The NFL Thread

[Bludegeon]

24-20 Scoreboard..

All that needs to be said.

[UtahRatt]

Didn't watch any of the games, they all went how I expected except the Ravens/Steelers match. Figured it could be good but planned on the Steelers to pull through. Didn't know Bell was out, that had to take away any chance of having a run game. Sounds like FaLcola earned his paycheck. I hope the Ravens get stomped next round.

Way to go Lions, after being Packered into the ground I knew they'd blow it against the Cowgirls. I went from liking and rooting for the Lions to hoping they never do shit in one game.


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[Rorysfan]

The officials in the Steelers-Ravens game were as ridiculous as the ones in the Dallas-Detroit game. Balt has two penalties for 14 yds??? Hell, I saw at least five others that should have been called on them. Two blatant facemasks.....The WWE is more realistic than the NFL these days

[Tenacious_Dio]

The owner of the St. Louis Rams plans to build an NFL stadium in Inglewood, which could pave the way for the league's return to Los Angeles.

Rams owner Stan Kroenke, who bought 60 acres adjacent to the Forum a year ago, has joined forces with the owners of the 238-acre Hollywood Park site, Stockbridge Capital Group. They plan to add an 80,000-seat NFL stadium and 6,000-seat performance venue to the already-massive development of retail, office, hotel and residential space, Stockbridge and the Kroenke Group told The Times.

The announcement is the latest in more than a dozen stadium proposals that have come and gone in the meandering, two-decade effort to bring an NFL franchise back to the nation's second-largest media market. But Kroenke's move marks the first time an existing team owner has controlled a local site large enough for a stadium and parking.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp ... tml#page=1

[Redman77]

As a Lions fan, I'm used to seeing them lose, but this one was tough to take. The officiating was horrible & changed the momentum of the game. The Lions had their chances & it won't be the last blown call, but to announce it on the field and then pull the flag was bad. And to have that douche bag Dez go on the field to yell at the officials with no penalty is ridiculous. With that being said, go Packers, beat the shit out of the Cowboys.

[Bludegeon]

Officiating was horrible during the whole game. Not just for the Lions. But, I can't believe they picked up that flag. Wow..

IMO, penalties should of offset considering both players had infractions.

Still, Detroit still had the chances, and they didn't come through.

I lost no sleep over it. Just like if roles reversed, Lions fans wouldn't have lost a wink..

Oh well. On to Green Bay..

Shit.

[Redman77]

[Bludegeon]

hahaha..

And, Lions fans..


Well, ummm. Yeah.. Guess, I got nothing..

I will think of something.

Course, not by next week, I got football to watch this coming weekend.

[Machado]

Yahoo! Sports:

Conspiracy theorists had their smoking gun in the fourth quarter of the Dallas Cowboys-Detroit Lions playoff game on Sunday.

You rarely see an officiating crew pick up a flag as late as the Cowboys-Lions crew did on the most controversial play of wild-card weekend. On third down, Matthew Stafford threw to Brandon Pettigrew, who was covered by linebacker Anthony Hitchens. Hitchens never turned around, face-guarding Pettigrew, and that combined with some contact drew a flag for pass interference.

But the Lions went from thinking they had a crucial first down to facing a fourth-and-1. That's because the officials reversed the call, saying Hitchens made a clean play. There was no pass interference. The Lions unsuccessfully tried to draw the Cowboys offsides afterward, took a delay of game penalty, shanked a punt, and the Cowboys marched down for a go-ahead 8-yard touchdown pass from Tony Romo to Terrance Williams with 2:32 remaining.

The non-call changed the entire game. The Cowboys (who, conspiracy theorists will note, are an enormous television draw for the NFL) held on to win 24-20. Most NFL fans hate the Cowboys, and did they ever hate that the pass interference wasn't called.

Mike Pereira, the well-respected former vice president of officiating in the NFL, was in the booth for Fox’s broadcast and said he thought it was pass interference and wrong of the officials to reverse the call.

All the people bitching about the call/non call, etc.....STFU already.

1)Just because the Ref announced the penalty does not mean a damn thing. In the past the fans bitch and moan when the ref's take extra long to announce a penalty. This time around the ref was quick on the trigger and there is still moaning
2)Face Guarding is not a penalty in the NFL. The defender did get his hands on the player, but because he had his back to the ball, there is a certain group that wants to bitch and moan about the call/non call.
Let the players play is my motto
3)Give the refs a little credit for conferring with one another and getting the call correct.
4)The NFL once again sets up the crews for failure in the playoffs. These crews have not worked together all season. Why not send a full crew, a crew that has worked together for 17 weeks instead of "an all star crew" for the most important games of the season???
5)Detroit has only themselves to blame. The penalties called against them were legit. The defense held the Dallas RB that was coming out of the backfield. Megatron did commit a crucial false start towards the end of the game.

[Bludegeon]

All the people bitching about the call/non call, etc.....STFU already.

1)Just because the Ref announced the penalty does not mean a damn thing. In the past the fans bitch and moan when the ref's take extra long to announce a penalty. This time around the ref was quick on the trigger and there is still moaning
2)Face Guarding is not a penalty in the NFL. The defender did get his hands on the player, but because he had his back to the ball, there is a certain group that wants to bitch and moan about the call/non call.
Let the players play is my motto
3)Give the refs a little credit for conferring with one another and getting the call correct.
4)The NFL once again sets up the crews for failure in the playoffs. These crews have not worked together all season. Why not send a full crew, a crew that has worked together for 17 weeks instead of "an all star crew" for the most important games of the season???
5)Detroit has only themselves to blame. The penalties called against them were legit. The defense held the Dallas RB that was coming out of the backfield. Megatron did commit a crucial false start towards the end of the game.[/quote]


Oh,, this is gonna get good in here. LOL...

[Gritt]

And what about Dez running on the field without his helmet on to argue with the official? That's a 15 yard penalty right there. Fuck off Machado.

[veritas]

And what about Dez running on the field without his helmet on to argue with the official? That's a 15 yard penalty right there. Fuck off Machado.

yeah, how they didn't flag fucking Dez is beyond me -- and can you imagine his epic meltdown if they had flagged him and given Detroit a first down? (not to mention the subsequent tutorial by Machado on the importance of officiating to the outcome of games ....)

[sin]

The response by Machado and the response by bludegeon is the difference in why Machado is considered a moron and Bludegeon is not. I'm just shocked it took him this long to respond. He must of had to wait for other people to tell him how it was okay.

[eddie lee roth]

I like how he can go on and on about how the refs didn't fuck up the pass interference call and the people talking about it need to STFU.

Then he talks about how they need to let the players play the game.

And then he concludes with all the flags on the Lions were right on.

Every time he hits submit.

[dtmfs]

Lol @ "give the refs credit for getting the call correct"

NFL head official: Cowboys should have been flagged

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl ... id=U219DHP

[HeavyMetalZombie666]

[Machado]

And what about Dez running on the field without his helmet on to argue with the official? That's a 15 yard penalty right there. Fuck off Machado.

Nitt Gritt-You fuck off. Learn the rules of the game instead of jumping up and down like
a spoiled kid. Bryant running on the field minus his helmet is not an automatic penalty.
If more people understood the rules just a bit more this locker room would be better off.

[Gritt]

And what about Dez running on the field without his helmet on to argue with the official? That's a 15 yard penalty right there. Fuck off Machado.

Nitt Gritt-You fuck off. Learn the rules of the game instead of jumping up and down like
a spoiled kid. Bryant running on the field minus his helmet is not an automatic penalty.
If more people understood the rules just a bit more this locker room would be better off.

Per NFL rule book: Unsportsmanlike conduct
Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.

[Machado]

And what about Dez running on the field without his helmet on to argue with the official? That's a 15 yard penalty right there. Fuck off Machado.

Nitt Gritt-You fuck off. Learn the rules of the game instead of jumping up and down like
a spoiled kid. Bryant running on the field minus his helmet is not an automatic penalty.
If more people understood the rules just a bit more this locker room would be better off.

Per NFL rule book: Unsportsmanlike conduct
Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.

Be honest for a second. You are trolling yes? Tell me you are trolling like never before. Please.

Good job copying and pasting the NFL Rule book.
What you fail to understand and that is not a surprise, is that Dez was not on the field during the play. He was on the sideline and not wearing his helmet. Therefore his running on the field without the helmet is NOT a violation of the Unsportsmanlike conduct rule.
THANK YOU!!!

[Gritt]

He was not on the filed for the play. You are correct. He should not have been on the field arguing with the official. He should have been flagged for it. I'm not going conspiracy theory on this but it was a big ol pile of bullshit and there is no kind of circular logic you and your Cowboy loving self can come up with to claim otherwise. It was a shit job by the official and if it happened the other way you would be in here crying over the corpse of another failed Cowboy season. Fuck off Machado.

[Gritt]

And Bludgeon, thank you for being an intelligent and rational Cowboy fan.

Our greasy, donkey fucking, jalapeño picking, tomato farming, burrito eating, toilet clogging, cheapskate piece of shit Machado can fuck off.

[Machado]

He was not on the filed for the play. You are correct. He should not have been on the field arguing with the official. He should have been flagged for it. I'm not going conspiracy theory on this but it was a big ol pile of bullshit and there is no kind of circular logic you and your Cowboy loving self can come up with to claim otherwise. It was a shit job by the official and if it happened the other way you would be in here crying over the corpse of another failed Cowboy season. Fuck off Machado.

Troll on Troll on Troll on. If anybody ever wondered how someone behaves when they do not get there way, well let me present Nitt Gritt for you.

Why should he have been flagged? His actions do not equal an automatic penalty. Do you understand that? I am still not sure you fully do understand the rule.

The NFL is to blame. The Lions are to blame.
The NFL is to blame for having all star crews working for the very 1st time together in the most meaningful games of the year.
The Lions are to blame because after the controversial play, there were 8 additional minutes remaining in the game.

On the play in question you might have seen Defensive Holding. Which was a point of emphasis this year. If you have seen games this season you would have witnessed a flag on that play and other times no flag. Suddenly you are screaming for the flag here.
Then you have the Lions player with his hand on the facemask of the Dallas defender. Per the rule, that is a flag against the offense.
At the end of the day Dallas won and the Lions gave the game away with the
10 yard punt, allowing Dallas to secure a 1st down on 4th and 6 and then giving up the go ahead
TD on Romo and Williams

[Heenan Snuka]

As a Lions fan, I'm used to seeing them lose, but this one was tough to take.

yea.

they played good enough to win. dominated most of the game

how Caldwell got a coaching job is beyond me.

If the Lions had a coach like John-Ass Harbaugh, they would goto the Super Bowl.

[Machado]

And Bludgeon, thank you for being an intelligent and rational Cowboy fan.

Our greasy, donkey fucking, jalapeño picking, tomato farming, burrito eating, toilet clogging, cheapskate piece of shit Machado can fuck off.

RACIST!

[UtahRatt]

And Bludgeon, thank you for being an intelligent and rational Cowboy fan.

Our greasy, donkey fucking, jalapeño picking, tomato farming, burrito eating, toilet clogging, cheapskate piece of shit Machado can fuck off.

RACIST!

I think you mean he's a "bigot" because you're an idiot.

The NFC is really weak this year but it all goes through Seattle and that's where it ends.

[dtmfs]

On the play in question you might have seen Defensive Holding. Which was a point of emphasis this year. If you have seen games this season you would have witnessed a flag on that play and other times no flag. Suddenly you are screaming for the flag here.
Then you have the Lions player with his hand on the facemask of the Dallas defender. Per the rule, that is a flag against the offense.
At the end of the day Dallas won and the Lions gave the game away with the
10 yard punt, allowing Dallas to secure a 1st down on 4th and 6 and then giving up the go ahead
TD on Romo and Williams

When a head official admits they fucked up, you have to be objective and just admit it, they didn't mention any of the bullshit you posted on major sports sites or had discussions about it on shows, quit being such a damn homer. this was a playoff game in which a team won on a comeback while beniffiting from an admitted blown call, of course it's a bigger deal than "meh, it happened in other games this season too".

[Bludegeon]

And Bludgeon, thank you for being an intelligent and rational Cowboy fan.

Our greasy, donkey fucking, jalapeño picking, tomato farming, burrito eating, toilet clogging, cheapskate piece of shit Machado can fuck off.

Hahhaa.. Well, thanks Gritt..

One last thing on that PI/ NON PI Call..

I don't agree it changed the whole outcome of the game. A lot of people think it was. I think Dallas going for it on 4 and 1 and Murray getting the TD changed it for Dallas. Mentally and, point wise, it helped , of course. lol

If the call stays, maybe Detroit scores a TD, maybe 3. I think Dallas was playing better at that point and Detroit was fluttering.

Dallas still had to overcome a 4th and 7 to get a first down. No penalty left Witten that wide open on a fourth down., LOL.

That game was up and down for anyone with vested interest into it. Calls in this game went both ways.. I think the call on Beasley was horseshit.. But, that's me, I guess I just like the way football used to be played and not so many penalties. I think the no call on Detroit running into Dallas's punter was a good call too. Looked to me like he was pushed into the punter and also tried to back off. The penalty for Dallas in the same situation was legit.. The no call on the fair catch was bullshit. That should've been called. Only because the Detroit player was clearly in view of the Fair catch signal, and could've stopped. I know it wasn't massive. Doesn't have to be. IE.. See the call against Dallas in regards to Detroit's punter.

Terrance Williams "Offensive PI" Call, when he was clearly pushed into the defender by another Detroit defender.. LOL. Laughable. Took away a first down..

So many calls, man. They happen in every game. It's how the teams respond that make the difference..

A year ago, we Cowboys fans , we would be all upset as the Lions fans and media are this year. Well, minus the media and most of the country if it had happened to Dallas. LOL..

But, both teams had chances.. One team still lead, blown a double touchdown lead, didn't amount much offense or defense in the second half. Decided to punt on a 4th and 1. Instead of really take charge, kill momentum and put the game possibly away.

One team went for it. Went for the win. They had no choice.

And, somehow, in complete surprise to this Cowboys fan.. The Cowboys pull it off..


Still can't believe that one.

[Machado]

On the play in question you might have seen Defensive Holding. Which was a point of emphasis this year. If you have seen games this season you would have witnessed a flag on that play and other times no flag. Suddenly you are screaming for the flag here.
Then you have the Lions player with his hand on the facemask of the Dallas defender. Per the rule, that is a flag against the offense.
At the end of the day Dallas won and the Lions gave the game away with the
10 yard punt, allowing Dallas to secure a 1st down on 4th and 6 and then giving up the go ahead
TD on Romo and Williams

When a head official admits they fucked up, you have to be objective and just admit it, they didn't mention any of the bullshit you posted on major sports sites or had discussions about it on shows, quit being such a damn homer. this was a playoff game in which a team won on a comeback while beniffiting from an admitted blown call, of course it's a bigger deal than "meh, it happened in other games this season too".

Oh please, come up with something quite a bit stronger. Your argument is very subjective. Anyway, the call/non call is being blown out of proportion. The Lions head coach wants the story to have legs to takeaway from his very conservative play calling in the 4th quarter.
Why didn't the Lions go for it on 4th and 1 from the 46? Instead the Offense lined up and attempted to draw Dallas offsides. That was a very poor call and showed Caldwell did not have the stones to lead the team to a victory.
Contrary you have the Dallas head coach going for it on 4th and 6, with just under 6 minutes to play.

There might have been multiple penalties on the call/non PI call and in the end nothing was called. Let the players play.
Of course the Ref could have handled the situation a lot better. Then again the NFL set them up for failure by sending all-star crews to the playoffs.

[Redman77]

you have to be objective .

Good one.

[eddie lee roth]

you have to be objective .

Good one.

For Machado that would require the ability to reason and common sense things he knows nothing about.