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Tea party neophytes outshine the Dems' old pros
Michael Barone / San Francisco Examiner / October 19, 2010
One of the constant refrains of the so-called mainstream media is that tea party candidates are blithering incompetents and weird wackos. They may do well this year, the refrain goes, but when voters come to their senses the Republican party will pay a big price for embracing them.
This meme is part of a pattern. As longtime Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz, now writing for The Daily Beast, puts it, "News organizations were late to the tea party phenomenon and are still grappling to explain it."
As on so many points, I think the mainstream media has gotten it nearly upside down. What strikes me about so-called tea party candidates--those with little or no political experience who have won Republican nominations by opposing the Obama Democrats' vast expansion of government--is not that some of them are bumblers but that so many of them seem to have terrific political instincts.
Consider the performance of Nevada Republican Sherron Angle in her single public debate with Senate Majority leader Harry Reid. Longtime Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston, no admirer of Angle, said that Angle clearly won. Reid, wrote Ralston, "looked as if he could barely stay on a linear argument, abruptly switching gears and failing to effectively parry or thrust."
If Sherron Angle could do better than Harry Reid, first elected to statewide office 40 years ago and a veteran of 28 years in Congress, the Senate Democratic leader for six years, maybe she isn't such a dog after all.
Similarly, Delaware Republican Christine O'Donnell held her own against Democrat Chris Coons in their debate. O'Donnell has some significant political baggage and is trailing in what has been a heavily Democratic state since the mid-1990s. But she didn't embarrass her party in debate.
Mainstream media has paid less attention to Wisconsin Republican Ron Johnson, a plastics manufacturer from Oshkosh, who has surged to a nearly double-digit lead over three-term incumbent Russ Feingold in a state that voted 56 to 42 percent for Barack Obama.
Johnson has no political experience, but he seems to me to have perfect political pitch, articulating anti-government-spending themes with precision and generally avoiding statements that would put him on the defensive.
That wasn't initially true of Rand Paul, the libertarian-minded Senate nominee in Kentucky, who after winning the May primary dismayed Republican insiders by questioning the public accommodations provisions of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
He has avoided such gaffes for months and is now capitalizing on his Democrat opponent Jack Conway's ad questioning his religious beliefs. Conway has much more political experience but looks more amateurish at this point.
It's hard to keep up with all the seriously contested House races around the country; more seem to show up on the radar screen every week. But it's interesting to me that some of the candidates who have risen from entirely apolitical backgrounds to challenge Democrats everyone considered safe even a few months ago seem to have good political instincts.
Take Ilario Pantano in North Carolina 7, a district Democrats have held since Reconstruction.
Pantano is the son of Italian immigrants, who left Goldman Sachs to reenlist in the Marines after 9/11 and was entirely vindicated of charges brought against him by a disgruntled subordinate.
Pantano has taken on 14-year incumbent Mike McIntyre, a pleasant man with deep local roots, and has wisely not attacked him personally. Instead he's targeted the policies of the Obama Democrats.
Or consider Chip Cravaack, former Navy and Northwest Airlines pilot who says he's spent several years as a stay-at-home dad. He's taken on 36-year veteran Jim Oberstar, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, in Minnesota 8, a district Democrats have held since 1946. Cravaack has shrewdly targeted some local issues and may capitalize on the fact that Oberstar received only one contribution from a district resident in the last quarter.
Polling indicates that these two Republicans, tea party types if not tea party products, are making serious challenges in districts where Democrats received 69 and 68 percent of the vote in 2008. Not all such challenges are successful. But some are, and they can change the political balance in Congress.
The tea party movement today, like the peace movement 40 years ago, has brought many new people into politics--and many with sharper political instincts than their detractors in the press have been able to understand.
Michael Barone / San Francisco Examiner / October 19, 2010
One of the constant refrains of the so-called mainstream media is that tea party candidates are blithering incompetents and weird wackos. They may do well this year, the refrain goes, but when voters come to their senses the Republican party will pay a big price for embracing them.
This meme is part of a pattern. As longtime Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz, now writing for The Daily Beast, puts it, "News organizations were late to the tea party phenomenon and are still grappling to explain it."
As on so many points, I think the mainstream media has gotten it nearly upside down. What strikes me about so-called tea party candidates--those with little or no political experience who have won Republican nominations by opposing the Obama Democrats' vast expansion of government--is not that some of them are bumblers but that so many of them seem to have terrific political instincts.
Consider the performance of Nevada Republican Sherron Angle in her single public debate with Senate Majority leader Harry Reid. Longtime Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston, no admirer of Angle, said that Angle clearly won. Reid, wrote Ralston, "looked as if he could barely stay on a linear argument, abruptly switching gears and failing to effectively parry or thrust."
If Sherron Angle could do better than Harry Reid, first elected to statewide office 40 years ago and a veteran of 28 years in Congress, the Senate Democratic leader for six years, maybe she isn't such a dog after all.
Similarly, Delaware Republican Christine O'Donnell held her own against Democrat Chris Coons in their debate. O'Donnell has some significant political baggage and is trailing in what has been a heavily Democratic state since the mid-1990s. But she didn't embarrass her party in debate.
Mainstream media has paid less attention to Wisconsin Republican Ron Johnson, a plastics manufacturer from Oshkosh, who has surged to a nearly double-digit lead over three-term incumbent Russ Feingold in a state that voted 56 to 42 percent for Barack Obama.
Johnson has no political experience, but he seems to me to have perfect political pitch, articulating anti-government-spending themes with precision and generally avoiding statements that would put him on the defensive.
That wasn't initially true of Rand Paul, the libertarian-minded Senate nominee in Kentucky, who after winning the May primary dismayed Republican insiders by questioning the public accommodations provisions of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
He has avoided such gaffes for months and is now capitalizing on his Democrat opponent Jack Conway's ad questioning his religious beliefs. Conway has much more political experience but looks more amateurish at this point.
It's hard to keep up with all the seriously contested House races around the country; more seem to show up on the radar screen every week. But it's interesting to me that some of the candidates who have risen from entirely apolitical backgrounds to challenge Democrats everyone considered safe even a few months ago seem to have good political instincts.
Take Ilario Pantano in North Carolina 7, a district Democrats have held since Reconstruction.
Pantano is the son of Italian immigrants, who left Goldman Sachs to reenlist in the Marines after 9/11 and was entirely vindicated of charges brought against him by a disgruntled subordinate.
Pantano has taken on 14-year incumbent Mike McIntyre, a pleasant man with deep local roots, and has wisely not attacked him personally. Instead he's targeted the policies of the Obama Democrats.
Or consider Chip Cravaack, former Navy and Northwest Airlines pilot who says he's spent several years as a stay-at-home dad. He's taken on 36-year veteran Jim Oberstar, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, in Minnesota 8, a district Democrats have held since 1946. Cravaack has shrewdly targeted some local issues and may capitalize on the fact that Oberstar received only one contribution from a district resident in the last quarter.
Polling indicates that these two Republicans, tea party types if not tea party products, are making serious challenges in districts where Democrats received 69 and 68 percent of the vote in 2008. Not all such challenges are successful. But some are, and they can change the political balance in Congress.
The tea party movement today, like the peace movement 40 years ago, has brought many new people into politics--and many with sharper political instincts than their detractors in the press have been able to understand.
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You know, if you spent less time cutting, pasting and foaming at the mouth and more time looking for a real job, you just might find a way to move out of your ghetto-ass apartment and into a real house. Sort of like a real husband and father.
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It really is bordering on spamming. All this guy does is post articles and doesn't argue any kind of position.
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Arguing requires intelligence and (hopefully) critical thinking skills.
Don't hold your breath with this one.
Don't hold your breath with this one.
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Apparently you missed this (from the Stupid Republicans B*itches thread)...SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:IAll this guy does is post articles and doesn't argue any kind of position.
Cliffenstein wrote:No it doesn't and just because you say it does doesn't make it so.Crazy Levi wrote:She clearly has no idea that the Constitution establishes separation of church and state, which it does.
Interestingly enough, in the same debate, Coons couldn't name the five freedoms as listed in the first amendment.
He misstated freedom of religion as separation of church and state and could not list the freedoms of speech, the press, to assemble or to petition.
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Cliffenstein wrote:Apparently you missed this (from the Stupid Republicans B*itches thread)...SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:IAll this guy does is post articles and doesn't argue any kind of position.
Cliffenstein wrote:No it doesn't and just because you say it does doesn't make it so.Crazy Levi wrote:She clearly has no idea that the Constitution establishes separation of church and state, which it does.
Interestingly enough, in the same debate, Coons couldn't name the five rights endowed by our Creator as listed in the first amendment.
He misstated freedom of religion as separation of church and state and could not list the freedoms of speech, the press, to assemble or to petition.
No, I didn't miss it. One reply doesn't change the fact that you start way too many article threads, you don't post in those threads , and then you begin another. Your shtick is not new and others that have done it over the years have been removed. I suggest if you want to keep posting, you concentrate on the reply button a little more often.
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
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You aren't the first one to point this out. But thanks for joining the cause.SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:It really is bordering on spamming. All this guy does is post articles and doesn't argue any kind of position.
Shitstein is useless.
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i always figured he was an AA, nym....
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REPLY BUTTON PUSHED...I feel so much better now!SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:No, I didn't miss it. One reply doesn't change the fact that you start way too many article threads, you don't post in those threads , and then you begin another. Your shtick is not new and others that have done it over the years have been removed. I suggest if you want to keep posting, you concentrate on the reply button a little more often.
For the record...
I've started 29 threads here on the War Board.
Of those 29 threads, I've replied in 13.
Of those 29 threads, there were no replies by anyone in 3.
Of the 26 threads that I started here on the War Board that actually had replies, I did not have anything to add to the discussion, other than the initial post, in 13.
So...I've replied in 50% of the threads I've started that actually had replies.
I've also replied in 3 threads here on the War Board started by others.
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