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Re: President Trump
If Flynn is looking for immunity, he has something to spill. The FBI is not going to be interested in cutting a deal with him unless he has some info the agency really wants.
But the question is what the agency's aim is with regards to the administration. The FBI just released 9/11 images of the Pentagon for some reason, maybe so Trump and his team can get people riled up about "the enemy" while deflecting from other matters. Based on the Hillary email probe just before the election, a totally partisan move, I think Chuck Schumer was onto something when he said the FBI (especially Comey) can't necessarily be trusted.
But the question is what the agency's aim is with regards to the administration. The FBI just released 9/11 images of the Pentagon for some reason, maybe so Trump and his team can get people riled up about "the enemy" while deflecting from other matters. Based on the Hillary email probe just before the election, a totally partisan move, I think Chuck Schumer was onto something when he said the FBI (especially Comey) can't necessarily be trusted.
Re: President Trump
If you want to have an honest discussion, I'm happy to have one. I listed the biggest current Left/Right sources. There are other conservative/liberal outlets.exitflagger wrote: This was obviously the endgame when entities like Fox and Breitbart were established. Everybody knows it's always been the media's role to keep government in check so how does somebody thirsty for power go about getting the system in a stranglehold for their own gain? You backtrack and understand that the media has to be controlled in order to do it. So if the far-right is constantly upended by the media simply telling it like it is, they have to be delegitimized. It is the goal of this cockamamie "fair and balanced" approach to portray things exactly as your stupid duped ass sees it: Fox and Brietbart for the right and EVERYBODY else on the left. If the alt-right mouthpieces get dismissed, you point the finger right back the other way and try to put all of them on the same level.
That is not the way it really is and you know it.
For you to suggest any news source today is without bias is kinda silly. The news media is largely still in business because deep pockets with agendas made up the lost revenue in circulation killed by the "free" Internet. To suggest NBC is somehow legit or without bias and Fox News is fake is not accurate...at all.
In this thread alone, we discussed Trump adding 1 billion to an initial 900 million investment. Trump tweeted Jobs, all presidents tout their successes. NBC and opposition media spun it negatively. Seriously, there was no reason to spin that story negatively but they found a way to downplay or delegitimize that good news. Now maybe Fox News would've played that same role if it was Obama's good news. I'll concede that, but don't tell me one side is being a watch dog and the other side is just biased, not true. I'm willing to admit my news I agree with generally is also biased, you're not.
As far as some insight into big money going into News (for control purposes), just look at George Soros and where chunks of his money goes:
http://www.mrc.org/special-reports/geor ... ve-summary
Now this happens on both sides but everyone talked about News being free in the internet age. This is what "free" News looks like. Propoganda and lack of diversity of opinion on each individual outlet.
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Re: President Trump
You're hopeless. You still have no clue what "fake news" refers to. (Hint: It has nothing to do with "bias", neither real nor imagined)radiobed wrote: To suggest NBC is somehow legit or without bias and Fox News is fake is not accurate...at all.
You also have no clue about what is and is not "accurate" either.


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Re: President Trump
When did we discuss this?radiobed wrote:
In this thread alone, we discussed Trump adding 1 billion to an initial 900 million investment.


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Re: President Trump
It was debunked, not discussed.Danzig in the Dark wrote:When did we discuss this?radiobed wrote:
In this thread alone, we discussed Trump adding 1 billion to an initial 900 million investment.
While Trump was quick to take credit for the investment, the plan is "consistent with what we announced previously," Joe Hinrichs, Ford's President of the Americas, told NBC News
Since the beginning of the year, Ford has announced about $1.9 billion in new U.S. investments. With one exception, all those moves date back to well before the election of 2016, noted Hinrichs. The one exception was the decision to start producing electrified vehicles at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant. That was locked into place in December
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/t ... it-n739476
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Re: President Trump
Were you referring to the 2015 Ford deal, radiosped?DEATH ROW JOE wrote:It was debunked, not discussed.Danzig in the Dark wrote:When did we discuss this?radiobed wrote:
In this thread alone, we discussed Trump adding 1 billion to an initial 900 million investment.
While Trump was quick to take credit for the investment, the plan is "consistent with what we announced previously," Joe Hinrichs, Ford's President of the Americas, told NBC News
Since the beginning of the year, Ford has announced about $1.9 billion in new U.S. investments. With one exception, all those moves date back to well before the election of 2016, noted Hinrichs. The one exception was the decision to start producing electrified vehicles at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant. That was locked into place in December
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/t ... it-n739476


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Re: President Trump
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Re: President Trump
You mean like Bryan Pagliano, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel and Paul Combetta provided such a wealth of information on Hillary Clinton?TenBenny wrote:If Flynn is looking for immunity, he has something to spill. The FBI is not going to be interested in cutting a deal with him unless he has some info the agency really wants.

Re: President Trump
Trump got so rattled today after getting a Flynn question, he walked out forgetting to sign his executive order. What's the matter? You nervous about something?
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Re: President Trump
What you mean is their testimony demonstrated no crime on her part. Unlike Flynn, none of them volunteered to throw her under the bus.cantstopthemusic wrote:You mean like Bryan Pagliano, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel and Paul Combetta provided such a wealth of information on Hillary Clinton?TenBenny wrote:If Flynn is looking for immunity, he has something to spill. The FBI is not going to be interested in cutting a deal with him unless he has some info the agency really wants.



Re: President Trump
This is the moment I decide the people in this thread are too stupid to have a meaningful conversation with.Danzig in the Dark wrote:Were you referring to the 2015 Ford deal, radiosped?DEATH ROW JOE wrote:It was debunked, not discussed.Danzig in the Dark wrote: When did we discuss this?
While Trump was quick to take credit for the investment, the plan is "consistent with what we announced previously," Joe Hinrichs, Ford's President of the Americas, told NBC News
Since the beginning of the year, Ford has announced about $1.9 billion in new U.S. investments. With one exception, all those moves date back to well before the election of 2016, noted Hinrichs. The one exception was the decision to start producing electrified vehicles at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant. That was locked into place in December
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/t ... it-n739476
I've literally given video TWICE of Ford exec Joe Hinrichs explaining the additional 1 billion in investment. Fuck, I even gave you the minutes and seconds of the Flat Rock plant, data center and additional expansion to the 2015 plans.
Joe's article is fake news because it hides the real details. Just like Joe's election details were all fake, remember when he said Trump wouldn't even win Texas. Or how about when he said the market would crash after Trump won. Then he said it was up but would've been up even more if Hillary were elected. Then Trump was on the verge of being impeached because of his Russia ties.
I got news for you guys, Joe is a fraud. His stories are bogus. I tried to warn you guys.
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Re: President Trump
Really? Because you say this just about every day.radiobed wrote:This is the moment I decide the people in this thread are too stupid to have a meaningful conversation with.
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Re: President Trump
Long ago, we decided you were too stupid to engage in meaningful conversation, that is why we mock you. Your news is fake because it is made up, radiosped. No Ford execs gave Trump any credit whatsoever. Your beliefs, assumptions and opinions are not facts, radiosped. Correlation is not causation, radiosped. We watched the video. We read the news. it was nothing like you claim, yet you desperately cling to your lies. Sad.radiobed wrote: This is the moment I decide the people in this thread are too stupid to have a meaningful conversation with.
I've literally given video TWICE of Ford exec Joe Hinrichs explaining the additional 1 billion in investment. Fuck, I even gave you the minutes and seconds of the Flat Rock plant, data center and additional expansion to the 2015 plans.
Joe's article is fake news because it hides the real details. Just like Joe's election details were all fake, remember when he said Trump wouldn't even win Texas. Or how about when he said the market would crash after Trump won. Then he said it was up but would've been up even more if Hillary were elected. Then Trump was on the verge of being impeached because of his Russia ties.
I got news for you guys, Joe is a fraud. His stories are bogus. I tried to warn you guys.


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Re: President Trump

Unbelievably, 20 Americans own as much wealth as the bottom half of America. One family, the Waltons, owns more wealth than the bottom 42%.
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Re: President Trump
Business is booming, baby! The Trump Effect!grishnak boss wrote:![]()
Unbelievably, 20 Americans own as much wealth as the bottom half of America. One family, the Waltons, owns more wealth than the bottom 42%.
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Re: President Trump
We're not worthy.

As long as I'm learning something, I figure I'm OK - it's a decent day.
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Re: President Trump
Imagine what happens if the Republican Congress shuts down a Republican Govt.
#PIGFUCK
Government Shutdown Odds Rise To 40% According To Deutsche Bank
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... tsche-bank
With rumblings growing about a possible Washington shutdown on April 28 when the current continuing resolution expires, Deutsche Bank's Washington expert Frank Kelly yesterday hosted a client call on the political implications of last week's events.
He suggested that the surprise withdrawal of the Republican healthcare bill on Friday is a sign of the continued division within the Republican Party and is perhaps a precursor to growing political and policy risks in the US, and as discussed yesterday, he notes that even before considering the difficulties involved in passing President Trump’s tax reforms, there exists a very real possibility of a government shutdown on April 28 when the current continuing resolutions set to expire.
According to Kelly, there is a significant chance that the Freedom Caucus will reject a new continuing resolution due to their opposition to the continued funding of Planned Parenthood and Obamacare, while Trump’s spending plans for a border wall will see opposition from both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate.
As a result, Frank estimates the probability of a government shutdown at roughly 40% and notes that the next 2 weeks will be critical to watch.
Beyond the risks of a government shutdown, policy uncertainty continues to manifest itself in the form of questions surrounding Trump’s tax reform bill: Frank expects that the controversial Border Adjustment Tax (BAT) will not even make it into the final bill (at least not in its current form) and that the new corporate tax rate will likely be closer to 25% rather than the expected 15-20% range. Also despite the failure of the healthcare bill there is unlikely to be any acceleration in the proceedings on tax reform to fill the gap. The bill remains likely to go to Congress sometime in the first two weeks of May, and will likely only be picked up by the Senate in September.
Given these developing uncertainties, Frank suggests that markets should downgrade their expectations of progress going forward.
Meanwhile, in its latest morning note JPM takes the opposite view and writes that the risks of a shutdown are falling as Republicans will propose a bill void of some of the more controversial spending proposals, and it sounds like the GOP could be moving towards a “small” tax bill (note that Gary Cohn is expected to brief Trump on tax options this Thurs 3/30). As a result, and unlike DB's recommendation to trim optimism, JPM suggests that "the broader domestic equity macro backdrop remains the same as before.
#PIGFUCK
Government Shutdown Odds Rise To 40% According To Deutsche Bank
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... tsche-bank
With rumblings growing about a possible Washington shutdown on April 28 when the current continuing resolution expires, Deutsche Bank's Washington expert Frank Kelly yesterday hosted a client call on the political implications of last week's events.
He suggested that the surprise withdrawal of the Republican healthcare bill on Friday is a sign of the continued division within the Republican Party and is perhaps a precursor to growing political and policy risks in the US, and as discussed yesterday, he notes that even before considering the difficulties involved in passing President Trump’s tax reforms, there exists a very real possibility of a government shutdown on April 28 when the current continuing resolutions set to expire.
According to Kelly, there is a significant chance that the Freedom Caucus will reject a new continuing resolution due to their opposition to the continued funding of Planned Parenthood and Obamacare, while Trump’s spending plans for a border wall will see opposition from both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate.
As a result, Frank estimates the probability of a government shutdown at roughly 40% and notes that the next 2 weeks will be critical to watch.
Beyond the risks of a government shutdown, policy uncertainty continues to manifest itself in the form of questions surrounding Trump’s tax reform bill: Frank expects that the controversial Border Adjustment Tax (BAT) will not even make it into the final bill (at least not in its current form) and that the new corporate tax rate will likely be closer to 25% rather than the expected 15-20% range. Also despite the failure of the healthcare bill there is unlikely to be any acceleration in the proceedings on tax reform to fill the gap. The bill remains likely to go to Congress sometime in the first two weeks of May, and will likely only be picked up by the Senate in September.
Given these developing uncertainties, Frank suggests that markets should downgrade their expectations of progress going forward.
Meanwhile, in its latest morning note JPM takes the opposite view and writes that the risks of a shutdown are falling as Republicans will propose a bill void of some of the more controversial spending proposals, and it sounds like the GOP could be moving towards a “small” tax bill (note that Gary Cohn is expected to brief Trump on tax options this Thurs 3/30). As a result, and unlike DB's recommendation to trim optimism, JPM suggests that "the broader domestic equity macro backdrop remains the same as before.
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Re: President Trump
LMFAO @ "demonstrated no crime on her part." Mills SAT IN ON Hillary Clinton's FBI interrogation. Pretty easy for all the aides to keep their stories straight in doing so.Danzig in the Dark wrote:What you mean is their testimony demonstrated no crime on her part. Unlike Flynn, none of them volunteered to throw her under the bus.cantstopthemusic wrote:You mean like Bryan Pagliano, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel and Paul Combetta provided such a wealth of information on Hillary Clinton?TenBenny wrote:If Flynn is looking for immunity, he has something to spill. The FBI is not going to be interested in cutting a deal with him unless he has some info the agency really wants.
Also ....
Gee, THAT really sounds like being a cooperative witness. She shouldn't have been granted immunity at all ... nor should the others.In a civil deposition ordered by a federal judge, Mills frequently invoked the attorney-client privilege to avoid answering questions about Clinton's email setup. When asked about the email setup and in particular conversations that she might have had with Clinton's IT specialist, Bryan Pagliano—who invoked the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying—Mills refused to answer, claiming those conversations were privileged attorney-client communication.
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Re: President Trump
Republicans defending Trump while still trying to desperately hold on to their Republican values.


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Re: President Trump
Is she in jail?cantstopthemusic wrote:LMFAO @ "demonstrated no crime on her part." Mills SAT IN ON Hillary Clinton's FBI interrogation. Pretty easy for all the aides to keep their stories straight in doing so.Danzig in the Dark wrote:What you mean is their testimony demonstrated no crime on her part. Unlike Flynn, none of them volunteered to throw her under the bus.cantstopthemusic wrote:
You mean like Bryan Pagliano, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel and Paul Combetta provided such a wealth of information on Hillary Clinton?
Also ....
Gee, THAT really sounds like being a cooperative witness. She shouldn't have been granted immunity at all ... nor should the others.In a civil deposition ordered by a federal judge, Mills frequently invoked the attorney-client privilege to avoid answering questions about Clinton's email setup. When asked about the email setup and in particular conversations that she might have had with Clinton's IT specialist, Bryan Pagliano—who invoked the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying—Mills refused to answer, claiming those conversations were privileged attorney-client communication.


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Re: President Trump
Chuck Todd: Trump On The Brink Of "Lame Duck" Presidency
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... dency.html
You have a presidency right now that I think is, it's beyond saying it's in crisis mode, it's, you know, it's on the brink, the question is on the brink of what? Is it on the brink of collapse? Is it on the brink of being a lame duck presidency? It feels lame-duckish right now.
You've got a stalled agenda. Republicans who have no fear of this president right now. They don't think there's a political penalty to buck him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... dency.html
You have a presidency right now that I think is, it's beyond saying it's in crisis mode, it's, you know, it's on the brink, the question is on the brink of what? Is it on the brink of collapse? Is it on the brink of being a lame duck presidency? It feels lame-duckish right now.
You've got a stalled agenda. Republicans who have no fear of this president right now. They don't think there's a political penalty to buck him.

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Re: President Trump
#JOBKILLA
#TRUMPSLUMP
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellane ... ted-states
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
#TRUMPSLUMP
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellane ... ted-states
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
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Re: President Trump
#TotalloadofbsDEATH ROW JOE wrote:#JOBKILLA
#TRUMPSLUMP
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellane ... ted-states
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
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Re: President Trump
Wanna bet?cantstopthemusic wrote:#TotalloadofbsDEATH ROW JOE wrote:#JOBKILLA
#TRUMPSLUMP
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellane ... ted-states
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.


Re: President Trump
You don't think Trump's attempts at a travel ban could possibly hurt tourism? Forget politics for a moment and think about it. If I were from another country and were considering visiting the US, I certainly wouldn't do it right now.cantstopthemusic wrote:#TotalloadofbsDEATH ROW JOE wrote:#JOBKILLA
#TRUMPSLUMP
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellane ... ted-states
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
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Re: President Trump
Don't blame Trump's travel ban (which includes only terrorist-harboring countries) when the fact of the matter is that it was 9/11 that damaged America's tourist industry... An act perpetrated by the same group of radicals Trump is trying to block.
And you fools want to just open the floodgates...
And you fools want to just open the floodgates...