killeverything wrote:You MFY fans should love this.....or be pissed by it.
Pavano gave up 9 runs in 1 inning yesterday against Texas.
did he really? that is wonderful. i love it. why would i be pissed at his
poor performance?
i have been working a lot of hours. barely had time to watch the Yankees games vs the o's.
have to check out pavano's box score now
C. Pavano (L, 0-1) 1.0 6 9 9 3 1 2 81.00
12 batters faced(2 hit home runs)
39 pitches
Byrd’s homer was a three-run shot that capped a five-run first off Carl Pavano (0-1), who made his first start for Cleveland after being a free-agent bust with the Yankees the past four seasons.
“I was trying to be aggressive and I let some pitches get away from me,” said Pavano who gave up nine runs pitching into the second. “That put me more in a defensive mode. It’s disappointing.”
When ballplayers die, Major League Baseball, its operatives and the media do everything possible to comfort us, to numb the pain and give purpose to the purposeless. Just as we were told when death struck Lyman Bostock and Mike Darr and Cory Lidle and Josh Hancock and dozens of other ballplayers, Nick Adenhart is surely in a better place right now, looking down from that big diamond in the sky and smiling in his own special way.
I don't want to hear it.
Adenhart, a young man with a limitless future, is dead because someone who was allegedly drunk decided to get behind the wheel. There is no happy ending; no silver lining; no neatly wrapped Little House on the Prairie conclusion. Life goes on, but not for Adenhart. He is gone, and no matter how many video tributes are played on scoreboards throughout the majors, he will not come back. The woman out there who he was supposed to one day marry will wed someone else. The children he was supposed to squire and raise will never exist. There will be no more birthdays or Christmases or gleeful nights at the ballpark. There will be no gracefully growing old. No grandkids. Nick Adenhart does not exist. He is dead. Forever.
This is the message -- as painful as burning flesh -- that needs to be told. And told. And told. And told. You drink, you drive, you risk extinguishing somebody's life. Period.
And yet where, exactly, is that message?
In the days leading up to Adenhart's death, New York was abuzz with tabloid headlines concerning Joba Chamberlain, the Yankee pitcher who had been arrested during the offseason for driving under the influence. The news, however, had little to do with the DUI and everything to do with the humiliating video of an intoxicated Chamberlain making jokes with police about Yogi Berra's height and New York City's abrasiveness. The newspapers had a field day -- JOBA WACKY! screamed Wednesday's New York Daily News cover, alongside the words, "Yankee star pokes fun at New York, Yogi after DUI bust."
Alcohol? Driving? Eh, no biggie. But to make fun of Yogi Berra ... now that's news.
I'm going to completely disagree with you Kill, I thought that article was bullshit in a "Captain Obvious" sort of way. No shit the tributes and videos and moments of silence aren't going to bring the guy back, and there is NEVER a happy ending. Even though those tributes are ostensibly for the deceased, aren't they really for everyone else? We're human beings posessing empathy and compassion and we grieve our losses; these things that MLB and ESPN and everyone else provide us are tangible things of something we will never understand. As for the "how many more Adenharts" question, IMO the answer is "as many as drunk drivers can kill" because this shit has been going on for years and we still don't fucking get it. It will happen again and we will mourn again and as misguided as our emotions may be, it's what we do.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:Of course your asshole is going to be sore when you volunteer for an asspounding and not set any boundaries at all.
WhiteHouseSubsAC wrote:I'm going to completely disagree with you Kill, I thought that article was bullshit in a "Captain Obvious" sort of way. No shit the tributes and videos and moments of silence aren't going to bring the guy back, and there is NEVER a happy ending. Even though those tributes are ostensibly for the deceased, aren't they really for everyone else? We're human beings posessing empathy and compassion and we grieve our losses; these things that MLB and ESPN and everyone else provide us are tangible things of something we will never understand. As for the "how many more Adenharts" question, IMO the answer is "as many as drunk drivers can kill" because this shit has been going on for years and we still don't fucking get it. It will happen again and we will mourn again and as misguided as our emotions may be, it's what we do.
I like the article for it's anger.
I understand your point about "Captain Obvious", etc. though. I like the anger at something so senseless, taking someone so young with so much potential. I personally didn't read too much into the "tributes, I don't wanna hear it" tone.
It just seemed sincere with the discontent to me. So I think it's well said in a "what the fuck?!?" way.
Oh well it is what it is. ( I've always hated that phrase, and now I got to use it too )
I post on an angels board (angelswin.com, best fucking Angels board out there! Through them I got the contacts that helped me do my retirement on the field last year) and there was a lot of hysterical reactions going on yesterday, and somebody mentioning how the book should be thrown at Joba so MLB can prove they are serious.
Hey, I have no problem with giving him the max under whatever rules applied when he got the DUI. I just think there should be no retroactive punishment because of what happened to Adenhart! If you want to change the rules now to make the fines stiffer, I'm fine with that. However, no "extras" for Joba.
i am fine with the May 15th date. i don't care if he feels great by May 1. no need to rush his return or jeopardize his health so early in the season.
get him at bats somewhere in the minors and back into game shape.
Alex Rodriguez is to resume baseball activities Monday, more than a month following hip surgery on March 9.
The third baseman has been working out in Vail, Colo., since the operation. The Yankees start a three-game series Monday at the AL champion Tampa Bay Rays, and Yankees manager Joe Girardi said the three-time AL MVP will resume swinging a bat after he reports to the team’s minor league complex.
Girardi said Friday that Rodriguez has been swinging a broom for the past few weeks and slowly increasing his workload. Girardi doesn’t expect Rodriguez to return to the Yankees before mid-May.
“In my mind, I’m still thinking May 15—five weeks away. That’s my thought process,” Girardi said before the Yankees helped Kansas City open renovated Kauffman Stadium on Friday.
“We expect him to be there on Monday and doing all baseball stuff, hitting, throwing, running, just continuing his rehab. So far it’s went very well and you just hope there’s no setbacks and he continues to progress.”
In Colorado, Rodriguez has also been lifting weights, riding a stationary bike, working out in a pool and performing range of motion drills.
“I believe he’s swung a broom handle, which is much different than a bat,” Girardi said. “I talked to him through a text just a couple of days ago. He’s excited,” Girardi said.
While swinging the broom handle, Girardi said, Rodriguez has been “hitting something. I’m not exactly sure what it was.”
Am I the only one who thinks Ellsbury has the most whack swing? I mean what the fuck? He looks absolutely horrible. His hips are flying out. His balance is way off. It looks like he is trying to fist every pitch he swings at into the outfield. When Ellsbury is hitting his lead foot comes out amnd he keeps his hips in and low. Magadan was saying something along the lines of he looks like he is more concerned with running out of the box than actually making contact.
I didn't see him much in ST, he looks terrible, and does not look like a MLB hitter. His 2 hits so far this year were a bunt and a weakly hit GB that he beat out. He did work the count a bit better yesterday, but if that swing does not get fixed, I am not very optimistic. Where of where did the 2007 Ellsbury go. His speed alone will add 75 points to his BA and OBP, so if he can just be an average hitter, he would hit 330 with a 400 OBP.
I've said it once I'll say it again. I didn't drink the kool-aid on him in 2007, I ain't sippin' it now. He has a lot of potential.....if he bats ninth.
Ellsbury has looked very good at times... others, not so much.
I'm not sure where I stand with that guy to be perfectly honest.... something tells me that he will be a pretty decent ML hitter, but never the superstar that people act like he will be.... like you say, his speed alone keep him afloat - he just needs to be average with the bat.
As a side note, watching last night's game was painful to watch...... I hated the Sox wearing those Spring Training looking jerseys and hats..... and, on the field, it looked like they were asleep.
The saving grace of last night's broadcast was REX HUDLER - he sat in the Sox booth for 2 innings.... I freaking LOVE listening to that guy..... I wish they would give him a show on XM's MLB Home Plate - that would rule!
BlairSurfInvasion wrote:The lesson here is that if you listen to hair metal in 2007 you are going to have to pay a price, and the currency is ridicule.
C.C. pitched a whole lot better today at the royals.
Swisher again came through with big hits today. Was late addition at 1B in place of Tex(late scratch w/sore wrist).
Swisher so far is making it very difficult for Girardi when he fills out the line-up card. Swisher is the type of player this team needs. He can help us win a lot of games with his play, power at the plate and intensity.
Joba makes his 1st start of '09 tomorrow. Looking forward to that.
Rainbow Bright wrote:Well....they're doing better than last year.
There doing about the same really. The MFY have been starting slow for about 4 years lately. I made a post about it, about 2-3 pages back dealing with Arod's projected ( at the time May 15th ) return. They're about where they were last year, then the year before that, etc.
I was looking forward to this matchup all damn week! Santana vs. Johnson, and they totally did not disappoint! Santana, apart from a rough 2nd inning was DEALING. K'd 13 batters. And JJ had a complete game, after surviving a close 9th inning. He was a stud as well. (and the first CG in the majors so far! LOL after we couldn't BUY a CG last year.) Just a great game to see.
At least we don't have to deal with the Mettards again until August. Good fucking God, they're obnoxious, (ok, not all) although some were good enough sports to shake hands and exchange high fives with us afterward.
Rainbow Bright wrote:Well....they're doing better than last year.
There doing about the same really. The MFY have been starting slow for about 4 years lately. I made a post about it, about 2-3 pages back dealing with Arod's projected ( at the time May 15th ) return. They're about where they were last year, then the year before that, etc.
Rainbow Bright wrote:Well....they're doing better than last year.
There doing about the same really. The MFY have been starting slow for about 4 years lately. I made a post about it, about 2-3 pages back dealing with Arod's projected ( at the time May 15th ) return. They're about where they were last year, then the year before that, etc.
Ok, what did everyone think about the brouhaha between the Angels and Sox today? I think the ump called time a wee bit too late, but it sure looked like the pitch was aimed at Abreu's dome. Whether it was intentional is hard to say.
That said, the umps in this series sucked balls in every game, and they did nothing to diffuse the situation. Abreu didn't even move towards Beckett, Beckett comes off the mound towards Abreu, and Abreu was the one warned. WTF?
I didn't get to see the game. I'll have to watch the highlights later. I wonder what that would've been about. Beckett is a hot-head, maybe he and Abreu had beef from their NL days. Or maybe it was Abreu's Yankee days.
I'll look around, if there's a beef it will come to light.
JakeYonkel wrote:Abreu is one of the most non-aggressive, apathetic baseball players I can think of. It was probably Beckett being a douchebag.
Of course, there is a lot of talk about this on the Angels boards. The main beef Scioscia had, which I think is legit, is that Abreu stepped out of the box but didn't move toward the mound, and he was warned. Beckett, however, came off the mound toward Abreu and wasn't warned or ejected. That was when the Angels came out of the dugout.
Joe West sucks balls. He could have kept the situation under wraps but he let it go. How no Red Sox were ejected is beyond me.
Beckett is a douche and the ump should be banished from baseball for that shit....four fucking Angels ejected and the piece of shit that caused everything basically gets the full support of the umpires for that shit?
Fuck him. Fuck Boston. Fuck MLB for not fixing that shit either.
GrayAntiMatter wrote:Beckett is a douche and the ump should be banished from baseball for that shit....four fucking Angels ejected and the piece of shit that caused everything basically gets the full support of the umpires for that shit?
Fuck him. Fuck Boston. Fuck MLB for not fixing that shit either.
GrayAntiMatter wrote:Beckett is a douche and the ump should be banished from baseball for that shit....four fucking Angels ejected and the piece of shit that caused everything basically gets the full support of the umpires for that shit?
Fuck him. Fuck Boston. Fuck MLB for not fixing that shit either.
low class move by beckett. no need to throw that ball at the head
of abreu.
beckett should be suspended for at least 5 games=he will miss 1 start.
beckett held the ball for 11 seconds. of course the batter will eventually ask for time. and if called before the pitcher throws, the batter should be granted time out.
joe west either has something against the angels or is biased towards
the red sox. not sure which is worse.
the intent to hit abreu was clear as day.
i heard what wilbon said and he was 110% accurate.
GrayAntiMatter wrote:Beckett is a douche and the ump should be banished from baseball for that shit....four fucking Angels ejected and the piece of shit that caused everything basically gets the full support of the umpires for that shit?
Fuck him. Fuck Boston. Fuck MLB for not fixing that shit either.
And yet...nothing will happen to Beckett or Joe West. Not a goddamn thing.
Nope. The one thing MLB won't do is admit mistakes. Abreu stepped out of the box, which should lead to an out. Kind of the reverse of a pitcher's balk. I think there was absolutely no reason to throw at his head. That was a "Clemens-esque" move.
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