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Don’t like to talk politics usually but seriously I am embarrassed as an American that this is the choices we have for president
Goodness what a joke we are as a country
The 2 party system has destroyed this country

No what trump or what about Biden

They are both a joke

TexDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:57 pm They are both a joke

Biden is, unfortunately, a wimp

There's so much to hammer that orange makeup wearing piece of shit with, and Biden just plays soft

Get that fascist Mango Mussolini by throat dammit!!

The fact checkers are creaming Trump. Sure wish the fucking CANDIDATE would step up a little.

this is very entertaining but also very sad at the same time lol

BlackCrypt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:12 pm Proud Boys, stand back and stand aside.

I heard "Stand back and stand by."

BlackCrypt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:12 pm Proud Boys, stand back and stand aside.

"Proud Boys, stand back and stand BY"...hardly a condemnation.

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:13 pm

BlackCrypt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:12 pm Proud Boys, stand back and stand aside.

I heard "Stand back and stand by."

That's what it was. My bad. But, yeah, he did not disavow at all.

I know this: I don't think I'm going to vote for Hunter Biden.

Mazerati wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:09 pm this is very entertaining but also very sad at the same time lol

No. Just pathetic

I am ashamed of our political system
People are voting against ideologies instead of for candidates
I long for respectable disagreement and compromise
I have no hope for America after this debate

Neither of these clowns can bring unity.
It’s over.

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:16 pm I know this: I don't think I'm going to vote for Hunter Biden.

A cokehead with fuck-you-money from the mayor of Moscow? Sounds fun, to me.

TexDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm Neither of these clowns can bring unity.
It’s over.

This phase of the experiment that is the United States of America is over.
The next phase will be......uh.......different.
We'll reinvent stuff as we go along.

Biden's botox is the real hero of the night.

Turner Coates wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:29 pm

TexDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm Neither of these clowns can bring unity.
It’s over.

This phase of the experiment that is the United States of America is over.
The next phase will be......uh.......different.
We'll reinvent stuff as we go along.

I agree
Just not sure what the next phase is
Not sure anyone else does either

It's just a replay of 2016 again.

Trump thinks he's going to lose so he's going on the offense with "voter fraud," which his commission found no proof of after '16.

He was as shocked as anyone when he won.

He'll probably be less shocked this time, but he never comes across like he's confident he's going to win. So fucking weird. Everybody's cheating him, everything's rigged--then the dumb motherfucker wins.

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:13 pm

BlackCrypt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:12 pm Proud Boys, stand back and stand aside.

I heard "Stand back and stand by."

I missed this whole exchange.
What was the question?

Metal Sludge wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:13 pm

BlackCrypt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:12 pm Proud Boys, stand back and stand aside.

I heard "Stand back and stand by."

I missed this whole exchange.
What was the question?

Wallace asked Trump if he would condemn white supremacists and right-wing militias.

To be fair, I heard him say "Okay, I'll do it. What do you want me to call them?"

Wallace repeated and Trump said "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by." Which just sounds like he wants them to stay armed and wait for some kind of go-ahead.

For a second, I was like "Oh shit! He's calling out the Proud Boys!," then I was like "Oh. He's pretty much doing the opposite."

Don Jr. being interviewed on CBS, right now. Dodged the question of what was meant by "stand down and stand by" like an oncoming train.

TexDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:36 pm

Turner Coates wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:29 pm

TexDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm Neither of these clowns can bring unity.
It’s over.

This phase of the experiment that is the United States of America is over.
The next phase will be......uh.......different.
We'll reinvent stuff as we go along.

I agree
Just not sure what the next phase is
Not sure anyone else does either

We've recovered from a civil war, world wars, a great depression, epidemics, natural disasters and now this.
What the hell do we call it?

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:46 pm

Metal Sludge wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:13 pm

I heard "Stand back and stand by."

I missed this whole exchange.
What was the question?

Wallace asked Trump if he would condemn white supremacists and right-wing militias.

To be fair, I heard him say "Okay, I'll do it. What do you want me to call them?"

Wallace repeated and Trump said "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by." Which just sounds like he wants them to stay armed and wait for some kind of go-ahead.

For a second, I was like "Oh shit! He's calling out the Proud Boys!," then I was like "Oh. He's pretty much doing the opposite."

Thanks.
I just heard Joy Reid and Nicole Wallace explain it in detail, now that this shitshow is over.

Everything Trump is involved in turns to shit. This thing had no chance of being anything but what it was. Put researched facts in his face and he denies them. Ask him the easiest two softballs (disavow white supremacists and accept election results) and he CAN'T FUCKING give the right answers.

How does this debate change anything? Everybody knows Trump is a lying delusional idiot and everybody knows Biden is not a great speaker. Everybody knows the boat is leaking, everybody knows the captain lied.

All I know is if you sit there and think you want four more years of this shit, you're seriously fucked in the head.

The takeaway I'm getting is NOBODY seemed to enjoy watching it. Trump came across as insane, Biden came across as weak.

Where I think Trump lost his edge was by hammering the "radical left" thing and forcing Biden to come out and say he doesn't support the Green New Deal or Medicare for All, leaving Trump to say "You just lost the radical left." HE NEVER HAD THEM TO BEGIN WITH. Instead, he allowed Biden to look moderate, which shoots a big hole in Trump's entire campaign strategy: Present Joe Biden as a radical.

Then Trump was tossed his one softball of the night--Wallace otherwise hammered him pretty hard--when asked if he would condemn white supremacists and he whiffed.

But Trump's the more aggressive speaker, and the Dems somehow picked the one person on this planet less articulate than Trump. I think Trump's numbers are probably going to go up and the commanding leads Biden had are going to shrink.

Now I have a headache. I feel like I just got Scanned for 90 minutes.

Not a single Trump supporter thinks anything other than that Trump just fucking annihilated Biden. Biden saying he doesn't support the Green New Deal will make exactly zero difference to Trump supporters and their opinion of him as King of the Radical Left. Trump says it, so it's true. Period.

Twitter is blowing up about the Proud Boys thing.

The Proud Boys themselves are going nuts. The President just legitimized them. A neo-fascist white supremacist group!

When someone tells Joe Biden who they are, it could mean trouble in the next debate.

Yes I realize Biden didn't win (although I don't think he lost either) but I've been waiting for somebody to tell Trump to shut up straight to his face. It didn't faze Trump, who probably secretly wishes he would shut up sometimes, but it's the next best thing to watching him get punched in the face.

Well, if this really is signaling a decline towards a state of nature, now might be the time to catch up on some of the squirrel hunting tips trending on the OGB.

Watched the debate tonight. I was worried in the beginning. Trump was bulldozing, but over the 90 minutes, Biden wisely didn't take the bait and go tit for tat and play Trump's game. He addressed the issues as much as possible and looked at the camera and kept it focused on the people.

I think people who want to see Trump as strong and the winner tonight were already inclined to do so. But I think a lot of others will begin to see more in what Biden did tonight than may have been apparent on the surface at first. His defense of his sons really laid down the hammer while being heartfelt. When he finally said, "It's not about my family or his family, it's about *your* family. It's about *you*," that was it right there. He was about *us* and you felt it.

Also, Chris Wallace was a dud moderator. That gotcha question about Biden contacting Portland's mayor? What the fuck? Biden answered perfectly. In the next debate, they're gonna have to cut the mics off. Biden will be able to adapt, Trump won't, but oh well...