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Ralph Nader: Obama’s a ‘war criminal’

It’s no surprise that Ralph Nader isn’t a fan of former President George W. Bush. After all, the longtime activist ran against him in both 2000 and 2004. But Nader’s even less a fan of President Barack Obama, if only because he thinks Obama was capable of so much more.

On issues related to the military and foreign policy, Obama’s worse than Bush, “in the sense that he’s more aggressive, more illegal worldwide,” Nader told POLITICO, going so far as to call

“He’s gone beyond George W. Bush in drones, for example. He thinks the world is his plate, that national sovereignties mean nothing, drones can go anywhere. They can kill anybody that he suspects and every Tuesday he makes the call on who lives and who dies, supposed suspects in places like Yemen and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and that is a war crime and he ought to be held to account.”

Nader called Obama “below average because he raised expectation levels. What expectation level did George W. Bush raise?… He’s below average because he’s above average in his intellect and his knowledge of legality, which is violating with abandon.”

“I don’t know whether George W. Bush ever read the Constitution,” said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.”

Nader gave Obama this much: He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”

When asked to highlight some positives about Obama’s presidency, Nader said, “I like the way he’s emphasized renewable energy, even though he still supports nuclear and fossil fuels, as if they’re all the same, all of the above. But he does speak more about renewables than any president perhaps since Jimmy Carter.” (Nader will be speaking at the Green Festival in Washington, D.C., later this month.)

And: “He wanted to have a public works program, he really did want to have a jobs program and the Republicans crushed it and that would have created a lot of jobs that couldn’t be exported to China.”

Nader doesn’t let Republicans off easy, either, calling them “the worst Republican Party in history.”

“We’re dealing with a real sick, decaying Democratic Party that can’t defend the country against the cruelest, most ignorant, most anti-worker, most war-mongering, most Wall Street–indentured Republican Party in its history, since the 1850s.”

As for Romney, Nader said “he’s not the old Romney, governor of Massachusetts. He’s had a character and personality makeover. He’s just bought into the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, represented by Paul Ryan, and I don’t think he’s going to be able to shake that. He’s basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”

For the first time in a long time, Nader is not running for president this year. From the way he puts it, he may be through with such campaigns.

“I’ve run several times and we’ve documented the two-party tyranny, which means they’re very adept at excluding, with a whole variety of ways, third parties.”

It’s not, however, because he’s been billed by some as a political spoiler.

“That’s a politically bigoted words, as if we’re second-class citizens,” said Nader. “Since we’re all trying to get votes from one another, either we’re all spoilers of one another or none of us are spoilers."





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Ralph Nader is 100% correct.
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Sad but true.
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Ralph is, as he is with most things, correct.
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Nader is the only person Ive ever voted for in presidential elections and I will vote for him every time he runs.


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Nader wrote:“We’re dealing with a real sick, decaying Democratic Party that can’t defend the country against the cruelest, most ignorant, most anti-worker, most war-mongering, most Wall Street–indentured Republican Party in its history, since the 1850s.”
From Nader's point of view, the Democratic party is becoming more corporate/right wing while Romney is running on the platform that the choice is between socialism and capitalism. That's why Romney's crashing in the polls. Everyone with a brain can see that Obama is to the right of how Reagan governed (not spoke) on most issues. Obama is blowing shit up in the Middle East every day and refusing to prosecute the Wall Street crooks while Romney is calling him an apologist and a socialist. It's a joke campaign detached from reality.

Bad news already rolling in for Mittens today

Wednesday, September 26
General Election: Romney vs. Obama Bloomberg Obama 49, Romney 43 Obama +6
Florida: Romney vs. Obama Florida Times-Union/InAdv Obama 49, Romney 46 Obama +3

Obama: Favorable/Unfavorable Bloomberg Favorable 52, Unfavorable 44 Favorable +8
Romney: Favorable/Unfavorable Bloomberg Favorable 43, Unfavorable 50 Unfavorable +7

Intrade odds:
Obama: 73.5%
Romney: 26.5%
Nader wrote:“I don’t know whether George W. Bush ever read the Constitution,” said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.”
Obama said the health care law complied with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the Arizona immigration law violated with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the NDAA complied with the Constitution. A trial court said it violated the 1st Amendment and an appellate court said it did not. Still waiting for that to play out but doubt Supreme Court will even look at it since it clearly does not violate the Constitution. Looks like Obama understands the Constitution.
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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:
Nader wrote:“I don’t know whether George W. Bush ever read the Constitution,” said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.”
Obama said the health care law complied with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the Arizona immigration law violated with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the NDAA complied with the Constitution. A trial court said it violated the 1st Amendment and an appellate court said it did not. Still waiting for that to play out but doubt Supreme Court will even look at it since it clearly does not violate the Constitution. Looks like Obama understands the Constitution.
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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:
Nader wrote:“I don’t know whether George W. Bush ever read the Constitution,” said Nader. “This man taught the Constitution, and this is what we got.”
Obama said the health care law complied with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the Arizona immigration law violated with the Constitution. Supreme Court said he was right. Obama said the NDAA complied with the Constitution. A trial court said it violated the 1st Amendment and an appellate court said it did not. Still waiting for that to play out but doubt Supreme Court will even look at it since it clearly does not violate the Constitution. Looks like Obama understands the Constitution.
Well that's just appeal to authority fallacy. Under your same logic, you could say George W Bush understands the constitution because SCOTUS sided with him on Bush v. Gore, Gonzales v. Raich, and Ashcroft v. Iqbal, all of which are argued to be blatantly unconstitutional. I don't know of any legal philosophy that is based on the dispositive view that whatever the Supreme Court says is objectively constitutional or not. If that were the case, then stare decisis would be the only criteria for deciding a case, if there was a precedent, and nothing would ever be reversed.
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2012 Democrats = Nazi collaborators.
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Constantine wrote:2012 Democrats = Nazi collaborators.
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A Frenchman telling us that.
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