Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post your thoughts and comments on terrorism, war, and political shit like that.

Moderator: Metal Sludge

Post Reply
User avatar
KneelandBobDylan
Playing Decent Clubs in a Bus
Posts: 1365
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:37 pm
Location: 3rd stone from the sun

Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by KneelandBobDylan »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts2660

Well, that was fast. Barely 10 minutes into Thursday's landmark congressional testimony — where BP CEO Tony Hayward and other leading company executives are revisiting the Gulf Coast oil spill before a subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee — the first controversial statement has entered the record.

And no, it didn't come from the gaffe-prone BP brass. Instead, GOP Rep. Joe Barton of Texas — the ranking member on the House Energy Committee — made a decisive splash in his opening remarks. A staunch conservative who has a long record of backing oil industry interests, Barton apologized to BP CEO Tony Hayward for the "shakedown" the Obama White House pulled on the company. (Barton has received more than $1.5 million in campaign donations from the oil industry, according to Open Secrets, a nonpartisan watchdog group.)
More to the article through the link.




I just wanna ask what in the fuck is this guy thinking? Cue the Republican apologists in 3...2...1...
Image
User avatar
SmokingGun
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 2781
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 8:33 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by SmokingGun »

He's going to get a lot of shit for this. I hope this is all over the media, these assholes are supposed to be working for the people, not themselves. Just see the video of the congressman assaulting the people that pay his salary, demanding to know who they are. I'm so sick of this shit.

Left wing, right wing, they're all fucking pigs with their snouts in the same troughs. Donations, campaign contributions etc should all be illegal, they do nothing to further the ideals of democracy and just entrench the already powerful.

Failing that, make these people accountable for every penny in donations, and make all their statements, views and votes, incomes etc easily accessible online, all in the one place. Click the congresscritter's ugly mug and see everything they've ever done in their political career.

Yes, I know, this will never happen, unfortunately. But it should.
Image
User avatar
WhiteHouseSubsAC
Playing a Package Tour in Arenas
Posts: 12477
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:06 am
Location: Bangin' The Pots & Pans

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by WhiteHouseSubsAC »

Fucking disgusting.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:Of course your asshole is going to be sore when you volunteer for an asspounding and not set any boundaries at all.
User avatar
KneelandBobDylan
Playing Decent Clubs in a Bus
Posts: 1365
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:37 pm
Location: 3rd stone from the sun

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by KneelandBobDylan »

God damn it, where are Shagg, or Roadhead when you need them to defend this guy?
Image
User avatar
ROADHEAD
Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
Posts: 15939
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:31 am

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by ROADHEAD »

We're waiting for the facts to come in before roasting the pinhead. Continue...
User avatar
pulsar0510
Playing Decent Clubs in a Bus
Posts: 1919
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:59 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by pulsar0510 »

ROADHEAD wrote:We're waiting for the facts to come in before roasting the pinhead. Continue...
:lol:
What fucking facts are you waiting for?
He practically blows the guy being a partisan hack and it's embarassing to watch for non-republicans.
Lies are the words that I use when you look up hopefully
Nevermind
Recording Debut Album
Posts: 780
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:43 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by Nevermind »

KneelandBobDylan wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts2660

Well, that was fast. Barely 10 minutes into Thursday's landmark congressional testimony — where BP CEO Tony Hayward and other leading company executives are revisiting the Gulf Coast oil spill before a subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee — the first controversial statement has entered the record.

And no, it didn't come from the gaffe-prone BP brass. Instead, GOP Rep. Joe Barton of Texas — the ranking member on the House Energy Committee — made a decisive splash in his opening remarks. A staunch conservative who has a long record of backing oil industry interests, Barton apologized to BP CEO Tony Hayward for the "shakedown" the Obama White House pulled on the company. (Barton has received more than $1.5 million in campaign donations from the oil industry, according to Open Secrets, a nonpartisan watchdog group.)
I guess Ugmo's not going to come along and tell you you're trolling. Oh well.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/05 ... z0rGtth1Na

Joe Biden is the one who leaned across the table during the White House meeting with BP and told them that if they didn't go along with the $20 billion fund to be administered by Obama's regime, then Obama would "do it to them." And this isn't a shakedown? What Obama did to BP was nothing less than a Chicago-style Jesse Jackson corporate shakedown.
Essentially seizing the assets from a private company, and using the power of the federal government to dole out that money as it sees fit? Obama is essentially creating his own system of laws, a system that somehow grants the president of the United States the power to do something like this, and the liberals can't understand why anybody would call it a shakedown? :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:
User avatar
tin00can
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 3458
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:31 am

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by tin00can »

I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Nevermind
Recording Debut Album
Posts: 780
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:43 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by Nevermind »

tin00can wrote:I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Nowhere in my post did I say that BP should not pay. They will, as will the taxpayer in the end.
Now, can you honestly say that you believe that Obama has the legal authority to seize the assets of a private company, and use the power of the federal government to distribute that money as it sees fit?
If so, there's no hope for you.
Luckily for Obama, BP went along with his "orders", as he had no legal leg to stand on.
User avatar
thejuggernaut
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 2131
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:49 pm
Location: Of course you can't stand gay people. Check out your own animated sig, you fucking idiot - Moggio

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by thejuggernaut »

tin00can wrote:I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Of course they should be paying.

However, don't think for one second that the "never let a good crisis go to waste" team weren't salivating over this.

It's a shakedown, plain and simple.

Obama and crew are lawyers, and they got everywhere in life and got everything in life by stealing from other people.

This whole thing was a fucking show trial.

Did you see that circus freak Henry Nostrilman ?

To Obama and crew's credit, they did a heck of a job shifting some blame away from them.

Why the hell aren't Obama and crew being grilled like BP ? Why was the administration not responding to Jindal's request for berms for almost a month ?

Why the HELL did they send the coast guard out and pull union bullshit on the barges that were cleaning it up "you don't have life preservers and permits"

They let it drag out so they could show pictures of oil covered birds when talking about their environmental scam, and they told the local do-gooders to get out of there because they want THEIR people getting paid.

Why have they refused assistance from countries overseas who have the experience and the tools to assist with this ?

What's the over/under on how long it is before the print media gets a bailout ?




Image
Nevermind
Recording Debut Album
Posts: 780
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:43 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by Nevermind »

Don't forget:
Against Gov. Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has spent the past week and half fighting to get working barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state's oil-soaked waters. By Thursday morning, against the governor's wishes, those barges still were sitting idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore.
"It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican governor told ABC News while visiting Buras, La. "Literally, [Wednesday] morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges."
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-g ... d=10946379
User avatar
tin00can
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 3458
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:31 am

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by tin00can »

thejuggernaut wrote:
tin00can wrote:I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Of course they should be paying.

However, don't think for one second that the "never let a good crisis go to waste" team weren't salivating over this.

It's a shakedown, plain and simple.

Obama and crew are lawyers, and they got everywhere in life and got everything in life by stealing from other people.

This whole thing was a fucking show trial.

Did you see that circus freak Henry Nostrilman ?

To Obama and crew's credit, they did a heck of a job shifting some blame away from them.

Why the hell aren't Obama and crew being grilled like BP ? Why was the administration not responding to Jindal's request for berms for almost a month ?

Why the HELL did they send the coast guard out and pull union bullshit on the barges that were cleaning it up "you don't have life preservers and permits"

They let it drag out so they could show pictures of oil covered birds when talking about their environmental scam, and they told the local do-gooders to get out of there because they want THEIR people getting paid.

Why have they refused assistance from countries overseas who have the experience and the tools to assist with this ?

What's the over/under on how long it is before the print media gets a bailout ?








A few things:
1. As for "Obama and his crew are lawyers" - most people in DC are lawyers, and would exploit this situation. Are you trying to say they are unique in some sense?

2. I agree with most of the rest of your points.

3. What does a potential print media bailout have to do with this?
lerxstcat
Needs to STFU!
Posts: 12558
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:40 pm

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by lerxstcat »

Emergencies require emergency measures. We don't usually tolerate military checkpoints in civilian areas, but for 6 months or more after Katrina we accepted them as a necessary security measure.

Our CEO negotiated a deal with them and moved to establish the payment fund before they could find a faw to slide out of it. You should be glad he didn't give BP a chance to slither out of it.

This may be a man-made mess, but it's bigger than any natural disaster we have faced. And the fund will be administerd by Mr. Feinberg, who paid out the 9/11 fund to everyone's approval. Not Congress, not the President, a neutral 3rd party.
Hames Jetfield
Pimping Your Demo At Shows
Posts: 383
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:55 am

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by Hames Jetfield »

thejuggernaut wrote:
tin00can wrote:I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Of course they should be paying.

However, don't think for one second that the "never let a good crisis go to waste" team weren't salivating over this.

It's a shakedown, plain and simple.

Obama and crew are lawyers, and they got everywhere in life and got everything in life by stealing from other people.

This whole thing was a fucking show trial.

Did you see that circus freak Henry Nostrilman ?

To Obama and crew's credit, they did a heck of a job shifting some blame away from them.

Why the hell aren't Obama and crew being grilled like BP ? Why was the administration not responding to Jindal's request for berms for almost a month ?

Why the HELL did they send the coast guard out and pull union bullshit on the barges that were cleaning it up "you don't have life preservers and permits"

They let it drag out so they could show pictures of oil covered birds when talking about their environmental scam, and they told the local do-gooders to get out of there because they want THEIR people getting paid.

Why have they refused assistance from countries overseas who have the experience and the tools to assist with this ?

What's the over/under on how long it is before the print media gets a bailout ?




Well if they're trying to exploit this thing for political purposes they have fucked up so far. The party of effective government has been pretty ineffective! So I'm not buying your sinister plan idea.
User avatar
SeminiferousButtNoid
Certified Asshole
Posts: 17738
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:58 pm
Location: Balls Deep In The Hoopla

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by SeminiferousButtNoid »

I don't think it was a shakedown as much as it was a mutually beneficial backroom deal. BP was under no legal obligation to hand over that money but they did so for reasons that can be speculated, and it sure as hell wasn't over guilt or the kindness of their hearts. I would like to know what was said in that room.
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
User avatar
thejuggernaut
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 2131
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:49 pm
Location: Of course you can't stand gay people. Check out your own animated sig, you fucking idiot - Moggio

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by thejuggernaut »

tin00can wrote:
thejuggernaut wrote:
tin00can wrote:I'd be more inclined to agree it was a shakedown if, you know, there was some reason they shouldn't be establishing the fund. "Shakedown" implies that it is wrong for BP to pony up the money.

Argue all you want about methods, but can you honestly say that BP shouldn't be paying for this?
Of course they should be paying.

However, don't think for one second that the "never let a good crisis go to waste" team weren't salivating over this.

It's a shakedown, plain and simple.

Obama and crew are lawyers, and they got everywhere in life and got everything in life by stealing from other people.

This whole thing was a fucking show trial.

Did you see that circus freak Henry Nostrilman ?

To Obama and crew's credit, they did a heck of a job shifting some blame away from them.

Why the hell aren't Obama and crew being grilled like BP ? Why was the administration not responding to Jindal's request for berms for almost a month ?

Why the HELL did they send the coast guard out and pull union bullshit on the barges that were cleaning it up "you don't have life preservers and permits"

They let it drag out so they could show pictures of oil covered birds when talking about their environmental scam, and they told the local do-gooders to get out of there because they want THEIR people getting paid.

Why have they refused assistance from countries overseas who have the experience and the tools to assist with this ?

What's the over/under on how long it is before the print media gets a bailout ?








A few things:
1. As for "Obama and his crew are lawyers" - most people in DC are lawyers, and would exploit this situation. Are you trying to say they are unique in some sense?

2. I agree with most of the rest of your points.

3. What does a potential print media bailout have to do with this?

I know most people in Washington are lawyers. However, Obama's side of the fence are also huge union guys.
Image
User avatar
tin00can
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 3458
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:31 am

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by tin00can »

thejuggernaut wrote: I know most people in Washington are lawyers. However, Obama's side of the fence are also huge union guys.[/color][/size]


And how does that make them different from any other president's guys?

Other than, of course, Obama's pledge to be different.
User avatar
thejuggernaut
Headlining Clubs
Posts: 2131
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:49 pm
Location: Of course you can't stand gay people. Check out your own animated sig, you fucking idiot - Moggio

Re: Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown'

Post by thejuggernaut »

tin00can wrote:
thejuggernaut wrote: I know most people in Washington are lawyers. However, Obama's side of the fence are also huge union guys.[/color][/size]


And how does that make them different from any other president's guys?

Other than, of course, Obama's pledge to be different.
You don't know how a staff of union reps, pro union people and class action lawyers differs from "regular" lawyers ?
Image
Post Reply