Peyton Manning: Next New York Jets or Washington Redskins QB

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

Peyton Manning: Irsay, not Grigson, will decide his future with Colts


11:01 AM, Jan. 24, 2012



Sorry, Rob Lowe.

Peyton Manning is not retiring, at least not any time soon.

"I never thought 'Sodapop Curtis' would announce my retirement," Manning said, laughing, referring to Lowe’s character in the 1983 movie "The Outsiders." "I always thought I would be the one to announce it. I'm a huge fan of the movie, but that caught me way off guard. I can't explain it. I know he (Lowe) is a friend of Jim's (Irsay), and Jim sounded surprised."

So no, Manning isn't on the cusp of retirement. In a wide-ranging, exclusive interview with The Star on Monday night, the Colts' future Hall of Fame quarterback addressed a number of pressing topics, including his health, his sadness over the firings of several coaches, his minimal relationship with new general manager Ryan Grigson and the future.

For the record, Manning and Grigson finally met, briefly, last week when the two ran across each other in the facility.

"One thing he (Grigson) kind-of, sort-of told me, without really wanting to tell me, was that Irsay will be the guy I'm going to sit down and talk with," Manning said. "That's going to happen at some point, but we haven't had that conversation yet because we really don't need to have that conversation yet."

Aside from Eli Manning's victory in the NFC title game in San Francisco, where Peyton was present to celebrate with his brother, this has been a rough week for Peyton --- and for a lot of the people who've made this one of the most successful organizations in sports over the years. Change is never easy.

"I'm not in a very good place for healing, let's say that," he said, referring to the practice facility. "It's not a real good environment down there right now, to say the least. Everybody's walking around on eggshells. I don't recognize our building right now. There's such complete and total change."

Manning didn't express anger about the firing of Jim Caldwell and so many assistant coaches as much as he expressed sadness, wistfulness even.

He was working out with strength and conditioning coach Jon Torine last week when word came down that Torine had been relieved of his duties. One day later, after Torine had cleaned out his office, he ran Manning one more time, for old time's sake.

"It was tough," Manning said. "Very emotional."

It's been difficult with all the coaches, many of whom have been with Manning since the beginning, or at least close to it. This franchise has been a model of stability and continuity; now it's all about change. When Manning hasn't been rehabilitating, he's been calling other franchises and offering recommendations on behalf of the departed coaches.

"One of the things about football is, it's a relationship business," Manning said. "Sometimes guys get fired, it goes across the ticker, 'Jim Caldwell got fired' and that's that. But when it's every day in a relationship business ... with Bill (Polian), with Marvin (Harrison), Edge (James), guys who retire, get cut, traded or fired, it's just really hard. I don’t think I have an emotion for it.

"The new (management) team doesn't have a relationship with these guys like I do, and I know a lot of players feel that way about them (the departing coaches), too."

He continued:

"I mean, it's 20 degrees, it's snowing, the building is absolutely empty except when you see coaches cleaning out their offices," he said. "I guess it's the reality of the football world, just not something I've had to deal with very often. But I'm in there every day, so I have to sit there and see it. Everybody's being evaluated and I'm no different. It's not the best environment.

"I just want to pay tribute to all those guys. It's unfortunate because so many of them have been such a big part of so many big wins here, and this is so ... sudden. Their keys didn't work the next day. There's no other way to do it? I don’t know. That's hard to see, all these people leaving.

"And I may be behind them. Who knows?"

The question was posed: Given all the changes, the fact the Colts appear to be in a rebuilding mode, does Manning even want to come back to Indianapolis?

"I don't want to get into some kind of fan campaign with the owner, but I think it's well documented that I want to play in the same place my whole career," Manning said. "It's been a privilege to play here. I love the fans, the city, the transformation of the fans, how our place has become the toughest stadium to play in, the fact our fans wear more jerseys to games than anybody else. It's been fun to be a part of that.

"But I understand how it works. I understand tough decisions have to be made. There's personal and there's business and that's where we’ve got to separate the two. I've seen other guys leave places and it was personal. I've invested too much into this city for that to happen. We live here, we've given lots of time and money to the community and our church, and that's never going to change Nothing changes that.

"Whatever happens, happens. I can't give you a prediction because Jim (Irsay) and I will sit down at some point and he'll get a feel for where I am and I’ll get a sense of what direction he wants to go. Right now, I have no idea."

As for Manning’s health, he's not all the way back yet, but he's not going to put any kinds of percentages on his recovery, nor will he predict whether he'll be at full strength by early March, when the $28 million option bonus is due. At this point, he just doesn't know.

"You've been around me: You know I don't like to say something like, 'There’s no way I can play Sunday,' then come out and play Sunday and everybody in the media is writing 'I can’t believe he’s playing,'" Manning said. "I'm not into the drama. And I'm not into saying, 'Well, this is it, I sure have enjoyed it.' I'm not into saying goodbye. All I know is I'm still under contract to the Colts. I'm still the quarterback of the Colts That's why I'm in the building every day trying to get healthy."

Manning continues to work out daily and throw to his beloved and overworked equipment guys, but this past Sunday, he got out of the facility. After watching the first two Giants' playoff games from the workout room, Peyton decided to surprise Eli and show up Sunday in San Francisco.

I asked if he told Eli it was his job to protect his Lucas Oil Stadium turf from the hated Patriots.

He laughed.

"Well, I've already gone to work for him, getting all my teammates, trying to get their two-ticket allotments," Manning said. "That's what he did for me two years ago and I did that for him four years ago. And I'm helping any way I can, getting him restaurant reservations around town for him and his teammates. Jim (Irsay) called after the game and offered any kind of help he could give, which was generous.

“As far as helping him with the Patriots, really, he doesn't need to talk to me. He played them seven weeks ago. We'll talk about things they do when you face them a second time in the same year, but he knows them better than I do right now.

"It was fun Sunday, we talked about third and long situations, the defense San Francisco likes to play. They’ve got (former Colts defensive coordinator) Vic Fangio, and we were saying, 'In this situation, they run this particular coverage, three rushing and eight in coverage, and there are only certain places you can throw it.' I didn't tell him to throw that post route on the touchdown, but that was the kind of defense he was seeing. So it's kind of fun to talk about that stuff.’"

Now, then, Manning will try to enjoy the Super Bowl madness, will continue to work out at the facility (until the team is kicked out to make way for the, gag, Patriots) and wait to see what unfolds in the front office. If and when the Colts are ready to talk --- likely in February --- Manning will be easy to find.

"I'm in the facility every day," he said. "I'm right there. They know where to find me."
When it's time to make an announcement one way or the other, Manning hopes he can do it on his own terms.

"Hopefully, Sodapop Curtis doesn't tweet it before I can say anything," he said.


http://www.indystar.com/article/2012012 ... dyStar.com

[Crazy Levi]

Manning is being much more realistic and mature about this than p-13.

He's going to look great in Jet Green and Jersey sales will be through the roof!

[Tommy]

Manning is being much more realistic and mature about this than p-13.

He's going to look great in Jet Green and Jersey sales will be through the roof!

Jersey sales will be ridiculous if he comes here. Twice what Favre did.

[MurrayFiend]

I think he should go to the Dolphins.

[ParaDime77]

Does Jeff Saturday become part of the package wherever Manning goes??

[LAglamrocker]

stay out of Denver, your not wanted

[killeverything]

Yeah, the Broncos already has an overated QB.

[LAglamrocker]

overrated? HATE HATE AFC West Champ QB, media sensation, new face of NFL

[eddie lee roth]

Manning is being much more realistic and mature about this than p-13.

I think it helps that he's a man.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

overrated? HATE HATE AFC West Champ QB, media sensation, new face of NFL

Shut the fuck up mong.

[dtmfs]

I think he should go to the Dolphins.

There were rumblings this morning about it, but as a dolphins fan i'd be a little torn if it happened, I don't like the idea of them paying a 36 year old with a bad neck a shitload of cash, I'd just assume they get a young QB and see what happens, maybe matt flynn or through the draft. I wouldn't doubt if manning would prerfer miami, He was big marino fan as a youngster, or so he told letterman after he broke the 48 td record in 04', his dad also mentioned them watching dan back in the day. If he can stay healthy, fuck yah i'd like to see him there, but damn those neck injuries are worrisome.

[MurrayFiend]

Good point, D2W. Hadn't made the Philbin connection. Flynn looked good in the game I saw, and he wants to go somewhere he can start now. The Dolphins could be a fit.

[soulonfire]

It would be odd seeing Peyton in anything but a Colts uniform. Kinda like Montana playing with the Chiefs.

[St_Augustines_Pears]

It would be odd seeing Peyton in anything but a Colts uniform. Kinda like Montana playing with the Chiefs.

Or like Joe Namath finishing with the Rams, or Johnny Unitas going out wearing a Chargers uniform.

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

Seahawks are going after Flynn and who ever said that Manning is over-rated is high.

[Rageman]

It would be odd seeing Peyton in anything but a Colts uniform. Kinda like Montana playing with the Chiefs.

I know what you meant . . . I'm just trying to ease p13 into the inevitable.

[Crazy Levi]

Good point, D2W. Hadn't made the Philbin connection. Flynn looked good in the game I saw, and he wants to go somewhere he can start now. The Dolphins could be a fit.

It's not a good point.

Flynn and his agent don't give two fucks about the offensive coordinator...this ALWAYS comes up with free agents and it never has any basis in reality.

Flynn will go where the best offer is, plain and simple.

I'd love to see him in Washington. Maybe there's an equipment manager who was his equipment manager with the Packers or something...would make it a shoe in!

[SkyDog112046]

Good point, D2W. Hadn't made the Philbin connection. Flynn looked good in the game I saw, and he wants to go somewhere he can start now. The Dolphins could be a fit.

It's not a good point.

Flynn and his agent don't give two fucks about the offensive coordinator...this ALWAYS comes up with free agents and it never has any basis in reality.

Flynn will go where the best offer is, plain and simple.

I'd love to see him in Washington. Maybe there's an equipment manager who was his equipment manager with the Packers or something...would make it a shoe in!

Bingo! A career backup who will have a chance to get a starter's contract doesn't care so much where they go as much as they care about how big the check will be. It will be about guaranteed money first, overall dollar potential second, and anything else a distant third. A guy at the end of his career who already had several big contracts and has everything but a ring might have different priorities, but Flynn is going to want to get paid.

[Crazy Levi]

It would be odd seeing Peyton in anything but a Colts uniform. Kinda like Montana playing with the Chiefs.

Or like Joe Namath finishing with the Rams, or Johnny Unitas going out wearing a Chargers uniform.

Larry Csonka...



Bobby Orr

[MurrayFiend]

Good point, D2W. Hadn't made the Philbin connection. Flynn looked good in the game I saw, and he wants to go somewhere he can start now. The Dolphins could be a fit.

It's not a good point.

Flynn and his agent don't give two fucks about the offensive coordinator...this ALWAYS comes up with free agents and it never has any basis in reality.

Flynn will go where the best offer is, plain and simple.

I'd love to see him in Washington. Maybe there's an equipment manager who was his equipment manager with the Packers or something...would make it a shoe in!

Oops!

[El Metalico]

It would be odd seeing Peyton in anything but a Colts uniform. Kinda like Montana playing with the Chiefs.

Or like Joe Namath finishing with the Rams, or Johnny Unitas going out wearing a Chargers uniform.

Larry Csonka...



Bobby Orr

Emmitt Smith

[Crazy Levi]

Art Monk


And here's one I had no idea about...

Franco Harris

[Space Bear]

What's-his-name

[ParaDime77]

Whomever posts the first picture of Hakeen Olajuwon in a Raptors jersey wins a free iPad.

[Crazy Levi]

Uh oh...trouble in paradise


Oh Poor P-13...reduced to looking for people saying nice things about a po-dunk city he doesn't even live in to try to cheer himself up


Peyton is OBVIOUSLY done in Indy - I've been saying it for months.

Cap issues - rebuilding - completely new staff - and now an owner who is PISSED at his golden boy.

Eat shit, P-13. It's over "boy." We are gonna have to add about 5 pages to your MARK MY WORDS thread when Peyton gets cut


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html

Colts owner disappointed Manning took his concerns public rather than keeping them in house

By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, January 26, 2:39 PM

INDIANAPOLIS — Jim Irsay expects Peyton Manning to keep his complaints to himself. Or at least within the confines of the Colts’ team complex.

Shortly after introducing Chuck Pagano as Indianapolis’ new coach, the team owner responded to the comments Manning made earlier this week by referring to the only four-time league MVP as a “politician.”

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest to paint the horseshoe in a negative light, I really don’t,” Irsay said, referring to the Colts’ logo. “The horseshoe always comes first, and I think one thing he’s always known, because he’s been around it so long, is that, you know, you keep it in the family. If you’ve got a problem you talk to each other, it’s not about campaigning or anything like that.”

Clearly, Irsay was not happy to see Manning’s comments in The Indianapolis Star on Tuesday, just as the Colts were interviewing Pagano.

Manning explained that the environment at team headquarters was not the best and said people were nervous because of the major offseason overhaul that has already claimed the jobs of vice chairman Bill Polian, general manager Chris Polian, coach Jim Caldwell and most of Caldwell’s assistants.

Irsay didn’t like that, either.

[Tommy]

What a hypocrite. Was he keeping it "in house" when he was telling Colts business to Rob Lowe?

[Space Bear]

Poor little horseshoe.

[poizond13]

Irsay's comments today were taken out of context and blown way out of proportion. I actually watched the video of his comments. What people don't mention is that Irsay reiterates the love he has for Manning, calls him family, and stated once again that the decision on Peyton will be strictly a health issue, not a money issue. Same thing he's been saying for MONTHS. In other words, nothing new. If Manning is healthy, he will be a Colt. Of course, members of the media are going to leave that out and exploit certain comments out of context, knowing full well that idiots like Levy will fall for it hook, line and sinker.

My main concern with Peyton is that he is not healed yet. The other day Bill Polian said it was the most troubling and vexing injury he's ever seen in 35 years of football. Sadly, there's a real possibility Peyton may never be healthy enough to play again. I sincerely hope that is not the case, even it that means he plays for another team. Peyton deserves the chance to go out on a better note than this.

[MurrayFiend]

It's not about what he deserves. Good sense should dictate what happens, rather than any need felt to go out and have one more glorious season or whatever.

[cantstopthemusic]

Of course, members of the media are going to leave that out and exploit certain comments out of context, knowing full well that idiots like Levy will fall for it hook, line and sinker.

"Excuse me?!"