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Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:34 am
by Crazy Levi
Kind of in line with the common thinking around here....
Daily News NFL columnist Gary Myers gives you his top-10 quarterbacks
1. Joe Montana
Joe Cool was 4-0 in Super Bowls with 11 TDs and 0 INTs and is clear No. 1 for now.
2. Tom Brady
One more Super Bowl victory and talk will start whether he's best ever.
3. Johnny Unitas
He has the titles, the numbers - he set the standard.
4. Dan Marino
He was a dominant player but Don Shula never gave him a defense or running game.
5. John Elway
Had the classic ending to a great career going out with back-to-back championships.
6. Peyton Manning
Just one Super Bowl victory and 9-10 playoff record cost him two or three spots.
7. Troy Aikman
He didn't put up huge numbers except one: 3-0 in the Super Bowl
8. Brett Favre
Is finally retiring and has all the records. Was 1-1 in Super Bowl.
9. Terry Bradshaw
Won four rings, but just one piece on Hall of Fame team.
10. Otto Graham
Three-time NFL champ and member of 75th anniversary team.
My list of the all-time greats starts with Montana and I think it takes two more rings by Brady to surpass the 49er great as best of all time. Tied at four, I still give the edge to Joe Cool.
However, if Brady gets that fourth ring on Feb. 6 in Dallas in Super Bowl XLV, then Brady backers will have a legitimate argument. If he gets a fifth ring - he's still in his prime years at 33 - the argument is over.
"He's a top five quarterback," said former Cowboys vice president Gil Brandt. "How far you want to push the envelope, I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, you could put him No. 1 and I wouldn't object."
Clearly, he has surpassed Peyton Manning, his main rival. For now, let's compare Montana and Brady, who have similar playing styles with very high football IQs.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... s_bes.html
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:38 am
by NeverSurrender
they all have one thing in common.
With the exception of Manning, the years these guys wons SBs, they all had great defenses.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:24 am
by johnk5150
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:59 am
by SkyDog112046
That list is pretty good. Montana is clearly #1 and in a class all by himself. All the other guys basically belong in groupings, and they seem to be pretty much where most people I know would rank them give or take a spot or two up or down.
The thing that makes rating QBs difficult is that the game has changed so much over the years. It's really hard to compare someone like Otto Graham to Bret Favre because of all the rule changes. I think football needs to be broken down by era when comparing the greats into something like Pre-SB era, Superbowl I - early 90's, and Salary Cap era. Maybe it needs even more refinement than that, but it's a starting point. So the early QBs are probably Unitas-Graham-Starr-Jurgenson-Gabriel. The 70's & 80's guys are Montana-Elway-Marino-Bradshaw-Staubach. And the modern QBs would go something like Brady-Manning-Favre-Aikman and then probably Warner or Brees.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:04 am
by Machado
clearly this daily news reporter is having a love affair
with Manning.
no way Manning should be ahead Aikman.
Troy was 3-0 in The Super Bowl.
Manning can not say that.
Montana has to be #1. Someday Brady could take that spot, but he will have to win at least 2 more SB's to earn the #1 spot.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:07 am
by HMJ
1. Jim McMahon
Super Bowl ring & pure entertainment value. Miss that dude.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:30 am
by WTF
Machado wrote:clearly this daily news reporter is having a love affair
with Manning.
no way Manning should be ahead Aikman.
Troy was 3-0 in The Super Bowl.
Manning can not say that.
Montana has to be #1. Someday Brady could take that spot, but he will have to win at least 2 more SB's to earn the #1 spot.
Troy Aikman winning 3 SBs doesn't make him a better QB than Manning. As much as I hate Pee13, Manning is clearly a better QB than Aikman was, except for the playoffs. Do you think Terry Bradshaw, as great as he was, should be higher than Manning?
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:35 am
by johnk5150
HMJ wrote:1. Jim McMahon
Super Bowl ring & pure entertainment value. Miss that dude.
The guy was pulled over and blew a .31 like two days before he was supposed to start representing the state of Illinois regarding highway safety. All those Bears could drink. Kevin Butler had 3 DUIs in the CITY. Do you know what you have to do to even be pulled over in downtown Chicago?
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:52 am
by HMJ
johnk5150 wrote:HMJ wrote:1. Jim McMahon
Super Bowl ring & pure entertainment value. Miss that dude.
The guy was pulled over and blew a .31 like two days before he was supposed to start representing the state of Illinois regarding highway safety. All those Bears could drink. Kevin Butler had 3 DUIs in the CITY. Do you know what you have to do to even be pulled over in downtown Chicago?
You are re-emphasizing my original point. God damn. Great team.
My other lifetime favorite:
Mr. Bobby Hebert. Pure class.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:56 am
by Machado
WTF wrote:Machado wrote:clearly this daily news reporter is having a love affair
with Manning.
no way Manning should be ahead Aikman.
Troy was 3-0 in The Super Bowl.
Manning can not say that.
Montana has to be #1. Someday Brady could take that spot, but he will have to win at least 2 more SB's to earn the #1 spot.
Troy Aikman winning 3 SBs doesn't make him a better QB than Manning. As much as I hate Pee13, Manning is clearly a better QB than Aikman was, except for the playoffs. Do you think Terry Bradshaw, as great as he was, should be higher than Manning?
**except for the playoffs**
well aren't the playoffs and how many times a QB wins factor into the equation?
IMO, Bradshaw is better than Manning
4-0 in the SB kid. i dislike the steelers and i still have to give Bradshaw credit for being a winner
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:59 am
by LetUsPrey
poizond13 wrote:When it's all said done, Peyton Manning will be the undisputed greatest of all time.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:00 pm
by NeverSurrender
johnk5150 wrote:HMJ wrote:1. Jim McMahon
Super Bowl ring & pure entertainment value. Miss that dude.
The guy was pulled over and blew a .31 like two days before he was supposed to start representing the state of Illinois regarding highway safety. All those Bears could drink. Kevin Butler had 3 DUIs in the CITY. Do you know what you have to do to even be pulled over in downtown Chicago?
In the town i live in. He had a home 20 miles west of the bar he was at. he was headig home but he was arrested 10 miles east of the bar.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:22 pm
by St_Augustines_Pears
Aikman and Bradshaw should be ranked higher than Manning.
And where the fuck is Bart Starr?
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:01 am
by johnk5150
NeverSurrender wrote:johnk5150 wrote:HMJ wrote:1. Jim McMahon
Super Bowl ring & pure entertainment value. Miss that dude.
The guy was pulled over and blew a .31 like two days before he was supposed to start representing the state of Illinois regarding highway safety. All those Bears could drink. Kevin Butler had 3 DUIs in the CITY. Do you know what you have to do to even be pulled over in downtown Chicago?
In the town i live in. He had a home 20 miles west of the bar he was at. he was headig home but he was arrested 10 miles east of the bar.
Classic. My wife was waiting tables at Kincaids when Bob Avelini was cut off. He became all beligerent screming he'd be back. He stumbled out of the bar, grabbed a golf club from his car and promptly smashed the front windows out of McGees 4 blocks north of the place that cut him off.
Granted the bars look similar (I suppose), but that's kind of scary knowing guys are out driving around that fucked up.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:57 am
by Machado
St_Augustines_Pears wrote:Aikman and Bradshaw should be ranked higher than Manning.
And where the fuck is Bart Starr?
Tell me about it.
The media is in love with Manning, even though his stats in the playoffs are less than .500 and in seven of his 11 playoff seasons, he's been gone after one game
No excuse to have both Bradshaw and Aikman ranked lower than Manning.
Re: Daily News' Meyers picks top 10 QBs of all time
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:08 am
by bane
WTF wrote:
Troy Aikman winning 3 SBs doesn't make him a better QB than Manning. As much as I hate Pee13, Manning is clearly a better QB than Aikman was, except for the playoffs.
I agree. That list is pretty close, but I think Aikman is over ranked there. Aikman was a very good QB, but he's one of those "the sum is better than the parts" guys IMO. I'd say the same for Bradshaw. I can think of two or three guys that aren't on that list at all that I think should rank higher.