Rand Paul - The new Palin?

[Crazy Levi]

Wow! I gotta admit I'd never heard of this guy untill a week ago, but after 10 minutes of research I'm fuckin' LOVIN' it!

He's obviously the stupidest American politician since Palin - the knee slapper here, is that he might actually WIN!

So in the last 10 minutes, I've discovered that-

1) He disagrees with the 1964 Civil Rights act and would like to repeal the parts about "whites only" businesses. He also refuses to say that he would have voted for the Act if he had been around at the time.

2) He's mad at Obama for picking on those opprossed victims at BP Oil, and calls him "unAmerican" for blaming those poor souls.

3) He thinks that the tragic mine explosion in West Va was a "shit happens" event, and that more regulations are a waste of time. Doesn't seem to care that the company had a history of safety issues and ignoring orders to fix shit.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic," he told ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen."

What a great guy. He's fucking scary Martin Sheen as President in Dead Zone fucking crazy.

Perfect rep for the Tea Party. Palin isn't crazy, just stupid. But boy is she gonna be pissed at the amount of press this guy is getting. Think she'll up the crazy/racist ante so she can keep that Tea Party money coming in?

I do.

[MasterOfMeatPuppets]

2) He's mad at Obama for picking on those opprossed victims at BP Oil, and calls him "unAmerican" for blaming those poor souls.

It's unAmerican to pick on British Petroleum? Next thing you know, we won't be able to call the French "snail eating surrender monkeys".

[Crazy Levi]

2) He's mad at Obama for picking on those opprossed victims at BP Oil, and calls him "unAmerican" for blaming those poor souls.

It's unAmerican to pick on British Petroleum? Next thing you know, we won't be able to call the French "snail eating surrender monkeys".

As a good liberitarian, he's upset at any unfair assaults on big business. He doesn't seem to care where the business is located in, be it the deep south, West Va, or England. Just keep your damn guvment hands off 'em!

I think it's just the tip of the iceberg with this joker, we could be in for years of entertainment out of this guy.

[Hames Jetfield]

That’s the problem with Libertarianism, they think that the "free market" will take care of everything. One business discriminates, well then go to the one that doesn't, and they should, in theory, get more business than the ones that discriminate. From my understanding it's all about the market and less government. However, I don’t think he’s an idiot like Palin; he is principled and actually understands, probably to his determent, Libertarian philosophy and follows it.

[Crazy Levi]

That’s the problem with Libertarianism, they think that the "free market" will take care of everything. One business discriminates, well then go to the one that doesn't, and they should, in theory, get more business than the ones that discriminate. From my understanding it's all about the market and less government. However, I don’t think he’s an idiot like Palin; he is principled and actually understands, probably to his determent, Libertarian philosophy and follows it.

After doing another 10 mins research on him, I actually agree with you - the only thing he's done that's "idiotic" is to tell the truth about his views when he should probably not go around saying things like it's ok to not serve blacks at your restaurant.

But just like any other politician, he's now worming around, changing his statements, etc. He's learning how to be just like any other politician, so his career as a "maverick tea partier" lasted all of 2 days. Good for him, he'll do fine.

[SeminiferousButtNoid]

But just like any other politician, he's now worming around, changing his statements,

Somewhat similar to you starting a thread about him, calling him idiotic and crazy, without knowing anything about his positions or paleo-libertarianism or Austrian school economics or the basis of Enlightenment ideals that this country fought a revolution for, and then four posts later changing your tune about him after you did 10 minutes of "research" and retracting your statements about him being idiotic and crazy. More or less?

[vanitybinge]

Which is scarier, the man himself if his views are that extreme, or the fact that thousands of people support him on the ballot because they also like the way he thinks?

[Crazy Levi]

Which is scarier, the man himself if his views are that extreme, or the fact that thousands of people support him on the ballot because they also like the way he thinks?

The fact that he has support is of course the scariest thing - the world is full of racist assholes, not news there.

Stupid cunt Palin has now chimed in, after RNC head Mike Steele came down on Paul for his recent statements....

Appearing on the Republicans' official media arm, Fox News, Palin said-

"So you know, one thing that we can learn in this lesson that I have learned and Rand Paul is learning now is don't assume that you can engage in a hypothetical discussion about constitutional impacts with a reporter or a media personality who has an agenda, who may be prejudiced before they even get into the interview in regards to what your answer may be — and then the opportunity that they seize to get you.

You know, they're looking for that "gotcha" moment. And that's what it evidently appears to be that they did with Rand Paul."

So it's the media's fault that Paul said it's ok for shop owners to put up "Whites Only" signs as if it's 1955 in Alabama. What else would you expect from Palin?

[Hames Jetfield]

Which is scarier, the man himself if his views are that extreme, or the fact that thousands of people support him on the ballot because they also like the way he thinks?

The fact that he has support is of course the scariest thing - the world is full of racist assholes, not news there.

Stupid cunt Palin has now chimed in, after RNC head Mike Steele came down on Paul for his recent statements....

Appearing on the Republicans' official media arm, Fox News, Palin said-

"So you know, one thing that we can learn in this lesson that I have learned and Rand Paul is learning now is don't assume that you can engage in a hypothetical discussion about constitutional impacts with a reporter or a media personality who has an agenda, who may be prejudiced before they even get into the interview in regards to what your answer may be — and then the opportunity that they seize to get you.

You know, they're looking for that "gotcha" moment. And that's what it evidently appears to be that they did with Rand Paul."

So it's the media's fault that Paul said it's ok for shop owners to put up "Whites Only" signs as if it's 1955 in Alabama. What else would you expect from Palin?

I think you're painting Paul with too broad of a brush. He is a Libertarian and they have always raised questions regarding the government’s right to intervene in the affairs of "private" business and institutions. Libertarianism raises many valid points even though I disagree with many of them. I think the guy's doing a disservice to Libertarianism by running as a Republican, which he is doing because he needs a big political machine behind him.

He's not saying it's ok for a private business to discriminate, but that it's their right. There is a difference, and it's one that I don't agree with but do understand. I take him at his word and believe that he isn't racist, but, the problem is that there are probably lots of backwoods Kentuckians willing to vote for him just for the reason that he said he had a problem with the Civil Rights Act without caring about the political philosophy that led him to come to that conclusion and speak up. If I were a Kentuckian, my bigger concern would be whether or not he would compromise, in the end, when it comes to something as big as Civil Rights. Of course he says he would now but I don't completely buy it.

[JakeYonkel]

I was around some self-proclaimed hardcore libertarians yesterday and I've got to say they're just as fucking crazy and stupid as the extra right- and left-wingers.

I was listening to one of them claim they would never allow their children to be vaccinated with ANY vaccinations, and if it was mandatory for them to have to go to school, they'd sooner homeschool the kid and then have him do an online university.

Insanity.

[Hames Jetfield]

I was around some self-proclaimed hardcore libertarians yesterday and I've got to say they're just as fucking crazy and stupid as the extra right- and left-wingers.

I was listening to one of them claim they would never allow their children to be vaccinated with ANY vaccinations, and if it was mandatory for them to have to go to school, they'd sooner homeschool the kid and then have him do an online university.

Insanity.

Anyone can proclaim themselves to be anything; still it doesn't make it so.

[SeminiferousButtNoid]

I was around some self-proclaimed hardcore libertarians yesterday and I've got to say they're just as fucking crazy and stupid as the extra right- and left-wingers.

I was listening to one of them claim they would never allow their children to be vaccinated with ANY vaccinations, and if it was mandatory for them to have to go to school, they'd sooner homeschool the kid and then have him do an online university.

Insanity.

Why are they "crazy" for not wanting the government interfering with the the way their children are taught or how they treat their children? I don't want my children going to public school either and I'm grateful that there are private and parochial schools around where they can still receive a classical education in a stabilized environment. If those weren't available, I would have them homeschooled too.

As far as vaccinations go, what if, in 5 years Roche came out with a vaccine for the common cold virus and claimed that it had been thoroughly tested. The FDA approves it and it is put out on the market. A year later, your state makes the vaccination mandatory for all children in the state. Another 5 years later a link is found between this new vaccine and mutation of the lymphatic system that causes cancer. The response from team that developed it, the company that sold it and the state that legislated it is, "Oops! We fucked up!"

That's why parents must be the ultimate decision makers concerning their children, not the state.

[JakeYonkel]

My argument is not pro or anti public schooling, I didn't mean it to come off that way. I just found it absurd to think someone would hold their child out of school just because they need to be vaccinated against measles/mumps/whatever in order to go.

I choose not to get a flu shot every year, not because I think there's some conspiracy and the government is trying to pump me full of drugs... I just don't like subjecting myself to any more needles than I have to nor do I want the trouble of getting one. My kid is two and has gotten every shot as indicated he should at every 'milestone' age without question. It's the responsible thing to do as a parent.

We heard the claims that there were links between vaccinations and autism but I think it's BS, quite frankly.

If a new vaccine came out I would surely hold out against it - my wife and I didn't get swine flu vaccines but we did get one for the kid since he was so young.

I don't believe there will be some government-mandated shots for everybody but if there is believe me I'll be kicking and screaming with the ACLU on that one. As it is if you're going to throwing kids into public schools it's the responsible thing to do to vaccinate.