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Youth Football-Friday Night Tykes, Debuts 1/14/14

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http://tv.esquire.com/shows/friday-night-tykes

Has anybody heard about the show or plan to watch? I saw the preview last week and I was disgusted. Classic case of grown men living their dream through young kids.
(90 second preview)
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I'm gonna watch it. The trailer looks like they're playing up the "oh my God those poor children" angle, but my kid plays pee wee football in Texas, and yeah, the coaches are hard on them. I don't have a problem with it as long as it's done the right way. My kid absolutely loves it.

ETA: I'm sure that this show is scripted all to hell too. There isn't much reality in reality TV. My kid's league is pretty much drama free and no way would any of his coaches encourage helmet to helmet stuff.
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So this is "Dance Moms" for the guys, basically. I'm interested to check it out. My oldest son is almost 14 and has played tackle football since he was 5. He loves the sport and he's only really had one coach that was just too competitive. Dude was the epidomy of the overbearing, "living through my son" kind of dad. It was when he was in 4th grade. He and his assistant are very well known in the community as being the dad's who's sons are the superstars. At least that's what they want you to think. Our school system has two middle schools and both those kids play on the opposing team. Neither of them are even starters now. Poetic justice. LOL
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That was actually pretty entertaining.
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DaveB wrote:So this is "Dance Moms" for the guys, basically. I'm interested to check it out. My oldest son is almost 14 and has played tackle football since he was 5. He loves the sport and he's only really had one coach that was just too competitive. Dude was the epidomy of the overbearing, "living through my son" kind of dad. It was when he was in 4th grade. He and his assistant are very well known in the community as being the dad's who's sons are the superstars. At least that's what they want you to think. Our school system has two middle schools and both those kids play on the opposing team. Neither of them are even starters now. Poetic justice. LOL

Did you watch any of the 1st two episodes? Not surprised several of the coaches have a military background. Why they believe yelling at the kids as if they were is basic training is sickening to see and pathetic.
Then you have 1 coach who had the kids chanting, "fuck" at practice. With the parents watching from the sidelines. This same coach could have cared less about what he was making the kids do.

The coaches seemed to make a similar mistake repeatedly.
Breaking the spirit of these kids. At that point the kids won't respond how you want. Why should they? What is in it for the kids at that point?

Was entertaining to see the head coach of the Jr Broncos took 2 fat losses in the first 2 games of the season. He cried on camera and mentioned how much work "he puts in" for the team. I thought there was no I in team?
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Machado wrote:I saw the preview last week and I was disgusted.
I can guess what it's about and no way would I watch it, youth football disgusts me.

I was involved with my buddies and their kids and in today's world its sicking what youth sports has turned into.

They'd lie about address to stack teams, parents would scout and video record other team games and practices. Fucking record games to scout other teams in youth football? Still blows my mind but what got me the worst.

In the first 3 games of the season, 4 parents were kicked off the field. There was adult fights at practically every game.

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Machado wrote:
DaveB wrote:So this is "Dance Moms" for the guys, basically. I'm interested to check it out. My oldest son is almost 14 and has played tackle football since he was 5. He loves the sport and he's only really had one coach that was just too competitive. Dude was the epidomy of the overbearing, "living through my son" kind of dad. It was when he was in 4th grade. He and his assistant are very well known in the community as being the dad's who's sons are the superstars. At least that's what they want you to think. Our school system has two middle schools and both those kids play on the opposing team. Neither of them are even starters now. Poetic justice. LOL

Did you watch any of the 1st two episodes? Not surprised several of the coaches have a military background. Why they believe yelling at the kids as if they were is basic training is sickening to see and pathetic.
Then you have 1 coach who had the kids chanting, "fuck" at practice. With the parents watching from the sidelines. This same coach could have cared less about what he was making the kids do.

The coaches seemed to make a similar mistake repeatedly.
Breaking the spirit of these kids. At that point the kids won't respond how you want. Why should they? What is in it for the kids at that point?

Was entertaining to see the head coach of the Jr Broncos took 2 fat losses in the first 2 games of the season. He cried on camera and mentioned how much work "he puts in" for the team. I thought there was no I in team?
I haven't seen much of any of that where my kid plays. I'm guessing a lot of that is scripted. We've got passionate coaches and parents who are sometimes a little over the top, but never seen a fight or even an argument and I can't imagine any coach getting his kids to say "fuck" during warm ups. We've got a couple ghetto teams that are really talented with some coaches that remind me of that guy, but I can't imagine they'd take it that far. That appears to be a league with some funky rules though. We've got minimum play rules. Every kid gets in for at least 12 plays I think it is. Having an 8 year old sit for an entire game after he busts his ass in practice is pretty screwed up. Our league is pretty touchy about targeting and helmet to helmet stuff too. We had a kid on our team get ejected for targeting this year. They're on top of the safety stuff to the point of being a little ridiculous about it. Doesn't look like that league pays much attention to that stuff, or at least that's what the show portrays. It's an entertaining little piece of reality TV, but I doubt there's much reality to it.
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Machado wrote:
DaveB wrote:So this is "Dance Moms" for the guys, basically. I'm interested to check it out. My oldest son is almost 14 and has played tackle football since he was 5. He loves the sport and he's only really had one coach that was just too competitive. Dude was the epidomy of the overbearing, "living through my son" kind of dad. It was when he was in 4th grade. He and his assistant are very well known in the community as being the dad's who's sons are the superstars. At least that's what they want you to think. Our school system has two middle schools and both those kids play on the opposing team. Neither of them are even starters now. Poetic justice. LOL

Did you watch any of the 1st two episodes? Not surprised several of the coaches have a military background. Why they believe yelling at the kids as if they were is basic training is sickening to see and pathetic.
Then you have 1 coach who had the kids chanting, "fuck" at practice. With the parents watching from the sidelines. This same coach could have cared less about what he was making the kids do.

The coaches seemed to make a similar mistake repeatedly.
Breaking the spirit of these kids. At that point the kids won't respond how you want. Why should they? What is in it for the kids at that point?

Was entertaining to see the head coach of the Jr Broncos took 2 fat losses in the first 2 games of the season. He cried on camera and mentioned how much work "he puts in" for the team. I thought there was no I in team?
I didn't watch any of that, actually. But with all of the similar show and "reality" television as it is, I can pretty much guess exactly what it's like.
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DaveB wrote:
Machado wrote:
DaveB wrote:So this is "Dance Moms" for the guys, basically. I'm interested to check it out. My oldest son is almost 14 and has played tackle football since he was 5. He loves the sport and he's only really had one coach that was just too competitive. Dude was the epidomy of the overbearing, "living through my son" kind of dad. It was when he was in 4th grade. He and his assistant are very well known in the community as being the dad's who's sons are the superstars. At least that's what they want you to think. Our school system has two middle schools and both those kids play on the opposing team. Neither of them are even starters now. Poetic justice. LOL

Did you watch any of the 1st two episodes? Not surprised several of the coaches have a military background. Why they believe yelling at the kids as if they were is basic training is sickening to see and pathetic.
Then you have 1 coach who had the kids chanting, "fuck" at practice. With the parents watching from the sidelines. This same coach could have cared less about what he was making the kids do.

The coaches seemed to make a similar mistake repeatedly.
Breaking the spirit of these kids. At that point the kids won't respond how you want. Why should they? What is in it for the kids at that point?

Was entertaining to see the head coach of the Jr Broncos took 2 fat losses in the first 2 games of the season. He cried on camera and mentioned how much work "he puts in" for the team. I thought there was no I in team?
I didn't watch any of that, actually. But with all of the similar show and "reality" television as it is, I can pretty much guess exactly what it's like.
Difficult to say how much the show is scripted. Didn't appear to be scripted when footage was shown on the kid crying on the field because he was forced to run and run and run to make up for lost practice time in the summer.

The head coach of the Jr Broncos instructed his 8-9 yr old player to purposely strike the center of the opposing team before the 1st snap of the game in order to "send a message" to the other team.
The coach told a story of how he played that way back in high school.
High school age vs these 8-9 year old kids. Nowhere near identical.
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Well, like I said, my son's played since he was five...so from first grade through eighth. I know what we have experienced and other than his 4th grade year, everything has been cool. Yeah, they push them...it's football. But we don't live in Texas either. I would hate to think that the show's producers are telling the coaches to turn it up for the sake of the show...in the meantime, totally fucking up the kids in the process. But it wouldn't surprise me.
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Machado wrote:Did you watch any of the 1st two episodes? Not surprised several of the coaches have a military background. Why they believe yelling at the kids as if they were is basic training is sickening to see and pathetic
After watching those clips it's exactly what I experienced. Living next to and AFB half the parents are military so it's not shocking to see toddlers trained like little soldiers. Our local team consisted of 3 coaches and 2 assistants and maybe 3 other parents and wife's setting things up. seriously, that's what it's come too. The Head Coach was an MP on the Air Force Base while other parents would position themselves to sit on the league and city councils.

Shit is ridiculously out of control. Sure as fuck ain't about kids, it's all about WINNING!!!

I lasted around 2 weeks of practices before I stopped going then quit catching games halfway into the season. The team finished 2nd or 3rd and all they talked about was how disappointing the season was, horrible refs, need to get better kids from other city's next year. Even the kids didn't really know how to respond, they acted pissed because they didn't finish 1st. Many didn't want to play the next year but they were talked into it or forced to.

I remember playing peewee and POP but I don't remember my coach preparing me for Desert Storm and getting up in my grill like it was the Pro's. But I do remember having fun, something I didn't notice on the faces of these kids.....Unless they won, then it was all about screaming and acting badass, strutting and talking smack.

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The only thing I liked about that clip was the fact that not all the players get trophies at the end.
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DaveB wrote:Well, like I said, my son's played since he was five...so from first grade through eighth. I know what we have experienced and other than his 4th grade year, everything has been cool. Yeah, they push them...it's football. But we don't live in Texas either. I would hate to think that the show's producers are telling the coaches to turn it up for the sake of the show...in the meantime, totally fucking up the kids in the process. But it wouldn't surprise me.
That show isn't indicative of little kid football in Texas. Football is serious business here, sure, but most of the crazy stuff doesn't start until high school. I heard a guy on the radio last week that is in a local league say that the show producers had contacted them about doing it. He said the questionnaire they got was all about "do you have crazy parents? Are there fights in the stands? Do you have coaches that scream at the kids?" Etc.
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I'm sure it's not, Bane. You get that shit anywhere you go. All it takes is one or two over-the-top coaches to ruin the entire league. The two guys that caused problems with our team...the next year, they weren't allowed to be on the same team but they could both be had coaches. The year after, the league made them both assistants. It's funny because they're literally the only friends each of them have. They're always together at every game and no one else wants anything to do with them.
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