Which league has the worst recent expansion teams?

FullDJacket · Post by **FullDJacket** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:18 am

NBA
Charlotte Bobcats
Memphis Grizzlies

NFL
Houston Texans
Baltimore Ravens

NHL
Columbus Blue Jackets
Minnesota Wild

MLB
Arizona Diamondbacks
Tampa Bay Rays

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:27 am

Gotta be the NBA

BozoMcMetal · Post by **BozoMcMetal** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:36 am

Tommy wrote:Gotta be the NBA

With the NHL a close second.

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:42 am

BozoMcMetal wrote:
Tommy wrote:Gotta be the NBA
With the NHL a close second.

Agreed.

Though actually his NFL teams should be the Cleveland Browns and Texans. Baltimore WAS the Browns, so technically they moved, and are not an expansion team.

Now when you have the Texans who have never made the playoffs and Cleveland who has made it once since they came back, the NFL looks pretty bad.

FullDJacket · Post by **FullDJacket** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:56 am

Tommy wrote:
BozoMcMetal wrote:
Tommy wrote:Gotta be the NBA
With the NHL a close second.

Agreed.

Though actually his NFL teams should be the Cleveland Browns and Texans. Baltimore WAS the Browns, so technically they moved, and are not an expansion team.

Yea sorry. That mess is confusing to say the least.

I also included the Memphis Grizzlies even though they started out in Vancouver.

SkyDog112046 · Post by **SkyDog112046** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:39 am

The Ravens aren't an expansion team. The established Browns moved from Cleveland to Baltimore and changed their name. The current Browns are really the expansion team. Cleveland and Texas haven't won shit since they joined the league. Just to put it in perspective. The MLB teams have been the best recent expansion teams.

I guess I'm going with the NBA as the worst. Charlotte sucks, and Memphis is just now getting decent. The two NHL franchises haven't done much either. Hockey has to have a serious look at contraction.

ParaDime77 · Post by **ParaDime77** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:13 am

NHL.

Atlanta and Phoenix dumping their teams. Also, oddball hockey towns like Columbus and Nashville.

Garbageman · Post by **Garbageman** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:21 am

Obviously, the UFL.

KillDevilHill · Post by **KillDevilHill** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:01 pm

How are the former super bowl champions, the Baltimore ravens, a shitty expansion team

LAglamrocker · Post by **LAglamrocker** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:05 pm

was Arizona the fastest expansion team to win the World Series?, i dont even like MLB so much but that World Series was great

Kid-Wicked · Post by **Kid-Wicked** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:52 pm

the nhl started with 6 teams.

so just based on that.......

johnk5150 · Post by **johnk5150** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:31 am

Cubs are probably the worst since becoming an expansion team in 1903.

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:34 pm

SkyDog112046 wrote:Charlotte sucks

There shouldn't be a Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody here was clamoring for the NBA to come back to town, other than a handful of diehards.

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:57 am

Tenacious_Dio wrote:
SkyDog112046 wrote:Charlotte sucks
There shouldn't be a Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody here was clamoring for the NBA to come back to town, other than a handful of diehards.

See, the leagues confuse NCAA and pro. You've got Duke and NC so therefore the NBA will work. Silly.

However, the fact that the NHL doesn't have a team in Wisconsin is criminal. An NHL team in Milwaukee would force the Bucks to move, no doubt in my mind.

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:51 am

Tommy wrote:See, the leagues confuse NCAA and pro. You've got Duke and NC so therefore the NBA will work. Silly.

The NBA did work here for a long time. It was killed by bad ownership. And the arrival of the Carolina Panthers didn't help them. If the NBA had still been the only game in town, the city would've held their noses and built George Shinn his new arena.

Kid-Wicked · Post by **Kid-Wicked** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:20 am

Tommy wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:
SkyDog112046 wrote:Charlotte sucks
There shouldn't be a Charlotte Bobcats. Nobody here was clamoring for the NBA to come back to town, other than a handful of diehards.

See, the leagues confuse NCAA and pro. You've got Duke and NC so therefore the NBA will work. Silly.

However, the fact that the NHL doesn't have a team in Wisconsin is criminal. An NHL team in Milwaukee would force the Bucks to move, no doubt in my mind.

is milwaukee a hockey market?would they support a team? they never get talked aboot when relocation comes up. how big is the rink?

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:22 am

ParaDime77 wrote:NHL.

Atlanta and Phoenix dumping their teams. Also, oddball hockey towns like Columbus and Nashville.

The Yotes aren't an expansion team and they haven't been dumped.

ParaDime77 · Post by **ParaDime77** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:18 pm

NeverSurrender wrote:
ParaDime77 wrote:NHL.

Atlanta and Phoenix dumping their teams. Also, oddball hockey towns like Columbus and Nashville.
The Yotes aren't an expansion team and they haven't been dumped.

Yotes? Get outta town man!

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:18 pm

ParaDime77 wrote:
NeverSurrender wrote:
ParaDime77 wrote:NHL.

Atlanta and Phoenix dumping their teams. Also, oddball hockey towns like Columbus and Nashville.
The Yotes aren't an expansion team and they haven't been dumped.
Yotes? Get outta town man!

I'm not in that town.

FullDJacket · Post by **FullDJacket** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:42 am

I thought maybe this NBA season answered this question. Bobcats on a 14 game losing streak and Memphis has 14 to 14...

NeverSurrender · Post by **NeverSurrender** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:05 am

ParaDime77 wrote:NHL.

Atlanta and Phoenix dumping their teams. Also, oddball hockey towns like Columbus and Nashville.

nashville has a great franchise. They are a cap floor team that spends it's money well, and are competitive.

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:46 am

FullDJacket wrote:Bobcats on a 14 game losing streak

The funny thing is that the Bobcats made the playoffs in 2010. Then, after getting swept by Orlando in the first round, they said "Okay, we've made our run. Time to rebuild."

FullDJacket · Post by **FullDJacket** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:08 am

Tenacious_Dio wrote:
FullDJacket wrote:Bobcats on a 14 game losing streak
The funny thing is that the Bobcats made the playoffs in 2010. Then, after getting swept by Orlando in the first round, they said "Okay, we've made our run. Time to rebuild."

That's funny.

Reminds me of Oakland Athletics in Moneyball. They had to rebuild after one good year

pieceofme · Post by **pieceofme** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:45 pm

By worst I assume you mean worst performing, because not having a hockey team in Minnesota is madness. As far I know,they have the longest streak of selling out home games in the entire NHL. That could have changed recently but there is still a high demand in this market.

MurrayFiend · Post by **MurrayFiend** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:04 pm

The D-Backs made the playoffs in their second year and won it all in their fourth! Pretty damn good.

poizond13 · Post by **poizond13** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:20 pm

NFL: Texans. Took them ten years to have a half decent season.

HeavyMetalZombie666 · Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:34 pm

Colorado Rockies obsessing is just vomit inducing. Too many fans here just because they live 5 hours away from Denver and on top of that they never take into consideration that there were teams before the Rockies showed up.

Clovis Died · Post by **Clovis Died** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:11 am

NBA. Solely because of the Bobcats. They should merge New Orleans/Charlotte and move them to Vegas or KC.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:49 am

Clovis Died wrote:NBA. Solely because of the Bobcats. They should merge New Orleans/Charlotte and move them to Vegas or KC.

Seattle. And then flip Memphis to the Eastern Conference.

Maalsa · Post by **Maalsa** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:30 pm

Fuck OKC and the Zombie Sonics... someone should bomb those assholes again for lying and kidnapping a team.

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