House votes to continue war. War board liberals silent.

[bane]

I don't know Lerx- If we'd have taken out Pablo Escobar in the beginning and taken the drug war to Columbia's turf would the cocaine epidemic have become what it is? I know it's all conjecture, but I think politicizing opium is as hypocritical as it comes and it may well bite us in the ass down the road. We're either fighting it, or we aren't. My take is to end the ridiculous drug war and let all the drug gangsters go fight over some other vice scraps, but that's an entirely different conversation.

[Crazy Levi]

Heh, the husband and I were watching one of the Bond films the other day, one with Timothy Dalton in Afghanistan. I don't remember the name. Bond hooks up with a mujahadeen "freedom fighter"...and the hub looks at me and laughs. "That was before we called them taliban"...

It was a little window in time, when the Russians were still the bad guys and the warlords and crazy religious freaks of Afghanistan were our "good guys".

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If you REALLY want a laugh, watch right-wing moron Stallone's Rambo III. It's a comical, violent movie that is practically a love letter to the taliban. It's also got the taliban guys saying stuff like "an occupying force here will never succeed". They say this shit over and over again. It's supposed to show how stupid the Russians are for being there.

The russians are such over the top evil bastards also...really a great flick. At one point Rambo kills one guy 3 times (he hangs him, shoots him, and then blows him up). And there's the part where he drives a tank into a helicopter.

This movie is a must see for all.

[lerxstcat]

I don't know Lerx- If we'd have taken out Pablo Escobar in the beginning and taken the drug war to Columbia's turf would the cocaine epidemic have become what it is? I know it's all conjecture, but I think politicizing opium is as hypocritical as it comes and it may well bite us in the ass down the road. We're either fighting it, or we aren't. My take is to end the ridiculous drug war and let all the drug gangsters go fight over some other vice scraps, but that's an entirely different conversation.

Well, Escobar was the big guy but his place was taken immediately. If we had gone into Colombia to try and eradicate cocaine I think it would've made Vietnam look like a rousing victory for us. I think we should decriminalize these substances and approach our drug problems from a treatmnent perspective instead of criminally. Of course other crimes done under the influence, including driving under the influence, should be dealt with harshly.

Fuck legislating morality and trying to enforce it globally. Let the opium lords of Afghanistan and Pakistan grow their shit and sell it without interference, and also make deals with them to get at the mineral resources that are inaccessible now because we're at war with the same warlords.

No one conquers Afghanistan. Russia knows it now, Great Britain found out 150 years ago, Genghis Khan found out centuries ago. You can take it but you can't keep it. But maybe you can make a deal with the locals.