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Andrew Luck ranks #1 (NUMBER ONE) in NFL Total QB Rating:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

NUMBER ONE!!

Reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week.

Best rookie qb, bar none.

Kamikaze_Russo wrote:

It's funny 'cause it's true.

RG# will be beat up or have a career threatening injury within 3 seasons. If he keeps going like he is now.

NeverSurrender wrote:RG# will be beat up or have a career threatening injury within 3 seasons. If he keeps going like he is now.

I agree that he can't be taking hits like he did last week.

That triple option they had him running against the Bengals was suicide. Yeah they were getting first downs but obviously not worth the cost. They didn't even win.

Yesterday, they changed the game plan a bit and he didn't take nearly as many hits. And he was untouched on his rushing TD. Cause he's that fast.

poizond13 wrote:Reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week.

Best rookie qb, bar none.

He's the second best so far. No doubt about it.

bane wrote:

poizond13 wrote:Reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week.

Best rookie qb, bar none.

He's the second best so far. No doubt about it.

@ "reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week"

Yeah, that's impressive.

Rg3 was "reigning NFL offensive PLAYER of the week" after the Saints game. First time in history a rookie won that in his debut.

So yes, second best, clearly. Weedon and Tannehill still have a chance to close ground though.

poizond13 wrote:Reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week.

Best rookie qb, bar none.

Why are you licking his balls? It's honestly pretty sickening.

poizond13 wrote:Reigning NFL offensive rookie of the week.

Best rookie qb, bar none.

No way. Better that Luck right now? RGIII. Could be better than Luck very soon? Weeden.

Andrew Luck ranks #1 (NUMBER ONE) in NFL Total QB Rating:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

NUMBER ONE!!

poizond13 wrote:QB rating is a made up stat that means nothing. Has no bearing on the game, never has never will. That's a fact.

Of course, trollboy will say that this is TOTAL QBR instead of just QBR so that makes it relevant.
That is until Luck drops out of the top spot and it becomes a "made up stat" again.

What the fuck is that stat anyway?

Total Quarterback Rating (abbreviated as Total QBR or simply QBR) is a measure of the performance of quarterbacks or any other passers in American football developed by the American sports network ESPN in 2011. The network claims it is a more meaningful alternative to the older NFL passer rating, which remains the official NFL measure of quarterback performance.

Facedown wrote:Total Quarterback Rating (abbreviated as Total QBR or simply QBR) is a measure of the performance of quarterbacks or any other passers in American football developed by the American sports network ESPN in 2011. The network claims it is a more meaningful alternative to the older NFL passer rating, which remains the official NFL measure of quarterback performance.

Thank you. I find it hard to believe someone can be at #1 in this rating and #24 in the passer rating.

WTF wrote:

Facedown wrote:Total Quarterback Rating (abbreviated as Total QBR or simply QBR) is a measure of the performance of quarterbacks or any other passers in American football developed by the American sports network ESPN in 2011. The network claims it is a more meaningful alternative to the older NFL passer rating, which remains the official NFL measure of quarterback performance.

Thank you. I find it hard to believe someone can be at #1 in this rating and #24 in the passer rating.

The guy has thrown a bunch of INTs (in only three games!) and his completion percentage is very low. He's getting yards but that'll happen when you are throwing 50 passes a game.

That's why his passer rating is so much lower than RG3, who is completing an astounding 70% of his passes while only throwing around 30 per game (with only one INT in FOUR games).

Crazy Levi wrote:

WTF wrote:

Facedown wrote:Total Quarterback Rating (abbreviated as Total QBR or simply QBR) is a measure of the performance of quarterbacks or any other passers in American football developed by the American sports network ESPN in 2011. The network claims it is a more meaningful alternative to the older NFL passer rating, which remains the official NFL measure of quarterback performance.

Thank you. I find it hard to believe someone can be at #1 in this rating and #24 in the passer rating.

The guy has thrown a bunch of INTs (in only three games!) and his completion percentage is very low. He's getting yards but that'll happen when you are throwing 50 passes a game.

That's why his passer rating is so much lower than RG3, who is completing an astounding 70% of his passes while only throwing around 30 per game (with only one INT in FOUR games).

I should go back to around draft time and finid the I told you so post I made on Griffin.

Because I told you so.

Crazy Levi wrote:

WTF wrote:

Facedown wrote:Total Quarterback Rating (abbreviated as Total QBR or simply QBR) is a measure of the performance of quarterbacks or any other passers in American football developed by the American sports network ESPN in 2011. The network claims it is a more meaningful alternative to the older NFL passer rating, which remains the official NFL measure of quarterback performance.

Thank you. I find it hard to believe someone can be at #1 in this rating and #24 in the passer rating.

The guy has thrown a bunch of INTs (in only three games!) and his completion percentage is very low. He's getting yards but that'll happen when you are throwing 50 passes a game.

That's why his passer rating is so much lower than RG3, who is completing an astounding 70% of his passes while only throwing around 30 per game (with only one INT in FOUR games).

I guess my point was simply that I can't believe Luck could rank number 1 in any positive statistical category at the moment.

WTF wrote:
I guess my point was simply that I can't believe Luck could rank number 1 in any positive statistical category at the moment.

Well, he is #1 in a made-up statistical category that nobody besides ESPN pays attention to.

For passer rating - which is the one the rest of the universe cares about - he's #24, which makes a lot more sense.

johnk5150 wrote:
I should go back to around draft time and finid the I told you so post I made on Griffin.

Because I told you so.

You don't need to remind me, I remember.

You were absolutely right. I'm shocked the Skins managed to get something this big right.

johnk5150 wrote:
I should go back to around draft time and finid the I told you so post I made on Griffin.

Because I told you so.

He won a Heisman playing for Baylor, a school that hasn't won anything since 1980. RG3 put them back in the map. He's the real deal. His success really isn't all that surprising.

bane wrote: He won a Heisman playing for Baylor, a school that hasn't won anything since 1980. RG3 put them back in the map. He's the real deal. His success really isn't all that surprising.

Dude has got huge talent, but the fact that he graduated early from High School, was valedictorian and was studying for his Masters during his final year at Baylor is just as impressive. Something tells me that even if he doesn't last long in the NFL we won't be reading about him being destitute.

WTF wrote:

bane wrote: He won a Heisman playing for Baylor, a school that hasn't won anything since 1980. RG3 put them back in the map. He's the real deal. His success really isn't all that surprising.

Dude has got huge talent, but the fact that he graduated early from High School, was valedictorian and was studying for his Masters during his final year at Baylor is just as impressive. Something tells me that even if he doesn't last long in the NFL we won't be reading about him being destitute.

He'll stick around BECAUSE he's that smart.

I heard the other day that Calvin Johnson designed and has like twelve patents on an irrigation system he designed. Must be nice to have something to fall back on in case the football thing doesn't work, huh?

johnk5150 wrote:

WTF wrote:

bane wrote: He won a Heisman playing for Baylor, a school that hasn't won anything since 1980. RG3 put them back in the map. He's the real deal. His success really isn't all that surprising.

Dude has got huge talent, but the fact that he graduated early from High School, was valedictorian and was studying for his Masters during his final year at Baylor is just as impressive. Something tells me that even if he doesn't last long in the NFL we won't be reading about him being destitute.

He'll stick around BECAUSE he's that smart.

I heard the other day that Calvin Johnson designed and has like twelve patents on an irrigation system he designed. Must be nice to have something to fall back on in case the football thing doesn't work, huh?

I didn't know that about Johnson. I think he's pretty well set anyway though. On RG3, how many pro bowls does he have to get before he's no longer a potential bust? Something tells me he's going to go to the beach a whole bunch of times.

bane wrote: I didn't know that about Johnson. I think he's pretty well set anyway though. On RG3, how many pro bowls does he have to get before he's no longer a potential bust? Something tells me he's going to go to the beach a whole bunch of times.

He made Baylor a winner. If he can make the Skins a winner again, that'll pretty much seal the deal.

I love how every P13 Luck troll turns into another thread about how awesome RG3 is

bane wrote: I didn't know that about Johnson. I think he's pretty well set anyway though. On RG3, how many pro bowls does he have to get before he's no longer a potential bust? Something tells me he's going to go to the beach a whole bunch of times.

I think the only one on here that's even hinted at him being a potential bust is Gregory.

WTF wrote:

bane wrote: I didn't know that about Johnson. I think he's pretty well set anyway though. On RG3, how many pro bowls does he have to get before he's no longer a potential bust? Something tells me he's going to go to the beach a whole bunch of times.

I think the only one on here that's even hinted at him being a potential bust is Gregory.

Yeah, my post was a not so subtle dig at Greg's idiocy. You know deep down he doesn't really think RG3 will be a bust. He just can't stand the fact that he's out shining his guy.

poizond13 wrote:Best rookie qb, bar none.

10. Bob Griese (Dolphins, 1967)
The Dolphins were a second-year expansion team when Griese arrived, and stunk throughout the rest of the 1960s. But Griese demonstrated right away that he could be the cornerstone of the teams that dominated in the early 1970s. He made the Pro Bowl as a rookie (Joe Namath was the other AFL QB), completing 50 percent of his passes for 2,005 yards and 15 TDs.


9. Joe Namath (Jets, 1965)
Broadway Joe lived up to all the hype, winning AFL rookie of the year honors from both the Sporting News and the United Press and being named to the AFL All-Star team. He took over as starter in the third game of the season and threw for 2,220 yards; it would be the one of just two seasons in his career when he tossed more TD passes (18) than INTs (15).

8. Johnny Unitas (Colts, 1956)
Unitas was cut by the Steelers in training camp in 1955, and when the Colts gave him a chance in 1956 he didn't waste any time in becoming a star. In 12 games he completed 110 of 198 passes (55.6 percent), averaging a solid 7.6 yards per attempt. Unitas also ran 28 times for 155 yards and a TD.

7. Rick Mirer (1993, Seattle)
Jerome Bettis was named offensive rookie of the year by the AP, but many (including Football Digest) thought Mirer should have gotten the nod. Why? Because in 1992 the Seahawks' offense was the worst in the NFL, by far; the team averaged less than one TD a game. With Mirer at the helm the next year, the Seahawks' offense improved immediately, and the team picked up four more wins, improving from 2-14 to 6-10. Mirer started every game, and set rookie records in completions (274), attempts (486), and yards (2,833). He also carried the ball 68 times for 344 yards and 3 TDs.

It turned out to be the greatest year of Mirer's career.

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6. Peyton Manning (Colts, 1998)
Manning took every snap for the Colts in 1998, and set all kinds of rookie QB records in the process: most completions (326), attempts (575), and yards (3,739). He also threw for 26 TDs, breaking Charlie Conerly's 50-year-old mark. Manning was one of the top QBs in the NFL, leading the AFC in passing yards and attempts.

Manning did all this despite getting off to a terrible start; in his first four games, he threw 11 interceptions. He turned things around in the middle of the season. "The improvement is phenomenal," said Colts president Bill Polian in mid-December. "I've never seen improvement like this from a rookie in all my years."

5. Charlie Conerly (Giants, 1948)
The 1948 Giants weren't very good, but their 4-8 record was an improvement over 1947 (2-8-2), and started the uptrend that would take them to the playoffs in 1950. Conerly, who compiled the third-highest rookie passer rating ever (84.0), completed 162 of 199 passes for 2,175 yards. He also threw 22 TD passes, which stood as the rookie record for 50 years before Manning.

4. Fran Tarkenton (Vikings, 1961)
Tarkenton exploded out of the gates, leading the expansion Vikings to a 37-13 blowout upset of the Bears in their first game. Tarkenton threw for four TDs and ran for another in that contest. He was just getting started. The Vikings finished the season 3-11, but Tarkenton had a great year. He completed 56 percent of his passes and was third in the NFL with 18 TD passes. And he did what he later became famous for: he scrambled and ran like crazy, rushing for 308 yards and 5 TDs.


3. Dan Marino (Dolphins, 1983)
Marino, the sixth QB picked in the 1983 draft, didn't start for the Dolphins until the sixth game of the season. His debut, against the Bills, was a harbinger: he threw for 322 yards and 3 TDs in a close OT loss. He then led the Dolphins to the playoffs, in the process becoming the first rookie QB to lead a conference in passing. He also set a rookie record with a 96 passer rating, and became the first rookie QB to start in the Pro Bowl.

2. Bob Waterfield (Rams, 1945)
Waterfield was a runaway selection for NFL MVP and led Cleveland to the NFL Championship, throwing the long ball: he averaged 9.4 yards per pass attempt, and completed 52 percent of his passes. He also tossed 37- and 44-yard TD passes in the Rams' 15-14 championship game win over the Redskins.

1. Greg Cook (Bengals, 1969)
Cook had the potential to be one of the greatest QBs in NFL history. The Bengals drafted him out of the University of Cincinnati, fifth overall, and he stepped right into the young Bill Walsh's offense and threw deep often, connecting with tight end Bob Trumpy and wide receiver Eric Crabtree.

Cook started right away and led the Bengals to a 3-0 record before injuring his shoulder. He missed the next three games (the Bengals lost all three), then came back, still injured, and continued his great season. By the end of his rookie year, he'd thrown for 1,854 yards and 15 TDs. He also averaged 17.5 yards per completion and holds the rookie record for average yards per attempt, 9.41. And his QB rating of 88 remains the second-highest ever for a rookie QB, behind Marino. Cook was named AFL rookie of the year by the United Press.

Sadly, Cook was unable to overcome his shoulder injury and played only one more game (in 1973) in his NFL career.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... /rookieqbs

Wins and Losses is the only stat worth talking about.

Crazy Levi wrote:

WTF wrote:
I guess my point was simply that I can't believe Luck could rank number 1 in any positive statistical category at the moment.

Well, he is #1 in a made-up statistical category that nobody besides ESPN pays attention to.

For passer rating - which is the one the rest of the universe cares about - he's #24, which makes a lot more sense.

ESPN made that shit up, so they can overhype certain qbs.