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DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:Billy Beane-brain continues his quest to make the A's the worst team in the MLB. He just traded Scott Kazmir to the Astros for pitcher Daniel Mengden and catcher Jacob Nottingham. Still on the trading block are Ben Zobrist & Tyler Clippard.

I wouldn't be shocked if he trades away Burns, Lawrie, Vogt and Reddick too! I think Beane has worn out his welcome in Oakland. He was once a visionary, now he is just schizo!
Well, to be fair, he's a free agent after this year. A qualifying offer for 2016 will be easily north of $16MM, which I doubt the A's would make.

So, they had to get something in return. But the question is, could another team, such as the Dodgers, have made a better offer than Houston?
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Pirates acquire 3B Aramis Ramirez and cash from Brewers for prospect Thomas.
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DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:
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DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:Billy Beane-brain continues his quest to make the A's the worst team in the MLB. He just traded Scott Kazmir to the Astros for pitcher Daniel Mengden and catcher Jacob Nottingham. Still on the trading block are Ben Zobrist & Tyler Clippard.

I wouldn't be shocked if he trades away Burns, Lawrie, Vogt and Reddick too! I think Beane has worn out his welcome in Oakland. He was once a visionary, now he is just schizo!
Well, to be fair, he's a free agent after this year. A qualifying offer for 2016 will be easily north of $16MM, which I doubt the A's would make.

So, they had to get something in return. But the question is, could another team, such as the Dodgers, have made a better offer than Houston?
I agree on the free agent part but the minor leaguers the A's received are in Class A ball & are 2-3 years away from the bigs at best! Like you said, there had to be a better offer, somewhere!

The A's need to quit being such tight asses! If Billy Beane's ways of doing things were soooo great, he'd have a World Series ring on his finger!
The man is overrated. What has he won? The other Billy Beane has accomplished more, LOL!!!
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DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:
wickedsensation wrote:
DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:Billy Beane-brain continues his quest to make the A's the worst team in the MLB. He just traded Scott Kazmir to the Astros for pitcher Daniel Mengden and catcher Jacob Nottingham. Still on the trading block are Ben Zobrist & Tyler Clippard.

I wouldn't be shocked if he trades away Burns, Lawrie, Vogt and Reddick too! I think Beane has worn out his welcome in Oakland. He was once a visionary, now he is just schizo!
Well, to be fair, he's a free agent after this year. A qualifying offer for 2016 will be easily north of $16MM, which I doubt the A's would make.

So, they had to get something in return. But the question is, could another team, such as the Dodgers, have made a better offer than Houston?
I agree on the free agent part but the minor leaguers the A's received are in Class A ball & are 2-3 years away from the bigs at best! Like you said, there had to be a better offer, somewhere!

The A's need to quit being such tight asses! If Billy Beane's ways of doing things were soooo great, he'd have a World Series ring on his finger!
That's on ownership, not Billy. He still impresses me because he has Oakland as a threat every season. LAAAAAA has spent a lot to be competitive behind Trout. Seattle has shown the ability to break open the pocketbook too.

Beane has been quoted more than once saying "my shit don't work in the playoffs." Aside from the Donaldson trade and letting Street go ( relievers are different category since they're so volatile ), I agree with his trades. He stated about Kazmir that they had to look realistically at the standings.
Machado wrote: The man is overrated. What has he won? The other Billy Beane has accomplished more, LOL!!!
He is? He implemented a system that literally changed how GM's run/think about their teams now, practically overnight. That was no longer a secret so he came up with another way, and was in the wild card. Overrated would be spending over a billion dollars with only ONE ring to show for it.

And who is this "other Billy Beane" you speak of?
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killeverything wrote:Kershaw first pitcher in 100 years with 10+ K 0BB 0R in 2 starts.
Followed by a 0BB/11K shutout today.

I think he's turned the corner.
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killeverything wrote:Kershaw first pitcher in 100 years with 10+ K 0BB 0R in 2 starts.
Followed by a 0BB/11K shutout today.

I think he's turned the corner.
Took a no hitter into the 7th? That fucking 7th inning. Kershaws at 29 scoreless innings. Greinke scoreless-innings streak is stuck at 43 2/3 since missing a start because his wife is giving birth......

Now the Dodgers are giving Rookie Ian Thomas his first big league start on Friday. With talks of Prospect Zach Lee had been positioned to make his Major League debut Saturday night in place of Beachy....Now LAD don't know what to do, press release is we hope Zak can make it back in time for Saturday. Spit that kid out already.

I'm sure the pen will start warming up Friday morning and stay throwing all weekend.
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killeverything wrote:Pirates acquire 3B Aramis Ramirez and cash from Brewers for prospect Thomas.
Ramirez to the Pirates,

Another homecoming of sorts. Twelve years ago this week, the Pirates traded Ramirez (and Kenny Lofton) to the Cubs for a couple of spare parts.
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killeverything wrote:Feds drop criminal case against Bonds...again. The HOF debate continues.
With all the odds and money against the truth it wouldn't shock me if someday MLB puts all these injectors in the HOF. The prosecution, fed's and basically no one is going to get help or the truth from anyone and the MLB will want this needle to be lost in the haystack. They don't want this black mark so you'll be seeing some of these guys everyone knew was on roids get in the HOF and eventually that will grow and open the flood gates.

Rafael Palmeiro - 2014 “I'll look at the bright side,” Palmeiro said. “I'll be eligible in [12] years, and maybe at that point things are a lot different and people see it in a different light. I'm disappointed. I am not going to lie. I won't say I was hoping for a miracle and that I'd get elected, but I was hoping to stay on it a little longer.”

I am not going to lie :lol:
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Palmeiro and McGwire have no business being in. McGwire was juiced his entire career and all he did was hit HRs. That's it.

Bonds, while I fucking hate that guy is arguably the greatest player of all time. It's debatable from his Pittsburgh stats alone.

Guys that did nothing but lie and try to destroy anyone that told the truth should never be in. I think AsteriskRod should have had a lifetime ban. Same with Braun. Rajah never gets in either.

Cardinals acquire Steve Cishek from Marlins for RHP ( AA ) Kyle Baraclough.
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Mets acquire Uribe and Johnson from Braves for pitching prospects Jon Gant and Rob Whalen.

The top selling jerseys in the first half of the year are:

1. Bumgarner Giants
2. Bryant Cubs ( #2 jersey, 3 months as a big leaguer :lol: )
3. Posey Giants
4. Kershaw Dodgers
5. Harper Nationals
6. Pence Giants
7. Trout Angels
8. Harvet Mets
9. Ortiz Red Sox
10. Rizzo Cubs

I'm expecting Greinke to shoot up into the top 10 considering the season he's having.

Scott Kazmir 3H 3K 0BB 7IP in his debut for the Astros.
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killeverything wrote:Mets acquire Uribe and Johnson from Braves for pitching prospects Jon Gant and Rob Whalen.

The top selling jerseys in the first half of the year are:

1. Bumgarner Giants
2. Bryant Cubs ( #2 jersey, 3 months as a big leaguer :lol: )
3. Posey Giants
4. Kershaw Dodgers
5. Harper Nationals
6. Pence Giants
7. Trout Angels
8. Harvet Mets
9. Ortiz Red Sox
10. Rizzo Cubs

I'm expecting Greinke to shoot up into the top 10 considering the season he's having.

Scott Kazmir 3H 3K 0BB 7IP in his debut for the Astros.
We might need to have the Royals investigate this list I think the Giants probably tampered with it! I was going to post it but it got late and I passed out.

Bryant at number 2? What no Puig? At least Felix, but that's Seattle.

Didn't expect to see Harvet......But I don't care for the Met's.

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July 24th
Mets 2 Dodgers 7 - Rookie Ian Thomas in his first start got his first win.
Ian Thomas (W)- 5IP 3H 1ER 0BB 5SO
Ian came over from the Braves in the Uribe trade on May 27th. Justin Turner rapped out three extra-base hits against his old team.

July 25th
Mets vs Dodgers - So far LAD is starting another Rookie "Zack Lee" today, hasn't thrown a pitch in the Majors and gets to face Harvey. I hope it's Brett Anderson because Zack will get blasted.

Not to mention.....Just in time!

Mets picking up Kelly Johnson and Juan Uribe. Both should be in the line up today. Watch Uribe play Turner and pay back LAD.
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UtahRatt wrote:
killeverything wrote:Mets acquire Uribe and Johnson from Braves for pitching prospects Jon Gant and Rob Whalen.

The top selling jerseys in the first half of the year are:

1. Bumgarner Giants
2. Bryant Cubs ( #2 jersey, 3 months as a big leaguer :lol: )
3. Posey Giants
4. Kershaw Dodgers
5. Harper Nationals
6. Pence Giants
7. Trout Angels
8. Harvet Mets
9. Ortiz Red Sox
10. Rizzo Cubs

I'm expecting Greinke to shoot up into the top 10 considering the season he's having.

Scott Kazmir 3H 3K 0BB 7IP in his debut for the Astros.
We might need to have the Royals investigate this list I think the Giants probably tampered with it! I was going to post it but it got late and I passed out.

Bryant at number 2? What no Puig? At least Felix, but that's Seattle.

Didn't expect to see Harvet......But I don't care for the Met's.
Yeah, I was kinda expecting SF to lead, especially with the run the Bochy and Sabean have them on. They're at the height of their popularity right now. Bumgarner WS MVP, Pence being a a mouthpiece, plus Posey just won 'Face Of The MLB.'

As for the King, most Seattle fans already have his jersey. I didn't see the top 10, but I expect Cruz to possibly outsell him at this point. I kind of think Puig didn't crack the top 5 since he's spent a portion of the season on the DL and it's coming out how much the team dislikes eachother ( especially Yasiel ). Us fans are a fickle bunch.
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Cole Hammels nohits the Cubs. The big rumor is Saturday's start was Hammels' Chicago audition.
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Johnny Cueto traded to Royals. Other players involved not yet released.
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Zach Greinke's scoreless streak ends at 45.2IP.

Tim Hudson becomes 15th pitcher ( with win over A's ) with a win over all 30 teams.

David Ortiz had a career high 7 RBI game, moving to 38th all-time* with HR 485.

Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, John Smoltz, and Craig Biggio inducted into the BBHOF today.

The rumor right now is the Mets are all in on Cespedes. I think we're going to see another big trade go down. I'm thinking Price. LAD is so loaded with prospects moving a few won't effect them.

TX wants Hamels, but refuses to cripple their team in order to do it. I think LA is the only team that can pull of something with Philly.

The Seattle Mariners turned a wacky 3-6-2-2 triple play. The first of it's kind since 1954.

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I found out whom the Reds acquired for Cueto. Brandon Finnegan, John Lamb and Cody Reed. One of those guys looks like a #1 or #2, with two #2 or #3s. That could be a steep price for what is basically a rental.

Since 1995, 21 aces have been traded. Not one of those teams proceeded to win the WS. I'm not even sure one of them made it that far.
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killeverything wrote:Zach Greinke's scoreless streak ends at 45.2IP
The bigger picture, this loss puts SF 1 game behind and I bet anything this is where the Giants finally take over the West for good within a week. Even if LAD lands a pitcher I don't think it's going to change things. The Giant's have reeled LAD in so many times in the second half I'm use to it. Saying it now. Giant's finally take over the West inside a week and hold onto it for a while.

I'm not big on Hamels, not impressed, too high of price. David Price would be nice addition. Major problem, Zak will probably opt out of his contract at the end of the year. It's because of fucking LESTER'S big contract and Scherzer's that made Zak more then likely opt out. Forget about LAD made him the richest paid right hander ever when they signed him.

Losing Ryu so early is what hurt the Dodgers chances. 6 pitchers on the IR. 2 starting pitchers go down with Tommy John in May.

Zak's streak ends....45.2IP
A hit batter, an error flubbed lopper, and a fielders choice for the RBI...Joc flubbing the ball sending the runner to 3rd ruined it. Shitty way to end. It probably would have happened anyway but the score keepers explanation was stupid. I say it's R not ER. Predicting how it would have turned out. That error changed everything.

I knew the long break and the new baby would end the streak today. Still pitched good but he wasn't in a zone, 7IP 2ER 3BB 3SO. Almost as many walks as he did in the 44IP.
Impressive streak tho, not allowing a run in 45.2 innings, batters were hitting .094 against his fastball and he walked only four batters.

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The Streak was cool but I remember Orel Hershiser's 59 scoreless innings like it was yesterday. I watched a few games but listened to most all of them on the radio, spent the summer inside painting my first dumpy house listening to Vin Scully all season till the World Series.
Odd how I can so vividly remember games from 1988 when I listened to all of them on the radio. The finish was catching every game all the way to the WS. Kirk Gibson and Orel....They could win this year and it wont top that season.

I watched the game when Orel came out in the 10th to break it.
Oh, the old shit you never forget.

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killeverything wrote:Johnny Cueto traded to Royals. Other players involved not yet released.
Johnny Cueto and cash considerations in exchange for THREE young left-handed pitchers Brandon Finnegan, John Lamb and Cody Reed. The 25-year-old Finnegan has a 3-0 record and 2.96 ERA in a relief role this season, while Lamb and Reed are currently in the minors.

That fucking sucks but he comes with injuries!......Funny how I use to root for KC up till last year, Now I can't stand them.

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As far and Puig selling shirts, I don't think he's that popular with dodger fans anymore. This time last year he exploded but from September 2014 on through the playoffs I think more hate him.

I read a good post....Puig is the Rasheed Wallace of the MLB. Many LAD fans mentioned trading him for Cespedes it's that bad inside the Blue.

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More juiced records..... David Ortiz hit's in 7RBI's.
With 7 RBIs, Ortiz passes 3 Hall of Famers Red Sox slugger hops Kaline, Killebrew and Hornsby for 38th place all-time

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It's funny going back to the first of the season thinking the Padres spending money meant trouble. You can't always by the World Series, ask the Yankees, they've been doing it and trying since the game was invented.
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The Padres are “pushing hard” to trade big-name stars, executives from other teams tell Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Obviously, Justin Upton, Will Venable and Ian Kennedy are clear trade candidates, since those players are due to become free agents after the season. But James Shields, Andrew Cashner and Craig Kimbrel, who all are controlled beyond 2015, have also come up very frequently in talks, according to Heyman. Other possibilities include Tyson Ross, who’s due for free agency after 2017, and Joaquin Benoit, whose contract contains a club option for 2015.


Does this mean the Padres gave it a shot and go back to being mediocre?
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LAD's got the money and the prospects to acquire any ace. I believe practically all of them are free agents after this season too. That leads to a dilemma for the Dodgers. Do they want to give up a couple prospects to land an ace and sign them to an extension, or do they want to have to compete with Boston, NYY, CHC, and possibly Texas and St. Louis?

SF is hot right now. Fat Panda has writers calling for his trade. It looks like the strict diet and excercise plan Sabean insulted he and his idiot agent with worked out. Their FO didn't think Duffy was ready, hence the failed McGeehee experiment. Everyone saw that coming. It was more obvious than Jesus Montero sucking.

Anyways, even if the Giants win the division with the degeneration in Lincecum's hips, Hudson being 40, the inconsistencies of Romo and Casilla, Cain's inconsistencies, and the SP's struggles to make it past the 6th inning. I think SF's depth, or lack there of could be a factor. Of course everyone says that and their low to mid-lowish ranked farm surprises again. That luck has got to run out eventually :lol:

There's a possibility Papi could hit #500 this season. The problem is with his inclusion in the Mitchell Report and being a DH. I think his HOF chances are slim. Edgar Martinez has a good argument for election as a DH and he hasn't/probably won't get in. Mike Piazza played during the PED-era, that's it, and he still hasn't been elected.

The Roid Era was no joke. My stance has been softening to discussions on enshrinement with asterisks. Bonds and Clemens are two players that didn't didn't need it and had HOF stats before they started going on cycles. I'll always oppose Arod's induction for the same reason I think he and Braun should be banned. They went further than just juicing.

KC with Cueto is scary. It has been so long since they were good I don't think anyone would have been to bummed if they won the Series last year. This year though they seem to be disliked outside of their new fans in KC. I hope they lose again, unless of course they're playing the Yankees....or LAD.

I don't know what the hell is happening in SD. I wouldn't doubt their FO yet though. The OF assembled was pretty bad defensively, but did anyone see Kemp being such a negative factor? That's a pretty bad Face Of The Franchise.
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Happy 40th B-Day to Alex Rodriguez

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Pirates interested in Napoli and Victorino.
Red Sox, take whatever they offer even if they want you to send them 50mil as well.
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Machado wrote:Happy 40th B-Day to Alex Rodriguez

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I love how with all of his "natual ability" he's having his best season since he was 32. That cocksucker should have a lifetime ban.
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Facedown wrote:Pirates interested in Napoli and Victorino.
Red Sox, take whatever they offer even if they want you to send them 50mil as well.
:lol: Why? Those two would be horrible pickups for Pittsburgh.

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Nevermind :lol:

Angels acquire Victorino and cash for INF Josh Ruttledge. Boston recalls Castillo from AAA.
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killeverything wrote:
Machado wrote:Happy 40th B-Day to Alex Rodriguez

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I love how with all of his "natual ability" he's having his best season since he was 32. That cocksucker should have a lifetime ban.
Nah. The almost 2 years off did his body and mind a lot of good.

Where is Ryan Dempster now? LOL!!!

Arod is shutting up all the critics. He had 3 bombs the other night.

I bet David Ortiz is taking some extra PED's right now so he can extend
his career some more.
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Mets acquire Tyler Clippard and cash from Oakland for mil RHP Casey Meisnser.
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Machado wrote:
killeverything wrote:
Machado wrote:Happy 40th B-Day to Alex Rodriguez

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I love how with all of his "natual ability" he's having his best season since he was 32. That cocksucker should have a lifetime ban.
Nah. The almost 2 years off did his body and mind a lot of good.

Where is Ryan Dempster now? LOL!!!

Arod is shutting up all the critics. He had 3 bombs the other night.

I bet David Ortiz is taking some extra PED's right now so he can extend
his career some more.
I'll bet he is too.

Taking time
off
doesn't make you better.

Arod's actions should have
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killeverything wrote:Mets acquire Tyler Clippard and cash from Oakland for mil RHP Casey Meisnser.

The A's are the laughing stock of the league. They play in a Stadium
that is older than anybody else and they have a GM who is riding high
on the major motion picture that was made after him all those years ago.

If there is one team in MLB that needs to be relocated, please be the A's.
Even the Mets fans laugh at that team and city.
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killeverything wrote: Taking time
off
doesn't make you better.

Arod's actions should have
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Kill-Get over it. Your Sox from 10 or so years ago were just as guilty. Only a matter of getting caught now or later or having the Commish sweep that infractions under the rug.
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Was this the single best class of pitchers to go into the hall of fame in one year?
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Gritt wrote:Was this the single best class of pitchers to go into the hall of fame in one year?
Ummm maybe. Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, and Christy Matthewson went in together with the first class in 1936. There are some that believe the Cy should have been named for Matthewson, he was that good.
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Kill-Get over it. Your Sox from 10 or so years ago were just as guilty. Only a matter of getting caught now or later or having the Commish sweep that infractions under the rug.
That doesn't make it okay. Especially since the MLBPAA agreed to a new testing standard that he tried to sabotage. He should be banned. No one aside from Yankees fans like the guy.

How many were suspended from the 2004 team? Take your time.
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Next hall of question that I'll throw out for debate: best non-steroid pitcher not in the hall that should be? My vote is Jack Morris.
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Gritt wrote:Next hall of question that I'll throw out for debate: best non-steroid pitcher not in the hall that should be? My vote is Jack Morris.
That's a good question. I was never a Morris fan but I understand the debate. I believe Curt Schilling warrants consideration. His records are just below the minimum ( remember how awful the Astros and Philly were ), except if you factor in his post-season success it tilts in his favor.

That's kind of what would be the argument for Andy Pettite if he didn't use PEDs. Andy immediately admitted and apologized. That also might work in his favor.

Using the low win total because they played for awful teams. Bret Saberhagen makes a strong case for induction also.

The Mussina, Cone, ( possibly Morris ) and Tiant just miss the cut. Tiant was better than a few of some HOF pitchers. Something about him doesn't scream HOF'er. I dunno. :?


JC Ramirez acquired by Seattle.

Supposedly the Nats are close to getting Kimbrel from SD and TX leads for Hammels. Houston is going all out to land Cole too.

***Apparently the Dodgers let teams know Puig is available in the right deal.
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