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I dont know if Trump is just in way over his head, or he is trying to get "fired" so he can go back to his old life. The stuff he does and tweets about, makes no sense, is he that fucking insane??

I am not sure whats worse, him becoming president, or the people that bought into his bullshit. Its like he sold the voters the Brooklyn Bridge, and the voters said, ok we will buy it.

He wont last another year.
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I would probably say that Lincoln and Kennedy were treated a little more unfairly.
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote:I would probably say that Lincoln and Kennedy were treated a little more unfairly.
They weren't assassinated. That was #fakenews. Bigly!
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Special counsel has been assigned. Let's get it on.
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Former FBI Director Robert Mueller. Trump is so fucked. Don't expect any leaks on this case for awhile and don't expect the Comey memos to be released until this is almost over.
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When Donnie Dickweed gets bounced out of the Whitehouse on his giant ass, I want to get a custom made red hat that says "NOW America's great again".
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Rageman wrote:Former FBI Director Robert Mueller. Trump is so fucked. Don't expect any leaks on this case for awhile and don't expect the Comey memos to be released until this is almost over.
The fuckin' thing about Comey is that when this is all over, if he somehow becomes the hero of Trump's downfall, someone's going to have a hell of a time piecing together the portrait of a man who was both the hero America needed and the villain America *didn't* need before the election.
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Rageman wrote:Former FBI Director Robert Mueller. Trump is so fucked. Don't expect any leaks on this case for awhile and don't expect the Comey memos to be released until this is almost over.
The fuckin' thing about Comey is that when this is all over, if he somehow becomes the hero of Trump's downfall, someone's going to have a hell of a time piecing together the portrait of a man who was both the hero America needed and the villain America *didn't* need before the election.
Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier. Comey has played a big role, good and bad, throughout this past year. It may continue, if he testifies or speaks out some other way. I think his actions (and the last one, in Oct especially) led to Trump and now he may be the one the helps bring him down.
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House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... c35eefcf2f

KIEV, Ukraine — A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the U.S. Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi­mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

The remarks remained secret for nearly a year.

The conversation provides a glimpse at the internal views of GOP leaders who now find themselves under mounting pressure over the conduct of President Trump. The exchange shows that the Republican leadership in the House privately discussed Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election and Trump’s relationship to Putin, but wanted to keep their concerns secret. It is difficult to tell from the recording the extent to which the remarks were meant to be taken literally.

The House leadership has so far stood by the White House as it has lurched from one crisis to another, much of the turmoil fueled by contacts between Trump or his associates with Russia.

House Republican leaders have so far resisted calls for the appointment of an independent commission or a special prosecutor to investigate Russian interference, though pressure has been mounting on them to do so after Trump’s firing of FBI Director James B. Comey and the disclosure that the president shared intelligence with Russian diplomats.

Late Wednesday, Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein announced he had appointed Robert S. Mueller III, a former prosecutor who served as the FBI director from 2001 to 2013, as special counsel to oversee the Russia probe.

Evan McMullin, who in his role as policy director to the House Republican Conference participated in the June 15 conversation, said: “It’s true that Majority Leader McCarthy said that he thought candidate Trump was on the Kremlin’s payroll. Speaker Ryan was concerned about that leaking.”

McMullin ran for president last year as an independent and has been a vocal critic of Trump.

When initially asked to comment on the exchange, Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Ryan, said: “That never happened,” and Matt Sparks, a spokesman for McCarthy, said: “The idea that McCarthy would assert this is absurd and false.”

After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: “This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor. No one believed the majority leader was seriously asserting that Donald Trump or any of our members were being paid by the Russians. What’s more, the speaker and leadership team have repeatedly spoken out against Russia’s interference in our election, and the House continues to investigate that activity.”

“This was a failed attempt at humor,” Sparks said.


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Russian State-Run Bank Financed Deal Involving Trump Hotel Partner


Russian-Canadian developer put money into Toronto project after receiving hundreds of millions from deal involving VEB
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VEB, a Russian state-run bank under scrutiny by U.S. investigators, financed a deal involving Donald Trump’s onetime partner in a Toronto hotel tower at a key moment for the project, according to people familiar with the transaction.
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Take his resorts off of the itinerary. Stick his stupid fat ass at Camp David when he wants to get away.

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So, we decided to test the cybersecurity of Trump’s favorite hangouts ourselves.

Our first stop was Mar-a-Lago, a Trump country club in Palm Beach, Florida, where the president has spent most weekends since taking office. Driving past the club, we picked up the signal for a Wi-Fi-enabled combination printer and scanner that has been accessible since at least February 2016, according to a public Wi-Fi database.

An open printer may sound innocuous, but it can be used by hackers for everything from capturing all the documents sent to the device to trying to infiltrate the entire network.

To prevent such attacks, the Defense Information Systems Agency, which secures the White House and other military networks, forbids installing printers that anyone can connect to from outside networks. It also warns against using printers that do more than printing, such as faxing. “If an attacker gains network access to one of these devices, a wide range of exploits may be possible,” the agency warns in its security guide.

We also were able to detect a misconfigured and unencrypted router, which could potentially provide a gateway for hackers.

To get a better line of sight, we rented a boat and piloted it to within sight of the club. There, we picked up signals from the club’s wireless networks, three of which were protected with a weak and outmoded form of encryption known as WEP. In 2005, an FBI agent publicly broke this type of encryption in minutes.

By comparison, the military limits the signal strength of networks at places such as Camp David and the White House so that they are not reachable from a car driving by. It also requires wireless networks to use the strongest available form of encryption.

From our desks in New York, we were also able to determine that the club’s website hosts a database with an insecure login page that is not protected by standard internet encryption. Login forms like this are considered a severe security risk, according to the Defense Information Systems Agency.

Without encryption, spies could eavesdrop on the network until a club employee logs in, and then steal his or her username and password. They then could download a database that appears to include sensitive information on the club’s members and their families, according to videos posted by the club’s software provider.

This is “bad, very bad,” said Jeremiah Grossman, chief of security strategy for cybersecurity firm SentinelOne, when we described Mar-a-Lago’s systems. “I’d assume the data is already stolen and systems compromised.”

A few days later, we took our equipment to another Trump club in Bedminster, N.J. During the transition, Trump interviewed candidates for top administration positions there, including James Mattis, now secretary of defense.

We drove on a dirt access road through the middle of the golf course and spotted two open Wi-Fi networks, “TrumpMembers” and “WelcomeToTrumpNationalGolfClub,” that did not require a password to join.

Such open networks allow anyone within range to scoop up all unencrypted internet activity taking place there, which could, on insecure sites, include usernames, passwords, and emails.

Robert Graham, an Atlanta, Ga. cybersecurity expert, said that hackers could use the open Wi-Fi to remotely turn on the microphones and cameras of devices connected to the network. “What you’re describing is typical hotel security,” he said, but “it’s pretty concerning” that an attacker could listen to sensitive national security conversations.

Two days after we visited the Bedminster club, Trump arrived for a weekend stay.

Then we visited the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., where Trump often dines with his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner, whose responsibilities range from Middle East diplomacy to revamping the federal bureaucracy. We surveyed the networks from a Starbucks in the hotel basement.

From there, we could tell there were two Wi-Fi networks at the hotel protected with what’s known as a captive portal. These login screens are often used at airports and hotels to ensure that only paying customers can access the network.

However, we gained access to both networks just by typing “457” into the room number field. Because we provided a room number, the system assumed we were guests. We looked up the hotel’s public IP address before logging off.

From our desks in New York, we could also tell that the hotel is using a server that is accessible from the public internet. This server is running software that was released almost 13 years ago.

Finally, we visited the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., where the president sometimes plays golf. From the parking lot, we recognized three encrypted wireless networks, an encrypted wireless phone, and two printers with open Wi-Fi access.

The Trump club websites are hosted by an Ohio-based company called Clubessential. It offers everything from back-office management and member communications to tee time and room reservations.

In a 2014 presentation, a company sales director warned that the club industry as a whole is “too lax” in managing and protecting passwords. There has been a “rising number of attacks on club websites over the last two years,” according to the presentation. Clubessential “performed [an] audit of security in the club industry” and “found thousands of sensitive documents from clubs exposed on [the] Internet,” such as “lists of members and staff, and their contact info; board minutes, financial statements, etc.”
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vlad wrote:
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Rageman wrote:Former FBI Director Robert Mueller. Trump is so fucked. Don't expect any leaks on this case for awhile and don't expect the Comey memos to be released until this is almost over.
The fuckin' thing about Comey is that when this is all over, if he somehow becomes the hero of Trump's downfall, someone's going to have a hell of a time piecing together the portrait of a man who was both the hero America needed and the villain America *didn't* need before the election.
Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier. Comey has played a big role, good and bad, throughout this past year. It may continue, if he testifies or speaks out some other way. I think his actions (and the last one, in Oct especially) led to Trump and now he may be the one the helps bring him down.
Right. Exactly. And I say that in the sense that it's important that if he acts in a way that does finally help oust Trump, that people not forget what happened in October and take care to say, "Yes, *but* you still have to account for that." Reports were saying that even his FBI staff were baffled as to why he released that letter about Hillary.

In other words, ridding Washington of Trump is not redemption for Hillary, nor should it be seen as such. The danger is that people will see him as an absolute hero when that's only a partial truth.
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More and more info gets dumped every day. Here's the latest on Flynn, much more in the link
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 49647.html
WASHINGTON
One of the Trump administration’s first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired – and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he’d been paid more than $500,000 to represent.

The decision came 10 days before Donald Trump had been sworn in as president, in a conversation with President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, who had explained the Pentagon’s plan to retake the Islamic State’s de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces whom the Pentagon considered the U.S.’s most effective military partners. Obama’s national security team had decided to ask for Trump’s sign-off, since the plan would all but certainly be executed after Trump had become president.

Flynn didn’t hesitate. According to timelines distributed by members of Congress in the weeks since, Flynn told Rice to hold off, a move that would delay the military operation for months.

If Flynn explained his answer, that’s not recorded, and it’s not known whether he consulted anyone else on the transition team before rendering his verdict. But his position was consistent with the wishes of Turkey, which had long opposed the United States partnering with the Kurdish forces – and which was his undeclared client.

Trump eventually would approve the Raqqa plan, but not until weeks after Flynn had been fired.

Now members of Congress, musing about the tangle of legal difficulties Flynn faces, cite that exchange with Rice as perhaps the most serious: acting on behalf of a foreign nation – from which he had received considerable cash – when making a military decision. Some members of Congress, in private conversations, have even used the word “treason” to describe Flynn’s intervention, though experts doubt that his actions qualify.
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And here we have the details on Trump's and Betsy DeVos' plan to fuck over the public school system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... story.html
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If any of you Trump supporters are buddies with Roger Stone would you please tell him he looks silly with his dyed hair plugs.

It works for Ric Flair because he's Ric motherfuckin Flair on him not so much.

He's either suffering from a real bad mid-life crisis or he's up for a part as a cartoon villain in some cheesy super hero movie.
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How has Trump not given Roger Stone some kind of cabinet position? I mean for God's sakes we have Omarosa all up in the fucking mix.
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TenBenny wrote:And here we have the details on Trump's and Betsy DeVos' plan to fuck over the public school system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... story.html
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Mojo wrote:
TenBenny wrote:And here we have the details on Trump's and Betsy DeVos' plan to fuck over the public school system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... story.html
Holy shit.
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Ever get the sneaking suspicion his wall just ain't gonna happen? Or anything else on his bill of goods for that matter except for possibly gutting healthcare.
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I think at some point down the line Trump will eventually claim as his big achievement that he got Mike Pence installed as president. And Trumptards will eat that shit up. But to be fair, Pence wouldn't have even registered a blip if he had been one of the GOP candidates. His biggest talent is bootlicking and he pretty much blends into the woodwork otherwise. Left to make his own decisions it might get pretty fucking scary... but I really don't think anything is as scary as Trump.

It's still completely unfathomable to me that any functioning, clinically non-retarded human beings thought electing Trump was a good idea.
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exitflagger wrote:I think at some point down the line Trump will eventually claim as his big achievement that he got Mike Pence installed as president. And Trumptards will eat that shit up. But to be fair, Pence wouldn't have even registered a blip if he had been one of the GOP candidates. His biggest talent is bootlicking and he pretty much blends into the woodwork otherwise. Left to make his own decisions it might get pretty fucking scary... but I really don't think anything is as scary as Trump.

It's still completely unfathomable to me that any functioning, clinically non-retarded human beings thought electing Trump was a good idea.
Mike Pence, the guy who makes Mitt Romney look like perfectly animate.

RE: a Pence admin, how the fuck would he get anything done? He can't even be in a room with a woman that is not his wife; that leaves a lot of people out of his loop.
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Pierce Foreskin wrote:
exitflagger wrote:I think at some point down the line Trump will eventually claim as his big achievement that he got Mike Pence installed as president. And Trumptards will eat that shit up. But to be fair, Pence wouldn't have even registered a blip if he had been one of the GOP candidates. His biggest talent is bootlicking and he pretty much blends into the woodwork otherwise. Left to make his own decisions it might get pretty fucking scary... but I really don't think anything is as scary as Trump.

It's still completely unfathomable to me that any functioning, clinically non-retarded human beings thought electing Trump was a good idea.
Mike Pence, the guy who makes Mitt Romney look like perfectly animate.

RE: a Pence admin, how the fuck would he get anything done? He can't even be in a room with a woman that is not his wife; that leaves a lot of people out of his loop.
except it's also being reported that Pence knew Flynn was under investigation prior to Trump and Pence taking office. About which Pence lied. Add to that the issues surrounding Paul Ryan could lead us to President Orin Hatch
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Judge Smails wrote:
Pierce Foreskin wrote:
exitflagger wrote:I think at some point down the line Trump will eventually claim as his big achievement that he got Mike Pence installed as president. And Trumptards will eat that shit up. But to be fair, Pence wouldn't have even registered a blip if he had been one of the GOP candidates. His biggest talent is bootlicking and he pretty much blends into the woodwork otherwise. Left to make his own decisions it might get pretty fucking scary... but I really don't think anything is as scary as Trump.

It's still completely unfathomable to me that any functioning, clinically non-retarded human beings thought electing Trump was a good idea.
Mike Pence, the guy who makes Mitt Romney look like perfectly animate.

RE: a Pence admin, how the fuck would he get anything done? He can't even be in a room with a woman that is not his wife; that leaves a lot of people out of his loop.
except it's also being reported that Pence knew Flynn was under investigation prior to Trump and Pence taking office. About which Pence lied. Add to that the issues surrounding Paul Ryan could lead us to President Orin Hatch
Yeah, Pence was the head of the transition team that in January was told by Flynn that he was under investigation by the FBI. So either he was kept out of the loop about the very team he was leading or he knew.
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Saw an interesting article on trump. One guy that claims to really know him believes he will resign when he can figure out how to do it, and still look like he won.

Would not shock me, if he thinks he may be impeached, I can see him resigning just to get out of the mess he is in, and try and put a spin on it so it looks like in his reality, he is innocent, and left, and he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Dude is in way over his head, and continues to blame everyone else for his failures. Thanks so much America for putting this asshole in the white house.
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tym wrote:Saw an interesting article on trump. One guy that claims to really know him believes he will resign when he can figure out how to do it, and still look like he won.

Would not shock me, if he thinks he may be impeached, I can see him resigning just to get out of the mess he is in, and try and put a spin on it so it looks like in his reality, he is innocent, and left, and he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Dude is in way over his head, and continues to blame everyone else for his failures. Thanks so much America for putting this asshole in the white house.
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Advisers Urge Trump to Hire an Outside Lawyer

Mr. Trump’s aides and allies were said to be especially concerned by the revelation that James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director fired by Mr. Trump, has contemporaneous, detailed memos reconstructing conversations with the president.

While the office of the president is represented by the White House counsel, presidents in the past have employed outside lawyers when their private actions were called into question.

Mr. Trump has signaled he is likely to hire a new lawyer, but has not yet made a decision, according to three people who have spoken with him. Aides to Mr. Trump did not immediately comment on his discussions.
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