Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[WOLF]

Oh yes...that. Yeah, David Samson and Loria fucked the taxpayers hard.

Par for the course for Loria and his Mini-Me. What else would you expect from guys who made off in the dead if night with the Expos' office equipment, scouting databases, and staff to take over the Miami Expos/Marlins? Everywhere they have gone they've left a mess for partners, fans, and taxpayers.

I never got deep into the Expos move but the more I read about Loria and the Marlins the more disgusting it becomes. It dampens my support for the team.

I remember when the Expos moved, it reminds me the day Modell extracted the Browns from Cleveland. I moved to Cleveland shortly after the Browns were stolen and the city was dead, it sucked the life right out of people it was so bizarre. Visiting the empty Stadium was "ERIE"

Where's home land security during hostel take overs. I'm guessing owners table meetings would be a laugh.

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Other then pulling up stats I finally watched my first full game the other day and didn't recognize the Dodgers. Nice to see a lot of home grown on the field and still winning. Not sure how they're doing it with that line up, maybe without Puigy and Crawfish the dugout is playing better music.

LF Van Slyke
CF Joc Pederson
RF Andre Ethier

3B Justin Turner
SS Jimmy Rollins
2B Howie Kendrick
1B Adrian Gonzalez
C A.J. Ellis
P Mike Bolsinger

Dodgers 2 Padres 0 - Bolsinger looked great.

ESPN Power Rankings

LAD 6th
SF 7th
SD 17th

My point and question to all this is, before the season the Padres loaded up, what happened in San Diego? Still a lot of games to be played.

The only difference between the Browns and Expos is that MLB, Bud Selig to be precise, presided over the whole debacle.

Selig brokered a deal where John Henry would acquire the Red Sox, Loria would acquire Henry's Marlins, and the Expos would be taken over by MLB. Somehow Loria got granted the right to take everything that belonged to the Expos (unknown to the Expos' minority partners).

MLB then ran the Expos into the ground. Alienated local fans by cancelling local radio deals, so the team had ZERO media exposure, scheduling "home games" in Puerto Rico vs teams, and at times of year, where the Expos would have drawn relatively well, doing everything possible to thwart the Expos' wild card run...

Now of course, because Tampa Bay is fledgling, and MLB needs a card to play as a threat, Montreal is a great baseball city again all of a sudden..

[Machado]

Orioles LHP Brian Matsuz suspended 8 games for "substance" on arm.

The other night on ESPN, Dallas Braden admitted he "cheated" on the mound by applying sunscreen and rosin to his arm & applying pine tar to his glove. Then ESPN showed slo motion footage of him applying the gunk to his hands and baseball.
My point is, let's just make this legal already. Allow the pitcher to have a very good grip on the ball before pitching. Instead of a useless rosin bag behind the mound, MLB needs to create another substance for pitchers to use as needed.
I understand why these 2 pitchers were suspended. At the same time about 90% of the pitchers in the league practice his habit and for good reason. For a better grip. Does that better grip give the pitcher a competitive advantage? I don't think so.

[killeverything]

Orioles LHP Brian Matsuz suspended 8 games for "substance" on arm.

The other night on ESPN, Dallas Braden admitted he "cheated" on the mound by applying sunscreen and rosin to his arm & applying pine tar to his glove. Then ESPN showed slo motion footage of him applying the gunk to his hands and baseball.
My point is, let's just make this legal already. Allow the pitcher to have a very good grip on the ball before pitching. Instead of a useless rosin bag behind the mound, MLB needs to create another substance for pitchers to use as needed.
I understand why these 2 pitchers were suspended. At the same time about 90% of the pitchers in the league practice his habit and for good reason. For a better grip. Does that better grip give the pitcher a competitive advantage? I don't think so.

I don't necessarily have an opinion yet. I agree with the suspensions because they broke the rules. However do we really need to give pitchers more of an advantage? Right now it's a pitching dominant era, and Manfred is close to letting hitters practically hit off a tee to bring back the offense.

I'm not sure how I feel either way yet.

[UtahRatt]

The other night on ESPN, Dallas Braden admitted he "cheated" on the mound by applying sunscreen and rosin to his arm & applying pine tar to his glove. Then ESPN showed slo motion footage of him applying the gunk to his hands and baseball.
My point is, let's just make this legal already. Allow the pitcher to have a very good grip on the ball before pitching. Instead of a useless rosin bag behind the mound, MLB needs to create another substance for pitchers to use as needed.
I understand why these 2 pitchers were suspended. At the same time about 90% of the pitchers in the league practice his habit and for good reason. For a better grip. Does that better grip give the pitcher a competitive advantage? I don't think so.

So you're ok with pitchers using pinetar for better grip on a baseball then you blast Tom Brady for under inflated balls in the same breath? Hypocritical much?

Seriously? Pitching is all about grip! Better grip absolutely gives him an advantage. It's a parking ticket compared to drugs but different substances will give you better command on a fastball or more movement on a slider.
If MLB opened the door they'll be using Stickum to Axl Grease and the ball will be lobbed in like a loaded mudball.

I don't find it a big offense but if you're caught there should be a minor punishment since there's bigger problems still at hand.

[UtahRatt]

I don't necessarily have an opinion yet. I agree with the suspensions because they broke the rules. However do we really need to give pitchers more of an advantage? Right now it's a pitching dominant era, and Manfred is close to letting hitters practically hit off a tee to bring back the offense.

I'm not sure how I feel either way yet.

I don't think we're in a pitching dominant era, I think coming out of a juiced era makes it seem that way.

[killeverything]

Mariners welcome back Austin Jackson from 15 day DL, option Danny Farquarer ( sp? ) to AAA Tacoma.

Maybe Farquarer can regain his "magic." I still sing the praises of Seattle, but that untouchable bullpen has been pretty hittable this season. If those guys rebound though?

[Machado]

The other night on ESPN, Dallas Braden admitted he "cheated" on the mound by applying sunscreen and rosin to his arm & applying pine tar to his glove. Then ESPN showed slo motion footage of him applying the gunk to his hands and baseball.
My point is, let's just make this legal already. Allow the pitcher to have a very good grip on the ball before pitching. Instead of a useless rosin bag behind the mound, MLB needs to create another substance for pitchers to use as needed.
I understand why these 2 pitchers were suspended. At the same time about 90% of the pitchers in the league practice his habit and for good reason. For a better grip. Does that better grip give the pitcher a competitive advantage? I don't think so.

So you're ok with pitchers using pinetar for better grip on a baseball then you blast Tom Brady for under inflated balls in the same breath? Hypocritical much?

Seriously? Pitching is all about grip! Better grip absolutely gives him an advantage. It's a parking ticket compared to drugs but different substances will give you better command on a fastball or more movement on a slider.
If MLB opened the door they'll be using Stickum to Axl Grease and the ball will be lobbed in like a loaded mudball.

I don't find it a big offense but if you're caught there should be a minor punishment since there's bigger problems still at hand.

Baseball and Football. 2 different sports with different rules. Apples and oranges there Utah.

If there was an approved substance that the players agreed upon, why not have that substance on the mound. Replacing the rosin bag. That was umpires and players are well aware that anything the pitcher applies to his person or glove is done so on the mound and only at the mound.
If a player were to add any substances prior to that or after that, then the pitcher would be subject to ejection.

[UtahRatt]

Baseball and Football. 2 different sports with different rules. Apples and oranges there Utah.

It's exactly the same, better grip for better control.
If anything it should be done away with in Football because the PSI rating rule gives an advantage to QB's with large hands, it's not equal or fair.
Deflate a football for better grip on the laces, add substance on a baseball for grip on the seems....What's the difference? Size?

After more thought I agree with you to a point, I'm leaning towards pine tar for one reason. If you've ever thrown a wet or rock cold football or a wet or cold baseball you don't know where it's going.
Also, it's already in the game and used by everyone so why not pitchers? It's used on bats so they don't fly out of their hands, pitchers should be able to use pinetar for the same reason. But I can see it getting out of hand and I bet it would improve pitching stats if openly allowed.

Guess I'd let pinetar slide but against all the other shit like carmex and sunscreen. It still leaves out doctoring the glove but like it's been said before, in every sport every player bends these stupid slap on the wrist rules that some people make a big deal out of.

[killeverything]

I don't necessarily have an opinion yet. I agree with the suspensions because they broke the rules. However do we really need to give pitchers more of an advantage? Right now it's a pitching dominant era, and Manfred is close to letting hitters practically hit off a tee to bring back the offense.

I'm not sure how I feel either way yet.

I don't think we're in a pitching dominant era, I think coming out of a juiced era makes it seem that way.

That's possible too. The general consensus ( one with which I agree ) is that we are. Maybe the hitters just aren't as good right now. I'm basing my observation ( strictly visually ) on the parallels between the aces nowadays ( the King, Kershaw, Price, and Tanaka [ possibly ] ) and the aces from when they lowered the pitcher's mound ( Gibson, Drysdale, Marchial, and Koufax ).

I can't remember ( reading ) about another era with so much dominance.

*No one has topped Pedro Martinez's '99 - 00. Or even come close. Pedro has a book which I need to read ( he's fucking hysterical ). I read an excerpt where he was talking about refusing PEDs. He didn't want anything to shrink his nuts or fuck with him those regards I could hear him telling the story when I read it. I had a couple of friends that did a cycle. I always refused to partake for the same reason. "It's gonna do what to me?" "Fuck you, mang."

[UtahRatt]

I think Pineda should get a long suspension and the Yankees should lose draft picks. TarGate! NY are known cheaters and should get punished.

[Machado]

http://wh.gov/iKrIl

Sign this petition to award Yogi Berra The Presidential Medal of Freedom for his
military service and civil rights and educational activism.

100,000 signatures are needed by June 8, 2015

[Machado]

I think Pineda should get a long suspension and the Yankees should lose draft picks. TarGate! NY are known cheaters and should get punished.

Hey meatball, wake the fuck up already. Pineda was suspended in 2014 for 10 games.
Did you learn something today? Geez you are slow witted

[UtahRatt]

I think Pineda should get a long suspension and the Yankees should lose draft picks. TarGate! NY are known cheaters and should get punished.

Hey meatball, wake the fuck up already. Pineda was suspended in 2014 for 10 games.
Did you learn something today? Geez you are slow witted

When someone points, do you look at their finger? Yankeeing your chain is easy but the point going over your melon head is a double play. We was talking about Brady deflating a ball for better grip is cheating but using a substance for better grip shouldn't be "If you're a Yankee". As far as missing the punch line I suggest reading sarcasm for dummies.

If it was Kershaw you'd burn crosses that's how robotic you are.


Just for kickers. TarGate! Yankees at their best!
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/73145346/ ... ar-on-neck

[killeverything]

http://wh.gov/iKrIl

Sign this petition to award Yogi Berra The Presidential Medal of Freedom for his
military service and civil rights and educational activism.

100,000 signatures are needed by June 8, 2015

WTF? Look I'm a fan of Yogi, but this award? Reach much? God, fuck the Yankees. Your team is once again a joke, but there is no more retirement tours.......HONOR Yogi! Not only was he a Yankee....he was a hero too! Fuck off.

When I read about Jackie Robinson, Josh Gibson, and the legacy preservation of Buck O' Neil, I'm constantly amazed how much New York Yankees' Yogi Berra's name was brought up as a ally in their struggles.

Okay, never. Berra never called them "niggers." Berra had the opposite reaction of Ty Cobb. We need to honor him. He was a Yankee.

Fuck that award. Fuck the Yankees. I hope he doesn't get it for the simple fact it's erroneous. Wait. Give it to him if he admits Jackie Robinson WAS safe. Mr. Champion of Civil Rights still says "Jackie was out!"

[Machado]

http://wh.gov/iKrIl

Sign this petition to award Yogi Berra The Presidential Medal of Freedom for his
military service and civil rights and educational activism.

100,000 signatures are needed by June 8, 2015

WTF? Look I'm a fan of Yogi, but this award? Reach much? God, fuck the Yankees. Your team is once again a joke, but there is no more retirement tours.......HONOR Yogi! Not only was he a Yankee....he was a hero too! Fuck off.

When I read about Jackie Robinson, Josh Gibson, and the legacy preservation of Buck O' Neil, I'm constantly amazed how much New York Yankees' Yogi Berra's name was brought up as a ally in their struggles.

Okay, never. Berra never called them "niggers." Berra had the opposite reaction of Ty Cobb. We need to honor him. He was a Yankee.

Fuck that award. Fuck the Yankees. I hope he doesn't get it for the simple fact it's erroneous. Wait. Give it to him if he admits Jackie Robinson WAS safe. Mr. Champion of Civil Rights still says "Jackie was out!"

Today's Bud Selig implimented MLB replay system would not overturn the call at home. SAFE!
To be honest I could care less if the call was correct or not.
I care more about Yogi being 90 years of age and a baseball icon.
Of course he deserves this medal. Why not?

[Machado]

A-Rod broke Lou Gehrig's AL record for RBI and moved into sole possession of third place on MLB's all-time list.

Congrats Alex. Quite an achievement there. 3rd place on all-time list. Coming soon is 3,000 hits. I believe he is about 20 short of that mark.

[killeverything]

A-Rod broke Lou Gehrig's AL record for RBI and moved into sole possession of third place on MLB's all-time list.

Congrats Alex. Quite an achievement there. 3rd place on all-time list. Coming soon is 3,000 hits. I believe he is about 20 short of that mark.

How is that quite an achievement?

[Machado]

A-Rod broke Lou Gehrig's AL record for RBI and moved into sole possession of third place on MLB's all-time list.

Congrats Alex. Quite an achievement there. 3rd place on all-time list. Coming soon is 3,000 hits. I believe he is about 20 short of that mark.

How is that quite an achievement?

How? He knocked in 3 runs today with a HR to left. What do you mean how?
Enough of the PED scandal. Enough of the asterisk next to a player's name. Fans and the public have to get over it. Players have been cheating since the game was invented. Furthermore, management turned a blind eye to this cheating because it was good for revenue. Players and teams were making millions so there was not a care in the world.
Suddenly after the game has been played for all these years the fans are supposed to single out players that may or have not have cheated and the record books are supposed to remain pristine of players who used PED's.
The argument is ridiculous.
Babe Ruth was once late to a game because he was drunk. Today that would be a national headline but during his day he was patted on the behind for drinking all those beers and having at least 1 female in his bed.
Do you see where I am going here?

Bonds
McGwire
Sosa
Each one of them was supported by his teammates(most of them) and by management to cheat the system, knock the ball out of the park more times than the previous record holder, etc....

Now we have ARod breaking records and suddenly there should be an asterisk because he supposedly cheated. The players assoc has such a strong union that failed tests can be kept private. So the truth never comes out. Who is hiding the facts and for who's benefit? Certainly not the players because their name(s) get ruined in the press and reputations are ruined for a lifetime.
If the owners and managers also fell just as hard as the players have to date with the PED scandal. I might be more inclined to have the asterisk appear for all to see. Until that day comes, get the fuck over it already!

[killeverything]

A-Rod broke Lou Gehrig's AL record for RBI and moved into sole possession of third place on MLB's all-time list.

Congrats Alex. Quite an achievement there. 3rd place on all-time list. Coming soon is 3,000 hits. I believe he is about 20 short of that mark.

How is that quite an achievement?

How? He knocked in 3 runs today with a HR to left. What do you mean how?
Enough of the PED scandal. Enough of the asterisk next to a player's name. Fans and the public have to get over it. Players have been cheating since the game was invented. Furthermore, management turned a blind eye to this cheating because it was good for revenue. Players and teams were making millions so there was not a care in the world.
Suddenly after the game has been played for all these years the fans are supposed to single out players that may or have not have cheated and the record books are supposed to remain pristine of players who used PED's.
The argument is ridiculous.
Babe Ruth was once late to a game because he was drunk. Today that would be a national headline but during his day he was patted on the behind for drinking all those beers and having at least 1 female in his bed.
Do you see where I am going here?

Bonds
McGwire
Sosa
Each one of them was supported by his teammates(most of them) and by management to cheat the system, knock the ball out of the park more times than the previous record holder, etc....

Now we have ARod breaking records and suddenly there should be an asterisk because he supposedly cheated. The players assoc has such a strong union that failed tests can be kept private. So the truth never comes out. Who is hiding the facts and for who's benefit? Certainly not the players because their name(s) get ruined in the press and reputations are ruined for a lifetime.
If the owners and managers also fell just as hard as the players have to date with the PED scandal. I might be more inclined to have the asterisk appear for all to see. Until that day comes, get the fuck over it already!

He didn't "supposedly" cheat, Forrest. He DID cheat, THAT'S WHY HE WAS FUCKING SUSPENDED!! That's why he'll never make the Hall Of Fame, that's why there will be an asterisk next to his "records."

What's funny is he IS the face of the Yankees and I can't think of player that epidomizes that piece of shit franchise better than Asteriskrod.

[killeverything]

Cardinals 1B Matt Adams will miss 3-4 months with quad strain.

The injuries have been piling up for St. Louis this season. Wainwright's having Tommy John and now Adams is out for the majority of it. The Cards still have the best record in baseball though.

[killeverything]

Jason Werth has two fractures in wrist. Out until at least August.

[Machado]

Last night I attended the Yankees vs A's game. At around the 6th inning the belligerent A's fans showed their faces and a few scuffles came about.
Best fight involved a single Astros fan who was wearing a Springer #4 jersey and an A's fan. A few pushes by both parties and down goes Springer with a shove to the chest. He tumbles over a seat, falls onto his back, laid out on the cement.
The A's fan throws about 6 consecutive punches as Springer lays motionless, unable to stand on his feet because he fell back onto the seats.
Once he appeared it was easy to see the red marks and welts on the left side of his face.
Springer was booed as he was escorted out by police and the A's fan was giving high fives and shaking hands while being escorted out as well.

[killeverything]

The Cubs are targeting Ben Zobrist in a trade with Oakland ( Zobrist played under Maddon in Tampa ).

Masashiro Tanaka to return Wednesday against Seattle.

Matt Wieters will return from TJ surgery sometime next week.

[UtahRatt]

Randy Johnson who's friends with Geddy Lee has been the band's photographer for a few shows is involved in a contest to meet RUSH and Randy in Chicago.

Story
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/126030412 ... in-concert

Contest
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/126030412 ... in-concert

You get two round trip tickets to Chicago, three nights accommodations, two front row seats to the show, meet and greet with Rush and Randy and two tickets to a Cubs game + a measly $200 for ground transpo.

How much can I sell the Cub's tickets for?

[killeverything]

That's pretty wild. RJ is one of the greatest pitchers of all time, but a noted asshole. I don't think I'd want to meet him. Although he deserves a high five for 2001.

Stephen Strasburg to DL with neck strain. There are some ( possibly jumping the gun ) comparisons to he and Mark Prior coming out now. Prior had to deal with Dusty Baker's retarded ass, Statsburg post-TJ has been coddled.

Bryce Harper sitting with sore back after HBP yesterday.

Josh Hamilton blasted two HRs in Texas. I'm by no means a Rangers fan ( at all ), but I'm pulling for the crackhead.

[UtahRatt]

That's pretty wild. RJ is one of the greatest pitchers of all time, but a noted asshole. I don't think I'd want to meet him. Although he deserves a high five for 2001.

Stephen Strasburg to DL with neck strain. There are some ( possibly jumping the gun ) comparisons to he and Mark Prior coming out now. Prior had to deal with Dusty Baker's retarded ass, Statsburg post-TJ has been coddled.

Bryce Harper sitting with sore back after HBP yesterday.

Josh Hamilton blasted two HRs in Texas. I'm by no means a Rangers fan ( at all ), but I'm pulling for the crackhead.

I didn't know RJ was a known asshole? I know the arrogance that comes with the competitive nature of being in sports, on top, on the field or anyone on Roids but I didn't know Randy was a dick. He seemed cool from what I remember but you have a lot more knowledge about history, stats and stuff then I ever will.

I'd totally want to meet Randy and RUSH. And I'd probably catch the Cub's game but I'd love to catch a HR and not throw it back. If they still do that shit.

I still say Bryce Harper for MVP, it was a call before the season so he better get off his ass.

[killeverything]

That's pretty wild. RJ is one of the greatest pitchers of all time, but a noted asshole. I don't think I'd want to meet him. Although he deserves a high five for 2001.

Stephen Strasburg to DL with neck strain. There are some ( possibly jumping the gun ) comparisons to he and Mark Prior coming out now. Prior had to deal with Dusty Baker's retarded ass, Statsburg post-TJ has been coddled.

Bryce Harper sitting with sore back after HBP yesterday.

Josh Hamilton blasted two HRs in Texas. I'm by no means a Rangers fan ( at all ), but I'm pulling for the crackhead.

I didn't know RJ was a known asshole? I know the arrogance that comes with the competitive nature of being in sports, on top, on the field or anyone on Roids but I didn't know Randy was a dick. He seemed cool from what I remember but you have a lot more knowledge about history, stats and stuff then I ever will.

I'd totally want to meet Randy and RUSH. And I'd probably catch the Cub's game but I'd love to catch a HR and not throw it back. If they still do that shit.

I still say Bryce Harper for MVP, it was a call before the season so he better get off his ass.

I don't know if he was a dick to his fans ( in NY he was ), he's got a rep for being pretty dickish. It's one of the reasons Seattle traded him. Also I read he's trying to sell his ranch because he has no visitors in his retirement since everyone hated him.

Harper's having a helluva start. I think he just got tired of being 2nd to Trout. When SF took out Washington last year, Harper was on a tear. He had like 4 HRs in that series. I agree with you, I think he came into this season pissed off.

[killeverything]

Adrian Beltre out at least 2 weeks with thumb sprain.

[UtahRatt]

May 26th Adrian Gonzalez got his 1,000 and 1,001st RBI of his career vs Braves with a 2R HR.

MLB dugout and fan favorite Adrian Gonzalez is the NL leading first basemen in All-Star voting near the top of the leaderboard for most offensive categories including humanitarian awards the Roberto Clemente Award and is up for a noble peace prize this year. He will become the second player to win all in one season since Milton Bradley.

[johnk5150]

John Danks may be in trouble.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/- ... -83658391/