Dump Shithole

[milk-milk-lemonade]

Trump says he would send US troops back to Syria should ISIS regain strength.

You know, "Mission Accomplished" an' all.

[milk-milk-lemonade]

Federal prosecutors seek interviews with Trump Organization execs


(CNN) — Federal prosecutors in New York have requested interviews in recent weeks with executives at the Trump Organization, according to people familiar with the matter, signaling a growing potential threat to President Donald Trump and those in his orbit from criminal investigations by the Manhattan US Attorney's office.

Trump and his legal team have long harbored concerns that investigations by New York federal prosecutors -- which could last throughout his presidency -- may ultimately pose more danger to him, his family and his allies than the inquiry by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to people close to Trump. Prosecutors' recent interest in executives at Trump's family company may intensify those fears.

The specific inquiry or topics of interest by prosecutors in any interviews with Trump Organization executives wasn't immediately clear. The sources were not authorized to speak on the record. A spokesperson for the company didn't respond to a request for comment.

New York federal prosecutors in recent months have undertaken at least two investigations into Trump-related entities. The first one, which CNN has reported stemmed from the office's case against Trump's former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, is examining possible campaign-finance violations by executives at the Trump Organization during the company's effort to reimburse Cohen for hush-money payments he made or orchestrated to silence women who claimed affairs with Trump. Trump has denied those affairs.

In the Cohen probe, one Trump Organization executive, chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg, was granted immunity by federal prosecutors to provide information concerning Cohen, CNN has reported.
The second investigation concerns the Trump inaugural committee and possible financial abuses related to the more than $100 million in donations raised for his inauguration, CNN has reported.

On Monday, prosecutors issued a sweeping subpoena to the committee, requesting documents related to virtually every donor or donation, attendee at a committee event, piece of paperwork related to the legal requirements attached to donations and even "the possibility of" donations made by foreign nationals.

more.. https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/05/polit ... cnn.com%2F

[AnotherPerfectB*stard]

smacks a teenie weenie bit like desperation?
As I mentioned previously, the deep state (civil service) is so scared of the Orangutan, because they can't control him, they'll do anything in their power to discredit him...

They'll find something , like they did to Al Capone, don't worry he will eventually be "impeached", but lets all agree that it is a bit of a Witch hunt'?

[Danzig in the Dark]

smacks a teenie weenie bit like desperation?
As I mentioned previously, the deep state (civil service) is so scared of the Orangutan, because they can't control him, they'll do anything in their power to discredit him...

They'll find something , like they did to Al Capone, don't worry he will eventually be "impeached", but lets all agree that it is a bit of a Witch hunt'?

An interesting analogy. Al Capone was a criminal.

Why don't you make your case for a 'witch hunt' before expecting anyone to agree.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

B*stard almost called the FBI because someone said the word "activism."

Not the brightest bulb.

[risingfarce]

Not The Onion. Send $1 and Trumpy will scroll your name during the SOTU stream Um, campaign violation?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... xVgTh8gLJY

We need to see Fuck U. Asshole scroll.

[EddieVanHeineken]

smacks a teenie weenie bit like desperation?
As I mentioned previously, the deep state (civil service) is so scared of the Orangutan, because they can't control him, they'll do anything in their power to discredit him...

They'll find something , like they did to Al Capone, don't worry he will eventually be "impeached", but lets all agree that it is a bit of a Witch hunt'?

Let's all agree that Trump has been an unethical, opportunistic, dishonest business person throughout his life. Do you really think he would run a presidential campaign and his presidency any differently?

I know for a fact from people I know who have done business with him that he is a terrible human being. He hires people to do work, then refuses to pay once the work is completed. The person I know installed equipment in several rooms in one of Trump's Atlantic City Casinos. This was a 100G job for him, an owner of a small family-owned business. After it was done, Trump refused to pay the remainder of what was owed saying things like "the check is in the mail". This went on long before his presidency aspirations. Stories like this have been told and corroborated numerous times. When you have multiple people telling you things about Trump and it's all the same thread, there's truth behind it. Not just sour grapes.

Don't you think it's concerning that he and his team have had numerous sketchy relationships with Russians and those who do business with Russians? And that his position towards Russia changed after his team met with Russian parties? Don't you think it's concerning that he is espousing policies in the Middle East and with Russia that are "exactly" what Russia's interests are? Let's be real. Several of his campaign team have been convicted and pleaded guilty to crimes. You can dispute whether those crimes have anything to do with the investigation. Keep in mind, the authorizing letter for Mueller states in essence investigation of Russia's involvement with the election and "any" other crimes arising from the investigation.

For the so-called law and order party being caught engaging in illegal activities and then having the audacity to claim they weren't 'real" crimes is quite hypocritical. This is the same party who, when a minority is pulled over by cops, rants "you need to follow what the cops tell you to do, it's the law!". It appears that their view of the law is dependent on the race and socioeconomic status of the offender in determining the validity of laws.

[TenBenny]

smacks a teenie weenie bit like desperation?
As I mentioned previously, the deep state (civil service) is so scared of the Orangutan, because they can't control him, they'll do anything in their power to discredit him...

They'll find something , like they did to Al Capone, don't worry he will eventually be "impeached", but lets all agree that it is a bit of a Witch hunt'?

Let's all agree that Trump has been an unethical, opportunistic, dishonest business person throughout his life. Do you really think he would run a presidential campaign and his presidency any differently?

I know for a fact from people I know who have done business with him that he is a terrible human being. He hires people to do work, then refuses to pay once the work is completed. The person I know installed equipment in several rooms in one of Trump's Atlantic City Casinos. This was a 100G job for him, an owner of a small family-owned business. After it was done, Trump refused to pay the remainder of what was owed saying things like "the check is in the mail". This went on long before his presidency aspirations. Stories like this have been told and corroborated numerous times. When you have multiple people telling you things about Trump and it's all the same thread, there's truth behind it. Not just sour grapes.

Don't you think it's concerning that he and his team have had numerous sketchy relationships with Russians and those who do business with Russians? And that his position towards Russia changed after his team met with Russian parties? Don't you think it's concerning that he is espousing policies in the Middle East and with Russia that are "exactly" what Russia's interests are? Let's be real. Several of his campaign team have been convicted and pleaded guilty to crimes. You can dispute whether those crimes have anything to do with the investigation. Keep in mind, the authorizing letter for Mueller states in essence investigation of Russia's involvement with the election and "any" other crimes arising from the investigation.

For the so-called law and order party being caught engaging in illegal activities and then having the audacity to claim they weren't 'real" crimes is quite hypocritical. This is the same party who, when a minority is pulled over by cops, rants "you need to follow what the cops tell you to do, it's the law!". It appears that their view of the law is dependent on the race and socioeconomic status of the offender in determining the validity of laws.

Thankfully, a lot of smart people clearly see all of this. Anyone with functioning eyes and ears and half a mind understands that the puzzle pieces are right in front of them. But there's so much more we don't know yet. It's all gonna come out eventually. The floodgates are gonna open and the whole puzzle image will become clear as day.

[TenBenny]

I didn't bother watching the SOTU address, but the soundbite footage I saw sure looked like it was a disaster. But Stacey Abrams' speech was great. She really exudes a caring and passionate persona. She's someone you want to stand behind. I'm still pissed that her gubernatorial opponent basically worked to steal his election.

Let's talk about Bernie Sanders, too. How did he go from being so liked in 2016 to being so unliked at this moment in time? Whatever he's trying to do at this point, he ain't the guy. With the crop of candidates we have coming out now... he ain't the guy.

[Turner Coates]

Let's talk about Bernie Sanders, too. How did he go from being so liked in 2016 to being so unliked at this moment in time? Whatever he's trying to do at this point, he ain't the guy. With the crop of candidates we have coming out now... he ain't the guy.

[Stoner]

Unliked? Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the United States right now, you fucking dumbasses. The fact that Donut Twitter is in a Toxic Shock Syndrome tizzy about him right now is about as meaningful and insightful as any 2016 general election poll.

I personally love seeing all of these milquetoast Dem candidates throwing their hats in the ring - it dilutes the center while the true left will stay united behind behind Bernie.

[Stoner]

Also, the content of Stacy Abrams speech was nothing special, unless platitudes get your ass moist. Nobody would even give a shit about her if she hadn't had the election so openly stolen from her.

[exitflagger]

the SOTU address

tl;dw

[TenBenny]

Unliked? Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the United States right now, you fucking dumbasses. The fact that Donut Twitter is in a Toxic Shock Syndrome tizzy about him right now is about as meaningful and insightful as any 2016 general election poll.

I personally love seeing all of these milquetoast Dem candidates throwing their hats in the ring - it dilutes the center while the true left will stay united behind behind Bernie.

You're nuts if you think Bernie's going to end up with all of the spoils from the left. And if he doesn't, we'll see who's dumb enough to enact "Bernie Bros: The Sequel."

[Stoner]

Pardon me for not trusting your genius insight into picking a candidate who is actually capable of winning a general election via electoral politics in a populist climate, TenCillizza.

Let's be real here - you are not "the left" and you have no real understanding of it if youre still using terms like "Bernie Bros" - only peri-menopausal Tupperware enthusiasts and failed comediennes say that shit. Judging from your posts here, you seemingly support centrist candidates and ideology, which is fine, but you're deadass out of your element in trying to define who will win the support of the left. I'm not sure who will win the Democratic nomination because fuckery is always afoot, but I am more hopeful this primary than last since Bernie's supporters and true leftists are solidly lined up behind him (should he run) and his policies, while the center dilutes itself in a sea of meh deciding on their perfect YASSS SLAY KWEEN avatar.

[SeminiferousButtNoid]

Lenny is deadass out of his element about everything. He regurgitates the most moronic conventional wisdom. He's about as sharp as a marble.

[Mojo]

Lenny should be commended for bringing us all together. No matter what you believe, we can all agree that Lenny is an idiot. That's nice.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

If Lenny got to choose the 2020 candidates, all of them would have a blackface past.

[risingfarce]

smacks a teenie weenie bit like desperation?
As I mentioned previously, the deep state (civil service) is so scared of the Orangutan, because they can't control him, they'll do anything in their power to discredit him...

They'll find something , like they did to Al Capone, don't worry he will eventually be "impeached", but lets all agree that it is a bit of a Witch hunt'?

Let's all agree that Trump has been an unethical, opportunistic, dishonest business person throughout his life. Do you really think he would run a presidential campaign and his presidency any differently?

I know for a fact from people I know who have done business with him that he is a terrible human being. He hires people to do work, then refuses to pay once the work is completed. The person I know installed equipment in several rooms in one of Trump's Atlantic City Casinos. This was a 100G job for him, an owner of a small family-owned business. After it was done, Trump refused to pay the remainder of what was owed saying things like "the check is in the mail". This went on long before his presidency aspirations. Stories like this have been told and corroborated numerous times. When you have multiple people telling you things about Trump and it's all the same thread, there's truth behind it. Not just sour grapes.

Don't you think it's concerning that he and his team have had numerous sketchy relationships with Russians and those who do business with Russians? And that his position towards Russia changed after his team met with Russian parties? Don't you think it's concerning that he is espousing policies in the Middle East and with Russia that are "exactly" what Russia's interests are? Let's be real. Several of his campaign team have been convicted and pleaded guilty to crimes. You can dispute whether those crimes have anything to do with the investigation. Keep in mind, the authorizing letter for Mueller states in essence investigation of Russia's involvement with the election and "any" other crimes arising from the investigation.

For the so-called law and order party being caught engaging in illegal activities and then having the audacity to claim they weren't 'real" crimes is quite hypocritical. This is the same party who, when a minority is pulled over by cops, rants "you need to follow what the cops tell you to do, it's the law!". It appears that their view of the law is dependent on the race and socioeconomic status of the offender in determining the validity of laws.

That guy should have found a way to secretly create 100G worth of damage after not being paid.

[SeminiferousButtNoid]

Unliked? Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the United States right now, you fucking dumbasses. The fact that Donut Twitter is in a Toxic Shock Syndrome tizzy about him right now is about as meaningful and insightful as any 2016 general election poll.

I personally love seeing all of these milquetoast Dem candidates throwing their hats in the ring - it dilutes the center while the true left will stay united behind behind Bernie.

You're nuts if you think Bernie's going to end up with all of the spoils from the left. And if he doesn't, we'll see who's dumb enough to enact "Bernie Bros: The Sequel."

The idiocy of Lenny regurgitating the manufactured political term of "Bernie Bros" is telling. The premise of that epithet is that the supporters of Bernie Sanders were primarily white aggressive males and this is totally false. Tulsi Gabbard, Aníbal Acevedo Vilá, Keith Ellison, Raúl Grijalva, Ro Khanna, and plenty of black, hispanic, Arab, Indian AND FEMALE journalists supported the Sanders campaign.

The Bernie Sanders campaign was sabotaged by the DNC, rich Democratic donors, and weenie liberal journalists media figures.

Lenny is bonkers if he believes Hilary Clinton or Clintonite DLC hack like Kamala Harris will beat the President.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

"Bernie Bros" didn't cost the election. Most voted for Hillary Clinton anyway. The Dems thought they had a shoe-in and they were owned by their arrogance. They needed a candidate that energized voters the same way Donald Trump did. It didn't happen.

The idea that centrist candidates is the way to go now is bizarre. Mark my words, if we have another centrist candidate like Clinton, where no one sees any difference between the obvious corruption, Donald Trump will win again.

The Dems need a bulletproof candidate. They don't have one, thus far.

[exitflagger]

Mark my words, if we have another centrist candidate like Clinton, where no one sees any difference between the obvious corruption, Donald Trump will win again.

I really don't think we're going to have anywhere near the same kind of situation in 2020 that we had in 2016. Centrist or not, you can see an overwhelming tide of negativity toward Trump that wasn't there when he didn't have a track record. We won't have the same complacency, we won't have complete ignorance and susceptibility to internet propaganda, we won't have any delusions of draining any swamps, etc. There are so many things Trump would have to overcome, not in the minds of his cult followers but in the minds of those swing voters who know what he has to offer now. It was those people who put him in office.

People are stupid, yes, but I have a hard time believing that stupidity will win out over self-preservation instinct after so many of those people have been burned by this administration. As you say, the ONLY stumbling block is finding one marquee candidate to back. I think when it comes down to it, just about anybody would suffice as long as we're not stupid enough to splinter like last time.

[Stoner]

Nah, it wasn't just the swing voters that put him into office. It also wasn't third party voters, and more than that, it simply was not Russian propaganda and fucking FB memes that put him into office (although it has effectively sown division and convinced centrists that there is such a thing as hostile Russian Bros and the "alt-left").

IT WAS PEOPLE WHO DID NOT VOTE. People who were not inspired to come out and vote or even register to vote were, are, and will always be the main reason a candidate lost.

And of course, the DNC is already fucking this up again because it is infested with millionaires who have no clue how the average working person lives their life. Of the 8 million ways they are currently insisting on once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, the most immediate being two sides of the same self-serving coin.


(1) Counting on culture wars and guilt to persuade center/center-right people to vote Democrat out of a sense of moral conflict. Bitch, STOP. Nothing in politics is truer than "Republicans fall in line while Democrats insist on falling in love". THIS IS NOT POLTERGIST, THEY ARE NOT CROSSING OVER & VOTING FOR YOUR FUCKING CANDIDATE GUYS. Stop courting them and understand that the only path to victory is to build a coalition with the left, instead of constantly telling them to shut up and sit down or start their own party, and then gushing menses for four years because they didn't come through for you in the end. That shit is just pure lunacy.

(2) Party Purity/"ONLY REEL DEMOCRATZ!!!1" asshattery. Independents currently make up the biggest voting block in the country. NEITHER party can win without them. The GOP was smart enough to realize this, they let an "outsider" in, and they won fucking election. Stop telling the left to leave the party - you are sending away one of the largest voting blocks outside of Boomers. Nominate a fucking candidate that will energize them and build a coalition! Bernie Sanders nearly won the damn nomination with 5% name recognition going in, $27 donations, and a campaign that was practically ran on a whim at the last minute. If you centrist liberals get behind him, there is no stopping him.

It's going to be someone like Sanders or Sherrod Brown who can win back Rust Belt, not the motherfucking Democratic Spice Girls

[exitflagger]

Right, complacency was the first thing I said there for a reason. And sadly, I think a big part of what happened in 2016 was due to overestimating the country's willingness to clear new hurdles. We elected a black man, certainly a woman was going to happen next. Nope. Not just a woman but a very off putting personality for the coffin nail. Those two things were a factor and it would be silly to pretend they weren't. We're not really as evolved as some of us would like to be.

The progressive vs. centrist issue will be the hardest stumbling block to get past. If that drags out, complacency will get worse.

[Stoner]

They rammed a candidate down our throat, who no matter what you think of her, had been tainted and demonized in the media for over a fucking decade, because IT'S HER TURN. What an entitled ass message to send during a populist election. The Clinton apparatus was up and running full steam ahead as planned - party members were ready to transition into cabinet positions they had been promised and prepared for - MOTHERFUCKERS WERE SELLING THEIR HOMES AND RELOCATING DURING THE PRIMARIES.

In the meantime, voters are out here working 60 hours a week just to survive, watching their families die in the god damn streets from opiates, with no hope of anything but treading water for the rest of their lives, and they trot this woman out in $3500 suits, who calls people "deplorable" and all but tells them to learn to code.

We lost because the DNC was tone-deaf and entitled. They still are. I hope that they are open to changing that, but I just don't know. The Establishment is established.

[Rageman]

If AMI is involved in everything Bezos has accused/insinuated . . . Hole - Lee - Shit

[Stoner]

Fucking Whitaker.

This motherfucker is so out of his depth.

[Mojo]

If Vincent D'Onofrio doesn't play this motherfucker in the eventual movie version of all this fuckery, they've done fucked up. I'd love to see Wilson Fisk return, anyway.

[whammybar]

From the golf courses to DC, all of his hires appear to be from a temp agency.

[Mojo]

From the golf courses to DC, all of his hires appear to be from Mexico.