into our decision-making," Mozeliak said. "In his case, he admitted what he did, he took responsibility for it.

"I feel like he has paid for his mistakes, and obviously if he were to make another one, then it would be a huge disappointment.

Mozeliak agreed with critics that penalties aren't strict enough.

"You do need a deterrent, and right now 50 games does not seem to be necessarily stopping it," Mozeliak said.

But he also believed attitudes have changed.

"I think Major League Baseball has done a great job trying to clean up this game, and I feel like they've taken great steps," he said.