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Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s health

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:22 pm
by Pimp_From_The_Grave
Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s healthy



Posted by Josh Alper on January 30, 2012, 2:41 PM EST



Titans fans have already started a pitch for Peyton Manning, now comes a report that the Redskins are also interested in the quarterback who remains a member of the Colts despite the open discussion of his future with other teams.

Mike Jones of the Washington Post reports that “a person with knowledge of the situation” told him that the Redskins would be interested in Manning if he’s healthy and available for next season. Jones doesn’t reveal his source and we assume that it is someone involved with the organization, but, honestly, it could really be just about anyone who saw the Redskins quarterbacks play a game last season.

Jones spoke to a league official that acknowledged how many variables there are with the Manning situation.

“No. 1, is he going to be released? No. 2, is he going to be healthy? No. 3, at the end of the day, is he willing to come back and play in the NFL. We don’t know those questions. I think everybody would want Peyton Manning, if he was healthy. You’d be crazy not to want Peyton Manning if he was healthy. Nobody knows now if he’s going to be cleared to play. And if he is cleared to play, wouldn’t the Colts either want him, or [pick up his option] and then try to trade him?”

Just about everything you need to know about the Manning situation is covered in that quote. No one knows anything about Manning’s status right now which means any discussion about his plans for 2012 is just throwing stuff against the wall. The Redskins make plenty of sense as a team interested in Manning’s services, as do a handful of other teams, but they can’t really put all or any of their eggs in that basket without a clearer picture of what the future holds for Manning.




http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... s-healthy/

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:59 pm
by Crazy Levi
Pimp_From_The_Grave wrote:. Jones doesn’t reveal his source and we assume that it is someone involved with the organization, but, honestly, it could really be just about anyone who saw the Redskins quarterbacks play a game last season.
:lol:

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:23 pm
by eddie lee roth
Hey Levi I'm not lookin to bag on your Redskins I'm just curious what makes you a fan of that franchise?

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:20 pm
by Crazy Levi
eddie lee roth wrote:Hey Levi I'm not lookin to bag on your Redskins I'm just curious what makes you a fan of that franchise?
I'm from the DC area, and when I was growing up they'd win a Super Bowl every five years. It was pretty sweet.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:03 pm
by SkyDog112046
There are a lot of teams that will be interested if he is healthy. It's probably easier to list the teams that wouldn't have an interest. I think it's more a matter of which teams Manning is interested in joining.

Here is a thought: Dallas
Jones has to be sick of Romo's 4th Qtr melt-downs by this point. The guy threw away(literally) 3 games last season and it would have been worse than that if they hadn't pulled a few of them out that he almost blew. Money isn't an object in Dallas as Jones will spend right up to the cap. That team is solid overall and has some talented receivers. Compared to the teams that don't have an elite QB or a QB that could become elite Dallas is in a decent spot with Romo. But a healthy Manning would have to be considered an upgrade even at this stage in his career. I wouldn't rule out Dallas making a run at him.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:27 pm
by Luminiferous
Colts owner not 'sentimental' about Manning: 'This isn't fantasy football'


Based on Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay's Tuesday TV sitdown with ESPN's Hannah Storm, it's looking more likely the Colts won't pay injured Peyton Manning the $28 million bonus he's due March 8 -- and may show him the door in Indy and let him walk as a free agent.

Storm showed a clip from Tuesday's SportsCenter Special: NFL Face to Face (9 p.m. ET) on Monday morning's SportsCenter. The special features Storm interviewing Irsay, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers and others.

Manning's endured three neck surgeries. In the clip shown by Storm on Monday's SportsCenter, Irsay says it's a "health issue" not a money issue. Manning made about $18 million this season but never played a down.

"This is not a knee, not a shoulder or an ankle. This is a neck. It's my responsibility as an owner to make sure that if I'm going to put a player back on the field, that it's in his best interest.

Irsay says he has "great loyalty" to Manning -- and won't trade him. At the same time, he warns he can't afford to make major financial decisions from a "sentimental" aspect.

"This isn't fantasy football," says Irsay.

Ouch. During Tuesday's interview, Irsay also tells Storm the Colts will likely take either Andrew Luck or Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III with the first pick in the 2012 NFL draft.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... fl-draft/1

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:35 pm
by SkyDog112046
Luminiferous wrote:Colts owner not 'sentimental' about Manning: 'This isn't fantasy football'


Based on Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay's Tuesday TV sitdown with ESPN's Hannah Storm, it's looking more likely the Colts won't pay injured Peyton Manning the $28 million bonus he's due March 8 -- and may show him the door in Indy and let him walk as a free agent.

Storm showed a clip from Tuesday's SportsCenter Special: NFL Face to Face (9 p.m. ET) on Monday morning's SportsCenter. The special features Storm interviewing Irsay, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers and others.

Manning's endured three neck surgeries. In the clip shown by Storm on Monday's SportsCenter, Irsay says it's a "health issue" not a money issue. Manning made about $18 million this season but never played a down.

"This is not a knee, not a shoulder or an ankle. This is a neck. It's my responsibility as an owner to make sure that if I'm going to put a player back on the field, that it's in his best interest.

Irsay says he has "great loyalty" to Manning -- and won't trade him. At the same time, he warns he can't afford to make major financial decisions from a "sentimental" aspect.

"This isn't fantasy football," says Irsay.

Ouch. During Tuesday's interview, Irsay also tells Storm the Colts will likely take either Andrew Luck or Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III with the first pick in the 2012 NFL draft.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... fl-draft/1
Wouldn't it be kind of funny if they cut Manning and then Luck ends up being a bust.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:04 pm
by Tymaster
SkyDog112046 wrote:There are a lot of teams that will be interested if he is healthy. It's probably easier to list the teams that wouldn't have an interest. I think it's more a matter of which teams Manning is interested in joining.

Here is a thought: Dallas
Jones has to be sick of Romo's 4th Qtr melt-downs by this point. The guy threw away(literally) 3 games last season and it would have been worse than that if they hadn't pulled a few of them out that he almost blew. Money isn't an object in Dallas as Jones will spend right up to the cap. That team is solid overall and has some talented receivers. Compared to the teams that don't have an elite QB or a QB that could become elite Dallas is in a decent spot with Romo. But a healthy Manning would have to be considered an upgrade even at this stage in his career. I wouldn't rule out Dallas making a run at him.
Another fella from the coaching staff at work brought this scenario up the other day. I makes a lot of sense.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:15 pm
by Crazy Levi
SkyDog112046 wrote:There are a lot of teams that will be interested if he is healthy. It's probably easier to list the teams that wouldn't have an interest. I think it's more a matter of which teams Manning is interested in joining.

Here is a thought: Dallas
Jones has to be sick of Romo's 4th Qtr melt-downs by this point. The guy threw away(literally) 3 games last season and it would have been worse than that if they hadn't pulled a few of them out that he almost blew. Money isn't an object in Dallas as Jones will spend right up to the cap. That team is solid overall and has some talented receivers. Compared to the teams that don't have an elite QB or a QB that could become elite Dallas is in a decent spot with Romo. But a healthy Manning would have to be considered an upgrade even at this stage in his career. I wouldn't rule out Dallas making a run at him.
No fucking WAY does Dallas give up on Romo at this point. He is a very good QB and they'd be insane to fuck that up.

If I had the choice of either Romo or Manning on the Skins, I'd take Romo in a second.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:19 pm
by Tymaster
Crazy Levi wrote:
SkyDog112046 wrote:There are a lot of teams that will be interested if he is healthy. It's probably easier to list the teams that wouldn't have an interest. I think it's more a matter of which teams Manning is interested in joining.

Here is a thought: Dallas
Jones has to be sick of Romo's 4th Qtr melt-downs by this point. The guy threw away(literally) 3 games last season and it would have been worse than that if they hadn't pulled a few of them out that he almost blew. Money isn't an object in Dallas as Jones will spend right up to the cap. That team is solid overall and has some talented receivers. Compared to the teams that don't have an elite QB or a QB that could become elite Dallas is in a decent spot with Romo. But a healthy Manning would have to be considered an upgrade even at this stage in his career. I wouldn't rule out Dallas making a run at him.
No fucking WAY does Dallas give up on Romo at this point. He is a very good QB and they'd be insane to fuck that up.

If I had the choice of either Romo or Manning on the Skins, I'd take Romo in a second.
I don't think they cut Romo, but bring in Manning and say "have a seat this year, son." Big what if.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:29 pm
by Crazy Levi
Tymaster wrote: I don't think they cut Romo, but bring in Manning and say "have a seat this year, son." Big what if.
Romo is the biggest star on America's team, and he wouldn't put up with that shit.

If Manning were in Cowboys Camp there's no way in fuck Romo wouldn't engineer a way out of town.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:36 pm
by Tymaster
Crazy Levi wrote:
Tymaster wrote: I don't think they cut Romo, but bring in Manning and say "have a seat this year, son." Big what if.
Romo is the biggest star on America's team, and he wouldn't put up with that shit.

If Manning were in Cowboys Camp there's no way in fuck Romo wouldn't engineer a way out of town.
Tony Romo has been a Cowboy since Vinny Testaverde was a Cowboy. In that time, Romo has had time to take it to the next level. He's not a bad QB by any means, but he is a Danny White/Craig Morton style QB. Not at all in the Staubach Aikman league.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:49 pm
by joey64
now there is some story online that Manning's neck is still screwed even after this operation & rehab & he may not be able to play anymore, maybe just some BS story to stir up this deal some more

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:46 am
by Pimp_From_The_Grave
Report: Peyton hits a plateau


Posted by Mike Florio on January 30, 2012, 11:22 PM EST



With each passing day, it seems less and less likely that Peyton Manning ever will play again for the Colts. The next question is whether he ever will play again for anyone.

On that point, there are ominous indications. Peter King of Sports Illustrated reported during last night’s Pro Bowl pregame on NBC that Manning isn’t doing well. Now, Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that Manning has not shown improvement in the velocity of his passes since he began throwing again in December.

Two unnamed “league-affiliated doctors with experience in spinal fusion surgery” tell Cole that it could take up to a year for Manning to know if he can return to action.

As Cole points out, Manning naturally remains optimistic and determined. But if the nerves don’t improve, there’s really nothing he can do.

And so while his status with the Colts will be known with certainty soon, everything else about his future will remain uncertain for weeks, maybe months. Maybe longer.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... a-plateau/

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:31 am
by Crazy Levi
Starting to look like he's finished, and his brother is gonna retire with more trophies than he is.

Wow...well, that'll still make him the second best Manning out of three. Two out of three ain't bad!

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:03 pm
by Clovis Died
I wouldn't dare give up Romo for Peyton. If Peyton goes to Washington that is where all careers go to die.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:27 am
by Machado
I overheard that Peyton has stated he would play next year
for an incentive laden contract.

Is the guy that desperate to play the game???

I hope he goes to Washington. I would not mind watching Dallas beat on his neck for 2 games next year.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:03 am
by bane
Machado wrote:I overheard that Peyton has stated he would play next year
for an incentive laden contract.

Is the guy that desperate to play the game???

I hope he goes to Washington. I would not mind watching Dallas beat on his neck for 2 games next year.
If you want to see Peyton Manning go to a division rival, you must be a glutton for punishment.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:48 am
by Machado
bane wrote:
Machado wrote:I overheard that Peyton has stated he would play next year
for an incentive laden contract.

Is the guy that desperate to play the game???

I hope he goes to Washington. I would not mind watching Dallas beat on his neck for 2 games next year.
If you want to see Peyton Manning go to a division rival, you must be a glutton for punishment.

That dude in a Skins uniform does not scare me.
I am much more worried about the Giants or the Eagles. I am confident the Skins will be no threat, even with Peyton as the QB.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:46 am
by bane
Manning makes crappy franchises look good. Perennial contender with him, 2-14 without him. Like I said, if you hope he goes to a division rival, you must enjoy punishment.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:09 pm
by Machado
bane wrote:Manning makes crappy franchises look good. Perennial contender with him, 2-14 without him. Like I said, if you hope he goes to a division rival, you must enjoy punishment.
Fuck that guy.
I'll personally meet him at the 50 yard line and challenge him.

Why would any team back down to Peyton at this point in his career??

He's old.
He's broken.
He might be going to a new team, with a new system to learn as well.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:17 pm
by Crazy Levi
I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:33 pm
by bane
Crazy Levi wrote:I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.
Sure he's a risk. That's why he's saying he'd take an incentive laden contract, but I won't miss him in my team's division if he's gone. His neck is healed. His nerves aren't, but once they are (assuming they ever are) he's still got the potential to be Peyton Manning for a few more years. He's not that old. If I'm a Cowboy fan I don't want any part of that. I can't stand the Cowboys though, so seeing Manning kick their ass a couple times a year wouldn't break my heart either.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:37 pm
by Machado
bane wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.
Sure he's a risk. That's why he's saying he'd take an incentive laden contract, but I won't miss him in my team's division if he's gone. His neck is healed. His nerves aren't, but once they are (assuming they ever are) he's still got the potential to be Peyton Manning for a few more years. He's not that old. If I'm a Cowboy fan I don't want any part of that. I can't stand the Cowboys though, so seeing Manning kick their ass a couple times a year wouldn't break my heart either.
Like I said, tell that fucker with the neck injury to meet Dallas
at midfield for the coin toss.
Years ago Theisman's leg was snapped. Can Ware snap Peyton's neck?
I kid
I kid

Listen, I would prefer to see Dallas defeat good teams over the course of a season as opposed to walking over doormats week after week.
If Peyton is healthy and playing well, there is still no reason to fear the guy.
On the road or at home, Peyton is just another aging QB that will be signed because of his past success.
If this were 5 yrs ago, then teams in the NFC east would have to proceed with caution.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:42 pm
by Crazy Levi
bane wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.
Sure he's a risk. That's why he's saying he'd take an incentive laden contract, .
He's saying that now, but his agent isn't stupid.

In the end, he's Peyton Manning, and he'll sign the biggest contract he can get.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:48 pm
by eddie lee roth
Crazy Levi wrote:
bane wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.
Sure he's a risk. That's why he's saying he'd take an incentive laden contract, .
He's saying that now, but his agent isn't stupid.

In the end, he's Peyton Manning, and he'll sign the biggest contract he can get.
Remember when dope smokin Ricky Williams and his agent Master P signed his rookie contract that was full of incentives that he was never going to reach :lol:

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:54 pm
by bane
Crazy Levi wrote:
bane wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote:I have to agree with Machado.

I think he's a huge risk for any team at this point.
Sure he's a risk. That's why he's saying he'd take an incentive laden contract, .
He's saying that now, but his agent isn't stupid.

In the end, he's Peyton Manning, and he'll sign the biggest contract he can get.
Of course he will, but that's just buyer beware, and how desperate or just dumb that particular owner is. Dan Snyder dude.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:09 pm
by Machado
bane wrote: Of course he will, but that's just buyer beware, and how desperate or just dumb that particular owner is. Dan Snyder dude.
Snyder is the man for the job. His forte is handing out expensive contracts to players that are unable to earn their $$$

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:41 pm
by SkyDog112046
Look at the Manning situation like this:
Say you are a GM or coach who can make personnel decisions. Your team hasn't had a good season in a long time. Maybe one playoff appearance over the past 6 or 7 years and no playoff wins. You have a solid if unspectacular defense and several pieces in place on offense. But QB is your biggest hole by far and you can point to numerous games that your QBs have lost. Your fans have lost patience and attendance is slipping.

You have a chance to pick up Manning. Your doctors clear him to play. They can't guarantee he'll be as effective as he was before he got hurt or that his neck will hold up long term, but he's healthy enough to play and workouts show he's at least 80% of what he was 2 or 3 years ago. Keep in mind that his mind is as sharp as ever and that he will be in effect an offensive coordinator in the huddle and he should make everyone around him a little better.

Because of the question marks surrounding Manning some teams aren't lining up to throw big money at him. You can get him in an incentive laden contract with a salary around $8M with bonuses for snaps taken, games won, and playoff victories.

He will have an immediate impact on ticket sales, he will create a lot of interest for your team in the off season, you'll probably get an extra prime time game out of it, and there is the potential that he will take your team deep into the playoffs(of course there is the risk he'll get sacked in week 1 and be done for the year). Do you do it?

I say the reward is worth far more than the risk in this case. If it's short guaranteed money and you have the chance to make your team relevant again you have to do it. There are at least 5 or 6 teams that fit this description and one of them will.

Re: Report: Redskins interested in Peyton Manning if he’s he

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:13 pm
by TekChef
SkyDog112046 wrote:Look at the Manning situation like this:
Say you are a GM or coach who can make personnel decisions. Your team hasn't had a good season in a long time. Maybe one playoff appearance over the past 6 or 7 years and no playoff wins. You have a solid if unspectacular defense and several pieces in place on offense. But QB is your biggest hole by far and you can point to numerous games that your QBs have lost. Your fans have lost patience and attendance is slipping.

You have a chance to pick up Manning. Your doctors clear him to play. They can't guarantee he'll be as effective as he was before he got hurt or that his neck will hold up long term, but he's healthy enough to play and workouts show he's at least 80% of what he was 2 or 3 years ago. Keep in mind that his mind is as sharp as ever and that he will be in effect an offensive coordinator in the huddle and he should make everyone around him a little better.

Because of the question marks surrounding Manning some teams aren't lining up to throw big money at him. You can get him in an incentive laden contract with a salary around $8M with bonuses for snaps taken, games won, and playoff victories.

He will have an immediate impact on ticket sales, he will create a lot of interest for your team in the off season, you'll probably get an extra prime time game out of it, and there is the potential that he will take your team deep into the playoffs(of course there is the risk he'll get sacked in week 1 and be done for the year). Do you do it?

I say the reward is worth far more than the risk in this case. If it's short guaranteed money and you have the chance to make your team relevant again you have to do it. There are at least 5 or 6 teams that fit this description and one of them will.
100% correct.

Manning, even at 80-90% is better than most QBs in the game. He also could be the piece than turns losers(think:Cardinals, for example) into winners. Manning only has 2-3 seasons left in him at most, so he wants to get one more ring before he retires. You can count on him being in the league next year, even if he is not getting a top paycheck as this is NOT about money, he has plenty of that.