You feel your way and I feel my way but obviously we are on the same general page. Yes, Pence would be a ridiculously awful president. My point is he is the emptiest suit in the room at all times. He doesn't have the bluster, stubbornness or arrogance of Trump and that's where most of our problems stem from with this administration. Are his philosophies idiotic? Of course they are. But he simply doesn't have the balls to try to strong-arm any of it through like Trump does.Luminiferous wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:49 pmSee it does bother me because it was adding Pence as VP that got the evangelicals onboard with Drumpf for president, without his faux Christian bullshit I do not believe Drumpf would have fared as well as with someone like Huckabee, Gingrich or Christie or some other GOP candidate as his vp, he would have still beat Hillary, but I'm not sure it would have been by as large of a margin..exitflagger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:52 amThis scenario never bothers me. As I've said before and should be very obvious at this point, Trump is THE absolute worst choice we ever could have made for president. I welcome any reasonable example of a competitor for that distinction but Pence isn't even in the ballpark. He essentially SLEPT through the televised shutdown debate with Schumer and Pelosi. He carries the authoritative weight of a popcorn fart. If he happens to assume auto-pilot helm for the last 6 months of this nightmare term (probably less, given the bureaucratic timeline of an impeachment), I'm pretty sure we could ride that one out.Luminiferous wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:42 am Also if Drumpf is impeached, resigns or is removed from office, this country gets Pence to finish his tenure..... Think about that.
In fact there's an upside: Trump's base doesn't even know he exists, he would have zero support and he would get trounced worse than Mondale '84 if he (improbably) ran in 2020.
Many believe after Drumpf, there will be 8 years of Pence, but I don't believe all of the Republicans who voted for Drumpf are that on board with Pence at the helm, Republican or not...
Also Pence is a far right wing over the top "Christian" who I want no where near the opportunity to issue executive decisions.. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with religions, live and let live, live your life the way you choose that makes you happy, BUT do not force your bullshit beliefs on me or my country's laws because you choose to believe some old book written by 44 different Middle Eastern men over 500 years over 2000 years ago in Mesopotamia overrides the US Constitution..
I get your point though.