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Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:01 am
by cormerdamus
Long time sludger, first time locker room visiter/poster.

Ok, so I'm now half way through 23 and I think it's about fucking time I did something about my state so a few months ago started doing the gym thing with some friends.

I've been taking no explode and stacking it as advised with cell mass. The Cell Mass container says you need to make sure you drink plenty of water because it sends more body water to your muscles, and if you don't drink enough to replenish the rest of your body, it will dehydrate you and eat away at your muscles, but doesn't go into detail about water amount.

I normally take 2 glasses right after, bring a bottle with me to the gym, drink atleast another 2 glasses that day, and drink atleast 3 glasses on my off days/cardio days. I still find this is making me nautious a few hours after taking it, is it because I'm not drinking enough and becoming dehydrated or is my body just not liking the cell mass? Searched online, couldn't find the answer.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:38 am
by mullet_head
Maybe you should stop wasting your money on bullshit and start focusing on the physical part of going to the gym.
You started a few months ago and you're worrying about cell mass and no explode and shit? Gimme a break.

Eat some real goddamm food and don't worry about buying a bunch of supplements until you`re benching like 200 for reps.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:56 am
by cormerdamus
mullet_head wrote:Maybe you should stop wasting your money on bullshit and start focusing on the physical part of going to the gym.
You started a few months ago and you're worrying about cell mass and no explode and shit? Gimme a break.

Eat some real goddamm food and don't worry about buying a bunch of supplements until you`re benching like 200 for reps.

I do, it's not like it's all suppliments. I do carb loads, eat healthier etc, but everyone I've talked to says cell mass is better to use when you first start working out, and then lay off it once you get close to the size you want.

Thats coming from two gym buffs I know, a health store manager, and the guy I got my gym membership off of. Im definately still focussing on the physical, I do actual work outs every other day, and cardio in between days for 45 minutes. Not trying to say you're wrong or anything, just going with what I've been told.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:51 pm
by mullet_head
Every beginner starts out by buying a shit load of supplements that they don“t really need. It's your money so do as you please, but when you're starting out you have the chance to take advantage of the so called "beginner gains".
A training program focused on steady progression and sensible nutrition is all you need, but what most noobs fail to do.
A protein shake here and there is fine and not that expensive but forget about every other shit out there for at least your first year or so.

Seriously, get yourself a good program, make a training log and focus on progression. I don't know what you're doing but since you seem to be interested in gaining mass "big beyond belief" is a great program for that. Google it.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:55 am
by cormerdamus
Thanks a bunch man, appreciate it and am googling it now.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:10 pm
by fret123
cormerdamus wrote:Long time sludger, first time locker room visiter/poster.

Ok, so I'm now half way through 23 and I think it's about fucking time I did something about my state so a few months ago started doing the gym thing with some friends.

I've been taking no explode and stacking it as advised with cell mass. The Cell Mass container says you need to make sure you drink plenty of water because it sends more body water to your muscles, and if you don't drink enough to replenish the rest of your body, it will dehydrate you and eat away at your muscles, but doesn't go into detail about water amount.

I normally take 2 glasses right after, bring a bottle with me to the gym, drink atleast another 2 glasses that day, and drink atleast 3 glasses on my off days/cardio days. I still find this is making me nautious a few hours after taking it, is it because I'm not drinking enough and becoming dehydrated or is my body just not liking the cell mass? Searched online, couldn't find the answer.

The reason you're feeling nauseous is because that shit is just LOADED
with sugars and food coloring and all sorts of other crap. Stay away from it and any of the other garbage like it. All you really need for supplements, (and I don't really recommend taking any supplements, I'll explain why later) is creatine, a simple nitric oxide stimulator (pills, not in a drink mix), amino acid pills, protein shakes and a testoterone booster. For the creatine...use whatever brand just as long as its a really fine grind. I mixed it just with water, stir it into a normal drinking glass of water and down it in one go like you would antacid powder. When training I would drink 1 teaspoon in the morning/early afternoon, 1 teaspoon while I was lifting, in the water bottle, and 1 teaspoon after...about 15 grams a day.
Amino acid tablets...same thing whatever brand and just take a few with each meal. For NO2..just use something like NITRIX caps or Muscletech NANO caps, again stay away from the drink mixes. The best testosterone booster I used was Testostrogain. And of course, protein shakes, whenever you can and however many you can stomach, especially right after a workout. When I used this combo and trained hard and ate well and ate a lot, I went from about 175 lbs to 210 pounds in about a year, so I believe that supplementing does work, but I have my doubts now that it is very beneficial, now that I have the perspective of being a few years older and not having used any supplements for the last 5 years or so. My body weight has now seemed to settle in about the 185-190 lb range and I look and feel much better than when I was a 210lb brute. I still work out a lot I might add.

First off, you said you're 23...how much do you weigh?, how tall are you?,
how serious are you about this?, how often do you work out?, what kind of poundage are you lifting, say on a bench press or squat? What is your goal? To be as big as possible or just to be lean and fit and muscular?
Because they're two different things. If you just want to be lean and muscular, I wouldn't use any supplements. Just eat clean and healthy, do tons of cardio, and lift heavy weights. But no matter what you do, you have to really kill yourself in the gym, lift as heavy as you possibly can, and increase the poundage as soon as you can lift it. Focus on and stick to heavy, mass building lifts like military shoulder presses, bench presses, squats, deadlifts and barbell curls. The way I did it was too do a couple of weeks of really heavy lifting, where I would use a poundage I could only lift for 2 or 3 reps, and do about 4 sets of that with long rests in between. I would do about 4 sets of 4 different exercises...so 16 sets total and about 32-48 lifts in total. So say for chest day...4 sets of flat bench press, 4 sets of pec-deck, 4 sets of flyes, and 4 sets of incline dumbell presses, 2 or 3 reps per set. Quick and simple. One body part per workout. And as soon as you are able to do more than 3 reps of anything...increase the weight, every time. It's the only way to gain and improve.

I would alternate that with two weeks of a little less weight, but more reps, about 6 or 8 reps per set, still 4 sets of 4 exercises...so 16 sets, but 96-128 reps total. Again one body part per workout, and again increase the weight as soon as you can do more than 6 or 8 reps.

I would always lift 2 days in a row, maybe 3 then take a day off, more if I needed it and a couple of days off after two weeks. Man I could go on and on, but the bottom line is, if you want to see results, you just have to train hard, and it will happen. If you don't, it won't. My personal experience with supplements is that I think they work to some degree, but not in a beneficial way. I wouldn't waste my money on them again, because I can lift nearly as much now as I ever did, and I look more defined and muscular than when I was bloated and beefy.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:17 pm
by MurrayFiend
Ugh, working out sounds like a drag. I'll just die at 55, thanks.

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:31 pm
by BozoMcMetal
None of those supps are FDA regulated, so there's no telling what's actually in them. All you really need is what the above poster said, save your money

Re: Question regarding CELL MASS

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:12 pm
by cormerdamus
First off, I haven't checked this actual thread in about a week so thank you to those who responded. I did get my answers via PM from mullet_head but to answer your questions for shits and giggles,

I am 23, don't know my EXACT height anymore but I'm roughly 5'7, 5'8.
I'm looking to beef up a decent chunk, and mostly tone. Basically, when I was younger I was huge. imagine being like 16 or 17 and being almost 200 lbs! I went on a big health food kick (and stopped stealing food from the mcdonalds I worked at), and went from almost 200 pounds, to 140. This was about 5-6 years ago. While I haven't been a fatty in years, I had that un bearable loose stomach anyone whos lost weight is familliar with and I want to basically fill that in/tone it down. I'd like to weigh 160 -170 or so, just muscle. Since I've been going to the gym, the loose skin is gone and since following mullet heads advice am seeing results immidiately. I can bench 130 which is 30 pounds more than when I started and I do actual lifting 4 days a week, but I go 5 days (one day is just cardio)

Juice heads would laugh at that, but it's the best shape I've been in ever so I'm happy. And as far as Murray's comment is concerned, thats why it took me so long to start going lol I've thought about it for a while and always come to that conclusion. I don't honestly know why I've had the change of heart, I think it's just because I'd like to be in good shape for atleast part of my life. Only live once right?

I would post before/after pics but I've learned better by watching the post a pic of yourself thread and besides, noone needs to see the before picture lol

And now that I'm back in college again, I've also given up pot for a while. Just to clear the mind and lungs and make it not a waste of money. It's gotten to the point where I don't get high and while it might just be in my head, I find it alot easier to work out now that it's out of my system.