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vlad wrote:Trump is so butthurt about losing the popular vote he wants an investigation!

From one of his tweets:
I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....
Steve Bannon, Tiffany Trump, Steve Mnuchin. I'm sure the list will grow. :lol:
Kellyanne was on the Today show this morning and flatly stated that Tiffany told her she was only registered to vote in one state. So there. Cross her the fuck off that list.

Here is the thing I don't get about Trump investigating this. Doesn't he get that it undermines the down-ticket winners? If there was such fraud (3 million votes) wouldn't that also call into question some of the down ticket races?
Or does he think all 3million are from California?
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Our new proud product of the electoral college has single handedly moved the "doomsday clock" thirty seconds closer to midnight which is significant being that we are now at only at 2 1/2 minutes to the demise of the earth.

Thanks Trumptards!
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exitflagger wrote:Our new proud product of the electoral college has single handedly moved the "doomsday clock" thirty seconds closer to midnight which is significant being that we are now at only at 2 1/2 minutes to the demise of the earth.

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Turner Coates wrote:
exitflagger wrote:Our new proud product of the electoral college has single handedly moved the "doomsday clock" thirty seconds closer to midnight which is significant being that we are now at only at 2 1/2 minutes to the demise of the earth.

Thanks Trumptards!
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vlad wrote: A poem, by Richard Wilbur from about 1960 or so: <snip>
Thanks. That's a keeper.
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Pierce Foreskin wrote:
vlad wrote:Trump is so butthurt about losing the popular vote he wants an investigation!

From one of his tweets:
I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....
Steve Bannon, Tiffany Trump, Steve Mnuchin. I'm sure the list will grow. :lol:

Here is the thing I don't get about Trump investigating this. Doesn't he get that it undermines the down-ticket winners? If there was such fraud (3 million votes) wouldn't that also call into question some of the down ticket races?
Or does he think all 3million are from California?
His logic is that California and New York have a ton of illegals so therefore an investigation would reveal a massive amount of illegals voting. So no, it wouldn't affect the down ticket races that Republicans won because he assumes illegals would have voted Democratic. The problem with all this is that there simply isn't any evidence to support it. Voter fraud exists and always has, but not at the scale he's alleging. He also doesn't have the authority to use Executive Orders to start federal fishing expeditions into states with no evidence. There are potential Fourth, Fifth, and Tenth Amendment problems here. However, he (and his Justice Department) does have the authority to handle the sanctuary cities and immigration stuff since there is massive evidence of local governments violating federal law.
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If Mexico stops sending drugs to the US, it'll be the americans tearing down the wall!!!
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Looks to me like the anti-Trumpers are the ones eating shit. :D
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The Salt just continues..
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Grendel wrote:
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Looks to me like the anti-Trumpers are the ones eating shit. :D
You are a white trash idiot who is ruining our country. You are uneducated garbage.
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Grendel wrote:
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Looks to me like the anti-Trumpers are the ones eating shit. :D
You are a white trash idiot who is ruining our country. You are uneducated garbage.
100% correct.
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Fucking sucks that the "uneducated garbage" of America totally whipped your asses, huh?
You were beat by a bunch of idiots! LOL!
Uneducated garbage now controls the country you live in! LOL!
You will follow the rules made by uneducated garbage! :lol:
Uneducated garbage is currently gutting all your freebie social benefits. :lol:

Yep... Uneducated garbage fucking OWNED THE LOT OF YA'S!
Uneducated garbage is your boss for at least four years.
Your salty tears are a delicacy! Keep 'em coming!
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Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Fucking sucks that the "uneducated garbage" of America totally whipped your asses, huh?
You were beat by a bunch of idiots! LOL!
Uneducated garbage now controls the country you live in! LOL!
You will follow the rules made by uneducated garbage! :lol:
Uneducated garbage is currently gutting all your freebie social benefits. :lol:

Yep... Uneducated garbage fucking OWNED THE LOT OF YA'S!
Uneducated garbage is your boss for at least four years.
Your salty tears are a delicacy! Keep 'em coming!
White trash as fuck.

Whose tears were salty when you were telling everyone you were suing them for making fun of your job? Yours? Maybe?
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Rev. Johnny Tyler is kinda right in some sense.......Education doesn't really give you more common sense, but this is not about who won or who lost. He's being brain washed, manipulated, controlled like a puppet....& he happily accepts it.

Who better to straight things out for people struggling to make ends meet than a crooked billionaire and his croonies, right? I'm sure they'll bring justice and prosperity to all the oppressed.

Trying to block the sun with a finger is exactly what they are trying to do - block science, welfare, create imaginary enemies (oh yeah, Mexico is taking advantage of you people, really!!! Turn around and see, they are the ones to blame!!!)........just as Rev. Johnny Tyler masks his giant fears with guns, intolerance & neurotic behavior.
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote:
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Fucking sucks that the "uneducated garbage" of America totally whipped your asses, huh?
You were beat by a bunch of idiots! LOL!
Uneducated garbage now controls the country you live in! LOL!
You will follow the rules made by uneducated garbage! :lol:
Uneducated garbage is currently gutting all your freebie social benefits. :lol:

Yep... Uneducated garbage fucking OWNED THE LOT OF YA'S!
Uneducated garbage is your boss for at least four years.
Your salty tears are a delicacy! Keep 'em coming!
White trash as fuck.

Whose tears were salty when you were telling everyone you were suing them for making fun of your job? Yours? Maybe?
PFFt! LOL! :lol:
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Did The Cheeto sue anybody today?

Has he moved 1 step closer to building that wall?


All jokes aside, do Trump supporters really believe that spending all those Billions on a wall is good for the country?

Why not use funds to fix the roads and infrastructure that The Cheeto has complained about for years and years
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I found yesterdays suggested "20% import tax on all Mexican goods" quite a telling point - and one which was seemingly cheered on by some of his supporters. What will happen when they realise that it means that Mexican things will be 20% more expensive....for Americans to buy?
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Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Looks to me like the anti-Trumpers are the ones eating shit. :D

Hot shit sandwiches for all of them, on me!!!

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Ironman wrote:

Hot shit sandwiches for all of them, on me!!!

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You want hot shit sandwiches on you? Weird.
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Ironman wrote:
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:Looks to me like the anti-Trumpers are the ones eating shit. :D

Hot shit sandwiches for all of them, on me!!!

:lol:
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Machado wrote:The Cheeto
Does this saying give you some sort of erotic thrill? You're making posts just to say it, at this point. Okay, we get it. You have a cutesy little saying for Donald Trump. Great, great work, Taco. Really impressed. No need to keep creating post after post of saying absolutely nothing, just so you can milk a bit more horchata out of the ole mini churro by saying "the cheeto."

I want him to build the wall, at this point. Just out of fucking spite against you.
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Trump is making a believer outta me. I love this guy. He is so Sludgy, and I love that smug arrogant look on his face :lol:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 755714d3d7

President Trump signed an order Friday to suspend admission of all refugees for 120 days while a new system is put in place to tighten vetting for those from predominantly Muslim countries and give preference to religious minorities. Trump said that the goal is to screen out “radical Islamic terrorists” and that priority for admission would be given to Christians.

“We don’t want them here,” Trump said of terrorists in a signing ceremony at the Pentagon. “We only want to admit those into our country who will support our country and love deeply our people.”

In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network earlier Friday, Trump was asked whether he would prioritize persecuted Christians in the Middle East for admission as refugees, and he replied, “Yes.”

“They’ve been horribly treated,” he said. “Do you know if you were a Christian in Syria it was impossible, at least very tough, to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian it was almost impossible. And the reason that was so unfair — everybody was persecuted, in all fairness — but they were chopping off the heads of everybody, but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair.

“So we are going to help them.”


Since the beginning of the ­Syrian civil war and the rise of the Islamic State, many more Muslims than Christians have been killed or displaced because of the violence. A 2015 Washington Post poll found that 78 percent of Americans favored equal consideration for refugees regardless of religion.

The order was called “Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States” and contained a temporary entry ban that would affect citizens of seven countries — Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia.

[Trump’s refu­gee ban would alienate allies for U.S. troops, experts say ]

The order calls for a halt to the flow of refugees from Syria until further notice and suspends all refu­gee admissions for 120 days until more analysis can determine which countries harbor the greatest threat. The annual intake of refugees for fiscal 2017 would also fall to 50,000 from more than 100,000 authorized now, according to the order.

The order also included a new policy that states and localities should have a say in determining whether refugees can resettle there. It calls for the secretary of homeland security to propose a way to make their involvement routine. Governors and mayors, mostly Republicans, have objected to refugees, once they are admitted to the country, being resettled in their jurisdictions, often in small and medium-size cities where the cost of living is lower than it is in big coastal cities.

Earlier drafts of the order called for the creation of safe zones to protect civilians in Syria — a feature that could require committing thousands of ground troops. But in the final order, there was no mention of such zones.

The downsizing of the refu­gee program, which had grown under the Obama administration, fulfills Trump’s campaign pledge to start the “extreme vetting” of immigrants and refugees, even though the United States already conducts the most rigorous and drawn-out screening process in the world.

Syrians are subject to special attention because the Islamic State controls significant amounts of territory in their country. An estimated 11 million Syrians have fled their homes since the outbreak of fighting in 2011, with almost 5 million registered as refugees and more than 6 million internally displaced.

U.S. vetting has changed significantly since the refu­gee program was suspended for several months after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

After applicants register with the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, that agency refers some of the most vulnerable to the United States. They include single mothers and their children, victims of violence and people with severe medical conditions requiring sophisticated treatment. Last year, the UNHCR referred more than 34,000 applicants, up from 16,000 in 2015 and 10,000 the year before that.

[3 important facts about how the U.S. resettles Syrian refugees]

Syrians being considered for resettlement in the United States pass through a complex, multi­tiered background investigation. It involves biometric and database screening, personal interviews to look for inconsistencies in their stories, and security screenings by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the State Department.

The process typically takes nine months to two years to complete.

In the fiscal year that ended in October, the United States admitted 12,500 Syrian refugees. An additional 3,500 were admitted for resettlement in the last three months of 2016. The overwhelming majority were women and children.


Now, with Trump’s executive ­order, the flow grinds to an immediate halt. People who have sold their belongings in preparation for an imminent departure may not be allowed to board their flights to the United States. It was not immediately clear what would happen to those refugees already in the air when the order was signed.

Some refu­gees were finding their appointments with DHS officials canceled even before the order came into force , said Linda Hartke, head of the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service. Unaccompanied refu­gee minors living in camps, helped by the group, now cannot fly to the United States to live with foster families, she said.

Refugee advocates slammed the order as cruel, while proponents of tighter immigration controls said it would protect Americans from radical Islamists who might try to sneak into the United States as refugees and launch an attack.

“The ban on refugees will severely cripple the U.S. refugee program, leaving thousands who face life-threatening danger without humanitarian protection,” said Greg Chen, director of advocacy for the American Immigration Lawyers Association. “This policy does not make us safer. It shows weakness and withdraws our nation from the position as global leader when so many refugees urgently need protection.”

The International Rescue Committee called suspending refu­gee resettlement a “harmful and hasty” decision that would affect thousands of innocent people — mostly women and children — awaiting resettlement to the United States. “America has the strongest, most successful resettlement program in the world,” said David Miliband, head of the IRC. “Certified by successive administrations, the U.S. resettlement program makes it harder to get to the United States as a refugee than any other route.”

But skeptics of current vetting procedures question how effective they can be for refugees from a war-torn country such as Syria.

“If we’re looking for the perfect way to deal with this, I’m not sure it exists,” said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). “What we need to do is, the best we can, balancing the competing obligations of protecting people in imminent peril and the safety of the American people.”


The UNHCR has warned for several years that the world is undergoing a refu­gee and migration crisis of epic proportions, comparable only to the period after World War II. Some analysts caution that the decision to suspend refu­gee admissions to a country that defines itself as a nation of immigrants could lead other governments to follow suit and undermine U.S. credibility.

“If you want ironclad guarantees, you’d have to stop all immigration, business travelers and students,” said David Martin, who worked on immigration and refu­gee policy at the State Department and DHS. “If you’re going to say you’re not going to admit anybody to the United States, that’s surrendering a key part of our heritage and blinding ourselves to genuine human suffering.”
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Sadly, this may be more of a possibility than people realize. When someone like Trump has spent most of his whole life lying and that person has no loyalty to truth, there is probably a separation from the reality of facts. Add to that an insulation from the world of consequences through money and it's easy to see how someone could totally develop a completely deranged perspective.

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The 9/11 hijackers were not from the countries listed on the ban. Now what?

Also, it's funny that the Arab countries NOT listed are where Trump has business interests. Coincidence or nah?
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Nobody from Saudia Arabia, where 15 of the 19 terrorists who perpetrated 9/11 came from.... Interesting.

So refugees can claim to be Christian, go through the vetting process and be welcomed with orange arms in Drumpf's America? What if, like the new president, they lie?

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This "Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States" executive order is the height of bullshit. Just pure racist, unscrupulous, calculated fearmongering. "Pure evil", if you will. There's nothing to gain but deflect the American public's attention to a foreign boogeyman from being fucked domestically.

First off, none of the 9/11 nations (Saudi, UAE, Egypt, Lebanon) are on his ban list. And in the fiscal year 2016 the USA admitted 37.521 Christian refugees and 38.901 Muslim refugees. Not only is that ridiculously few, it proves your president flat-out lies to justify executive orders. Classic fascist tactic. You're turning into an authoritarian state. This is precisely what Hitler did.

So now you refuse refuge, a basic human right, to innocent people from nations you're attacking. Valid visas don't even count anymore (you know, "proper channels"). Really, five of the seven random nations that pose no attestable threat to you, were bombed by the USA in recent weeks. All the refugees you currently create by bombing their asses now have to flee to other nations that Trump, in turn, scoffs at for saving them. Only an idiot doesn't see how this actively strengthens the position of the IS to boot.

There's no wiggle room and no different ways to look at it: anybody who stands behind this shit is human scum. Anybody supporting Trump is directly responsible for turning the world into a shittier, more dangerous place.
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Domestic terrorism: "Well, there's no way that could have been prevented, the man was mentally ill."

Foreign terrorism: "It's just common sense to have these bans."
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