Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:20 pm
Only 304 yards to go to beat Dan Marino's single season record!
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Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:10 pm
He is fucking amazing this year. Good for him.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:25 pm
And what's more, he could do it in the third quarter of week 16. Unreal.exitflagger wrote:Only 304 yards to go to beat Dan Marino's single season record!
What's also crazy is that you could make a solid argument that Rodgers is having a better season than him (if you factor in the insane TD/int ratio) and Brady isn't that far off...
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:30 pm
impressve but I'd still take Marino's 84' over what any of these guys are doing in the more pussified protect the QB at all cost NFL of today.
It says alot when 4 guys in the same season will approach or pass a record that stood for 27 years. Marino did it in his 2nd season, in a much tougher era. I'd love to see what a prime Marino would do in todays offensive friendly League, I'm guessing 5500 50+ TD's easily. no knock on brees of course, he's been unreal this year. but it is what it is.
It says alot when 4 guys in the same season will approach or pass a record that stood for 27 years. Marino did it in his 2nd season, in a much tougher era. I'd love to see what a prime Marino would do in todays offensive friendly League, I'm guessing 5500 50+ TD's easily. no knock on brees of course, he's been unreal this year. but it is what it is.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:17 am
Amazing to think that San Diego let Brees go. Not that Rivers sucks, but...
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:42 pm
And Tomlinson, Sproles, Turner, and Marty Schotenheimer when he went 14-2WTF wrote:Amazing to think that San Diego let Brees go. Not that Rivers sucks, but...
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:34 pm
Clovis Died wrote:And Tomlinson, Sproles, Turner, and Marty Schotenheimer when he went 14-2WTF wrote:Amazing to think that San Diego let Brees go. Not that Rivers sucks, but...
As a Chargers fan, I didn't have a problem with them letting Marty go. What I DID have a problem with was bringing in Norv effing Turner to replace him.
But yeah, letting go of Sproles hurt. LT, not so much - he was already fading, better to let go one year too soon than one year too late.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:33 pm
Losing Sproles was a shame. Getting rid of LT was fine. It was time. Matthews COULD be a top 5 back in a year or two, but the jury is most definitely out. I suspect in some respects losing Turner was a great shame, but LT was still too close to his peak at that point so there was really nothing else they could have done.tin00can wrote:Clovis Died wrote:And Tomlinson, Sproles, Turner, and Marty Schotenheimer when he went 14-2WTF wrote:Amazing to think that San Diego let Brees go. Not that Rivers sucks, but...
As a Chargers fan, I didn't have a problem with them letting Marty go. What I DID have a problem with was bringing in Norv effing Turner to replace him.
But yeah, letting go of Sproles hurt. LT, not so much - he was already fading, better to let go one year too soon than one year too late.
And hell, even Brees, who'd really only had a couple of top notch seasons at that point, wasn't a completely stupid move (at the time anyway) - given they'd obviously accurately assessed Rivers' potential. Rivers first four full seasons in SD were more impressive than what Brees did with SD. However, putting Brees out on the field to get injured when they did was stupid, and hindsight tells us what might have been.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:25 pm
Loves me some Breesus, but you have to wonder if Marino and Elway could throw for 6000+ yards in today's league where you can't hit receivers and the QB is a sacred cow.exitflagger wrote:Only 304 yards to go to beat Dan Marino's single season record!
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:32 pm
Yeah, dtmfs already pissed on the parade with that one but thanks for the reprise.johnk5150 wrote:Loves me some Breesus, but you have to wonder if Marino and Elway could throw for 6000+ yards in today's league where you can't hit receivers and the QB is a sacred cow.exitflagger wrote:Only 304 yards to go to beat Dan Marino's single season record!
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:49 pm
Pissed on the parade by stating the obvious??, Hey more power to Brees but it is what it is, a more pussified league, those are just the facts.exitflagger wrote: Yeah, dtmfs already pissed on the parade with that one but thanks for the reprise.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:08 pm
Did somebody say something? I couldn't hear over the roar of the Superdome crowd.
Record achieved in 15 games! Suck it, Marino!
Record achieved in 15 games! Suck it, Marino!
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:12 pm
Congrats to a classy QB, maybe some of those fans can hear that.exitflagger wrote:Did somebody say something? I couldn't hear over the roar of the Superdome crowd.
Record achieved in 15 games! Suck it, Marino!
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:17 pm
MNF had an interesting stat showing that Brees' average yards per game beyond everyone else exceeds Marino's during his record season.dtmfs wrote:Pissed on the parade by stating the obvious??, Hey more power to Brees but it is what it is, a more pussified league, those are just the facts.exitflagger wrote: Yeah, dtmfs already pissed on the parade with that one but thanks for the reprise.
Grading on a curve and Brees still wins it.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:26 pm
True, but Brees is also further clear of the league average this season than Marino was in his record-setting year. Not that it really matters. Marino/Fouts also had things in their favour compared to Unitas and so forth... None of this diminishes Brees' achievement IMO. Nor does Brees' achievement diminish Marino's.dtmfs wrote:Pissed on the parade by stating the obvious??, Hey more power to Brees but it is what it is, a more pussified league, those are just the facts.exitflagger wrote: Yeah, dtmfs already pissed on the parade with that one but thanks for the reprise.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:33 pm
I knew I should have sold my whole Marino, Dolphins Undefeated season collection. Might as well haul it to the trash since it's about to become worthless!
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:27 am
I'd be interested in seeing those stats, because if you compare the top QB's of both seasons, Brees doesn't seem as dominant:Crazy Levi wrote: MNF had an interesting stat showing that Brees' average yards per game beyond everyone else exceeds Marino's during his record season.
1984
Dan Marino 317.5 yards per game
Neil Lomax 288 yards per game
Phil Simms 253 yards per game.
2011
Drew Brees 339 yards per game
Tom Brady 326 yards per game
Aaron Rodgers 309 yards per game
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:35 am
You are seriously trying to fucking compare fucking Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers with Neil fucking Lomax and Phil Simms?Tenacious_Dio wrote:I'd be interested in seeing those stats, because if you compare the top QB's of both seasons, Brees doesn't seem as dominant:Crazy Levi wrote: MNF had an interesting stat showing that Brees' average yards per game beyond everyone else exceeds Marino's during his record season.
1984
Dan Marino 317.5 yards per game
Neil Lomax 288 yards per game
Phil Simms 253 yards per game.
2011
Drew Brees 339 yards per game
Tom Brady 326 yards per game
Aaron Rodgers 309 yards per game
Holy fucking Christ.
The fact that Brees beat out Brady and Rodgers says a lot more for him than beating out Lomax and Simms does for Marino, regardless of the margin.
And Brees AVERAGE margin over the rest of league is about the same as Marinos' was against his contemporaries, that's the point.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:46 am
Nope. Just addressing this:Crazy Levi wrote:You are seriously trying to fucking compare fucking Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers with Neil fucking Lomax and Phil Simms?
It either exceeds it or it doesn't. I'm only questioning the stat, not Brees' greatness.MNF had an interesting stat showing that Brees' average yards per game beyond everyone else exceeds Marino's during his record season.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:28 am
Right. But you chose to compare only the top three QBs.Tenacious_Dio wrote:Nope. Just addressing this:Crazy Levi wrote:You are seriously trying to fucking compare fucking Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers with Neil fucking Lomax and Phil Simms?
It either exceeds it or it doesn't. I'm only questioning the stat, not Brees' greatness.MNF had an interesting stat showing that Brees' average yards per game beyond everyone else exceeds Marino's during his record season.
I'm talking about the entire league. Brees' average per game is about the same vs. the ENTIRE LEAGUE as Marinos' were back in the day. That's a far more relevant comparison.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:36 am
Man, Neil Lomax. When do you think that guy's name was last mentioned on a message board.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:46 am
Okay. I thought you said that it was more. Maybe I misunderstood. No big deal. The oddest thing about all of this is that if SF rolls St. Louis, Brees could be parked by halftime. And Brady could end up with the record.Crazy Levi wrote:And Brees AVERAGE margin over the rest of league is about the same as Marinos' was against his contemporaries, that's the point.
Now I don't know if they'll do that or not. But if I'm Sean Payton, and I'm not playing for anything, I'm not taking any chances.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:04 pm
This will make Sunday very fun (and not just because I'll still be drunk from Saturday) fun for all the wrong football reasons.Tenacious_Dio wrote:Okay. I thought you said that it was more. Maybe I misunderstood. No big deal. The oddest thing about all of this is that if SF rolls St. Louis, Brees could be parked by halftime. And Brady could end up with the record.Crazy Levi wrote:And Brees AVERAGE margin over the rest of league is about the same as Marinos' was against his contemporaries, that's the point.
Now I don't know if they'll do that or not. But if I'm Sean Payton, and I'm not playing for anything, I'm not taking any chances.
Re: Countdown to Drew Brees Passing Record
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:16 pm
I still say Marino's 84' was more impressive for a couple reasons.
1. of course, the rules were much tougher, WR's were mugged and Qb's not coddled.
2.It was his fucking second season and first full time season even though the year prior he was the first ever rookie QB to start the pro bowl, a dude doing that in his second season was unthinkable hence all the Marinomania that ensued, no one seen anything like it before.
Now I'm not pissing on Brees' parade, in this era and with tom Brady 188 yards away from Marinos mark himself, it just dosent seem so special, it's highly unlikley but possible that Brady actually overtakes Brees in the final game.
And props to both Marino and Brees for being classy as fuck that night, Marino tweeted his congrats and praised him, and Brees thanked Dan for being the inspiration for QB's to follow.
Sure beats the hell out of idiots who slagging both guys, some dumbfucks, including an actual spotrswriter thinks there should be an astrisk next to brees' record
1. of course, the rules were much tougher, WR's were mugged and Qb's not coddled.
2.It was his fucking second season and first full time season even though the year prior he was the first ever rookie QB to start the pro bowl, a dude doing that in his second season was unthinkable hence all the Marinomania that ensued, no one seen anything like it before.
Now I'm not pissing on Brees' parade, in this era and with tom Brady 188 yards away from Marinos mark himself, it just dosent seem so special, it's highly unlikley but possible that Brady actually overtakes Brees in the final game.
And props to both Marino and Brees for being classy as fuck that night, Marino tweeted his congrats and praised him, and Brees thanked Dan for being the inspiration for QB's to follow.
Sure beats the hell out of idiots who slagging both guys, some dumbfucks, including an actual spotrswriter thinks there should be an astrisk next to brees' record