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I'm old school I guess! MMA is just disturbing to me. I don't enjoy watching someone get their elbow hyperextended...it's freakin' nasty. I'd rather watch Pacquiao, Mayweather Jr., Williams, etc. Actually the Olympic fighters are really cool to watch too. MMA loses my attention once they get on the ground and grapple.

how often does that happen to an elbow in a fight?
Hardly ever.
These days I will take mma/ufc over boxing anyday of the week.
It's the natural progression of a violent sport.
Besides Dana White knows how to stage a night of fights that nobody in boxing can do, not even close.

I like boxing a lot more than I do MMA too. Unfortunately, boxing doesn't exist anymore.

bane wrote:I like boxing a lot more than I do MMA too. Unfortunately, boxing doesn't exist anymore.

This. 15 years ago boxing was the shit and I was smitten. Roy Jones Jr (my all time favorite), lennox, Holyfield, Bernard Hopkins......man it was an awesome time. But now???? There ain't shit out there to get excited about. Sad.

All the champions in boxing are negros or spics. Of course boxing is dying.

Don King killed boxing. It was great back in the days of Ali/Foreman/Frazier and Haggler/Leonard but King killed it.

The only boxer I still care about is Rocky Balboa. I'm hoping to see him in the ring at least a couple more times, he still has a lot of fight in him.

crabfan wrote:I'm old school I guess!

I do too. Unfortunately the sport I love is a goddamn mess.

MMA looks too gay. Rolling around all twined up with a guy and no shirt on is just....disturbing.

yeahbuddy wrote:how often does that happen to an elbow in a fight?
Hardly ever.
These days I will take mma/ufc over boxing anyday of the week.
It's the natural progression of a violent sport.
Besides Dana White knows how to stage a night of fights that nobody in boxing can do, not even close.

Your right,this is what boxing needs to do.
Instead of having 1 big fight,have 3 on
the one card.

I like both,but boxing wins.
A great boxing fight shits
all over a great MMA fight.
The sweet science will always have
that over MMA.

SkyDog112046 wrote:Don King killed boxing. It was great back in the days of Ali/Foreman/Frazier and Haggler/Leonard but King killed it.

Don King promoted all of those fights, dummy. Ali Foreman in Zaire never would happened if not for King. That fight probably never would have happened, he was the only one brilliant and crooked enough to put that thing together.

I don't care for MMA and I like boxing, but as mak said there just isn't anything interesting about it anymore. I used to watch fights all the time from about 1990-2000 those two boring Holyfield-Lewis fights and all those Tyson debacles were the end of that.

The sad thing about mma/ufc is that a fighter basically has 5 fights to make their mark, if they lose a couple of times within those fights, their career is over, or they become a journeyman that nobody cares about. Look at Keith Jardine. Frank Mir who is fighting this Saturday night has the same problem. If he loses, he is done. He could drop down a weightclass, but I think it would be too hard for him to stay at that lower weight.

Crazy Levi wrote:

SkyDog112046 wrote:Don King killed boxing. It was great back in the days of Ali/Foreman/Frazier and Haggler/Leonard but King killed it.

Don King promoted all of those fights, dummy. Ali Foreman in Zaire never would happened if not for King. That fight probably never would have happened, he was the only one brilliant and crooked enough to put that thing together.

Boxing was great in spite of Don King due to the quality of the fighters and the matches, but then King finally helped kill boxing with all his BS in the early 90's.

I don't buy it.

How exactly did King kill boxing? He put the fights together that people wanted to see for 30 years or so.

Yes I know he's a scumbag who fucked many boxers over...but again, how did he kill boxing?

If only Juggs was still here to educate us all with a 1,500 word purple essay.

I only really have interest in Pac fight these days. Back, when Nigel Benn, and Chris Eubank were fighting, I pretty much watched every single PPV there was, boxing was on tv every Saturday. Calzaghe and Hatton were OK, but I never felt either was truly great. When Roy Jones was in his prime, none of his fights were shown in the UK, I remember always hearing about him being compared to Sugar Ray and Ali, and then never ever seeing him, and having to buy video tapes to see his old fights. These days all the big fights are guys that would have been considered washed up in the past. Boxing is clinging on to names that were made 15-20 years ago. The heavyweight division died with Lewis retiring with the belts. The Klitchkos safe style just doesn't ignite the imaginations of Joe Public.

I absolutely love MMA, because outside of Fedor, the fights everyone wants to see, usually get made. The problem with the UFC is that they shut out the competition, which makes it difficult to promote other fighters from other organisations, so the depth of talent in each division seems small, since most people only really watch the UFC. It's kinda of unbelievable that so many fighters have had so many rematched. I think GSP is on his 7th rematch soon.

I am still pumped for seeing Pac vs. Mayweather, and once that fights done, boxing may be done too.

Crazy Levi wrote:I don't buy it.

How exactly did King kill boxing? He put the fights together that people wanted to see for 30 years or so.

Yes I know he's a scumbag who fucked many boxers over...but again, how did he kill boxing?

If only Juggs was still here to educate us all with a 1,500 word purple essay.

I agree with you, Don King may have screwed over fighters, and raised the price of PPVs, but his endless greed is what made all the big fights happen.

Crazy Levi wrote:I don't buy it.

How exactly did King kill boxing? He put the fights together that people wanted to see for 30 years or so.

Yes I know he's a scumbag who fucked many boxers over...but again, how did he kill boxing?

If only Juggs was still here to educate us all with a 1,500 word purple essay.

He screwed over boxers and screwed over viewers with fights that appeared fixed and matches that were shams that only took place to set up rematches. There were also fights that he stopped from happening because one of the boxers wasn't represented by him. By the mid-90's he turned boxing into a joke.

I'm with Makaveli on this one. I used to love to watch it, talk about the PPV all week long but now? I dunno, what goes up must come down.

One of my friends is a huge MMA fan but I'm not that into it.

To me, boxing became obsolete once MMA developed a legitimitae set of rules. Watching boxing is like watching a home run derby. It's an impressive skill, and it can be fun to watch, but it's really only one piece of a sport.

YYC wrote:To me, boxing became obsolete once MMA developed a legitimitae set of rules. Watching boxing is like watching a home run derby. It's an impressive skill, and it can be fun to watch, but it's really only one piece of a sport.

It isn't obselete. It's corrupt and has no focus. Don't think for a second the same people following MMA would have necessarily followed boxing. The demographic is as different as night and day.

I prefer MMA, but I love boxing too, as well as K1. I hate how people have the mindset that you can only like one form of combat sports.

YYC wrote:To me, boxing became obsolete once MMA developed a legitimitae set of rules. Watching boxing is like watching a home run derby. It's an impressive skill, and it can be fun to watch, but it's really only one piece of a sport.

MMA covers all disciplines adequately.
Boxing is one discipline covered at the highest level.

Every discipline is covered at the highest level in their own tournaments, boxing has been just more traditionally popular than anything else, but then again, that depends on where you live.

There is no telling which one is better, because on a street fight, it can go either way, but I rather be an MM artist than a boxer, if all i have to rely on are my fists with no ground or clinch game, I'm 90% done.

Bidokan wrote:
but I rather be an MM artist than a boxer,

"I" rather not be any kind of fighter. They all wind up retarded and broke.

YYC wrote:To me, boxing became obsolete once MMA developed a legitimitae set of rules. Watching boxing is like watching a home run derby. It's an impressive skill, and it can be fun to watch, but it's really only one piece of a sport.

Thats just silly

Until boxing gets truly unified and stops with all the alphabet soup sanctioning bodies, ridiculously overpaid fighters who don't fight anyone for their first 40 fights, and promoters who control the championships and fighters with an iron fist, I'll stick with mma. At least (for the most part) we get to see top ranked fighters fighting each other, true HONEST records, not padded by hand picked tomato cans, and NO DON KING.

nakedmadman wrote:Until boxing gets truly unified and stops with all the alphabet soup sanctioning bodies, ridiculously overpaid fighters who don't fight anyone for their first 40 fights, and promoters who control the championships and fighters with an iron fist, I'll stick with mma. At least (for the most part) we get to see top ranked fighters fighting each other, true HONEST records, not padded by hand picked tomato cans, and NO DON KING.

Good points.

mullet_head wrote:All the champions in boxing are negros or spics. Of course boxing is dying.

What the fuck are you talking about? The Klitschko brothers have dominated Heavyweight boxing for six years. Out of the top 15 ranked Heavyweight boxers there four eggplants and two beaners; the rest are all lily white. The WBA and IBF Middleweight belts are held by two Germans.

The reason boxing has taken a dip in popularity in the US is because there aren't many American boxers that are any good. The only country that MMA is popular is the US. And that's because it gives white trash a fantasy of athleticism that they never had before.

mullet_head wrote:All the champions in boxing are negros or spics. Of course boxing is dying.

Just like basketball and baseball?

SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:

mullet_head wrote:All the champions in boxing are negros or spics. Of course boxing is dying.

What the fuck are you talking about? The Klitschko brothers have dominated Heavyweight boxing for six years. Out of the top 15 ranked Heavyweight boxers there four eggplants and two beaners; the rest are all lily white. The WBA and IBF Middleweight belts are held by two Germans.

The reason boxing has taken a dip in popularity in the US is because there aren't many American boxers that are any good. The only country that MMA is popular is the US. And that's because it gives white trash a fantasy of athleticism that they never had before.

Except that most top level MMA fighters are from Brazil, Eastern Europe, and Canada.

And I guess you've never seen one of the MMA events in Japan that has 60,000 fans at it either.

I agree with your other points though.