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House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reduction

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:39 am
by brotherplanet
Fucking morons! With the fucking Bush/Obama economy we've got they decide to cut food stamps??? They couldn't wait until the unemployment rate drops below 5%?





House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reduction




The U.S. House voted to cut food stamps, federal workers’ benefits and other domestic programs to avoid scheduled reductions in defense spending.

The chamber today passed, 218-199, a plan to cut about $310 billion in spending to replace automatic defense-spending reductions that lawmakers in both parties agree shouldn’t be allowed to take effect in January.

“This plan ensures that we maintain our fiscal discipline and commitment to reducing out-of-control government spending, while making sure our top priority is national security,” said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, a Virginia Republican.

Democrats lined up against the measure, H.R. 5652, saying it would put too much of the deficit burden on the needy. The proposal goes to the Democratic-controlled Senate, where it is doomed to failure.

The Republican plan is one that “asks nothing of Mr. Exxon, that asks nothing more of hedge fund managers, but asks those who are most vulnerable in our society to share more pain,” said Representative Lloyd Doggett, a Texas Democrat.


No Democrats supported the plan; 16 Republicans opposed it.

The automatic spending reductions set to begin in January are triggered by the so-called supercommittee’s failure last year to come up with a plan to reduce the $1.2 trillion federal budget deficit. About $55 billion would be subtracted next year from the Pentagon budget, with an equal amount coming from non- defense programs.
Panetta Response

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters today he opposes the House measure even though it sought to protect defense spending, because “it’s not balanced, it’s not fair and ultimately the Senate isn’t going to accept it either.”

The plan faces a veto threat from President Barack Obama. Still, it offers a preview of what Republicans may seek after the November election, when lawmakers will consider in earnest whether to replace the automatic cuts with a new plan.

It also represents a political risk for Republicans. While they say voters will reward them for making tough budget choices, their plan is opposed by many groups. Among them are AARP, the advocacy group for older Americans; the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which opposes reductions in aid to the poor; the National Council of La Raza, which criticized the plan’s effect on illegal immigrants; and the National Treasury Employees Union, representing federal workers.
Minimum Tax

House Democrats offered an alternative that relies mostly on tax increases, including imposing a minimum tax on millionaires. The proposal would curb business-related tax breaks, cut farm subsidies and raise premiums for the government’s flood-insurance program. House Republicans refused to allow a vote on the Democratic plan.

“Apparently our Republican colleagues are kind of worried about what we were going to propose,” said Representative Chris Van Hollen, the top Democrat on the House Budget Committee. “Let’s ask people who are making over $1 million a year to get rid of some of their tax breaks, to help pay for our common defense so we don’t have to have a budget that whacks everyone else.”

The Republicans’ plan would reduce spending by about $310 billion over a decade, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. It would cut off food stamps to 1.8 million Americans, according to CBO, while reducing aid to millions more. About 280,000 children who receive food stamps would no longer be automatically eligible for free school lunches, CBO said.
Medicaid Enrollment

The measure would make it easier for state governments to cut enrollment in Medicaid, the health care program for the poor, and eliminate Social Services Block Grants, which fund programs such as “Meals on Wheels.”

It would make it tougher for illegal immigrants to claim a child tax credit and would require federal workers to pay more for their pensions, which CBO has said are more generous than private-sector retirement benefits.

Other provisions would reduce funding for the administration’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, tighten medical malpractice laws and reduce Medicaid payments to Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories. It would allow some elements of the scheduled cuts to take effect, including a 2 percent reduction in Medicare spending.

Republicans say difficult choices are necessary and that many of the cuts are designed to clamp down on waste. They say some state governments have stretched the rules and allowed too many people to collect food stamps.
State Governments

State governments “wanted to try to make as many federal dollars as available to as many people as possible,” said Agriculture Committee Chairman Frank Lucas, an Oklahoma Republican.

Democrats “would have you believe that we’re decimating the nutritional safety net and that hungry children and seniors will be left to fend for themselves,” he said. That’s a “scare tactic,” said Lucas, who said the changes would close “program loopholes.”

The cuts drew a sharp critique from Representative Joe Baca, a California Democrat who said he once relied on food stamps.

“This package literally takes food off the table for millions of disadvantaged Americans,” Baca said. “Unless you’ve been in that situation, you don’t know what it’s like.”



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Re: House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reductio

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:50 am
by MotleyMaiden
I fucking HATE Eric Cantor. That evil, prick is my congressman. I can NOT wait to vote that fucker out of office next time he is up for reelection. I will even campaign against him.

Re: House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reductio

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:36 am
by Danzig in the Dark
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/2 ... ly%20Brief
Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.

In his characteristically colorful style, Simpson told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that Republicans' rigid opposition to new tax revenues has hampered productivity and diminished the chances of reaching an agreement with Democrats on debt reduction.

"You can’t cut spending your way out of this hole," Simpson, who was appointed as co-chair of President Obama's Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform in 2010, said. "You can’t grow your way out of this hole, and you can’t tax your way out of this hole. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, we tell these people. This is madness."

Simpson continued: "If you want to be a purist, go somewhere on a mountaintop and praise the east or something. But if you want to be in politics, you learn to compromise. And you learn to compromise on the issue without compromising yourself. Show me a guy who won’t compromise and I’ll show you a guy with rock for brains."

The former senator, along with debt commission co-chair Erskine Bowles, developed a plan in 2010 for bringing down the top tax rate and lowering the deficit by repealing a number of tax cuts and credits. The initial plan, commonly known as Simpson-Bowles, was mostly ignored by lawmakers. A bipartisan budget modeled after their report was rejected by the House earlier this year.

During the interview Sunday, he expressed frustration with his party's focus on social issues, as well as the ability of outspoken figures like Americans for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist to drive the conversation.

"I guess I'm known as a RINO now, which means a Republican in name only, because, I guess, of social views, perhaps, or common sense would be another one, which seems to escape members of our party," Simpson said. "For heaven’s sake, you have Grover Norquist wandering the earth in his white robes saying that if you raise taxes one penny, he’ll defeat you. He can’t murder you. He can’t burn your house. The only thing he can do to you, as an elected official, is defeat you for reelection. And if that means more to you than your country when we need patriots to come out in a situation when we’re in extremity, you shouldn’t even be in Congress."
They did have a plan. Stupid fuckers.

There's hope for you yet, brotherplanet. While I'm not a full blown Democrat, I no longer consider 'liberal' to be a dirty word, nor should you.

This is one election to which I don't look forward. It's too much like a literal choice between the lesser of two evils.

Re: House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reductio

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:37 pm
by brotherplanet
You wouldn't have written that if you believed one very specific thing I've written in the past.

I go after Obama more because he's the current President.

Besides, the really fun shit about Romney will come along as this campaign goes into full swing.
While I'm not a full blown Democrat, I no longer consider 'liberal' to be a dirty word, nor should you

I don't think liberal is a dirty word, but I'm not a liberal. I'm a moderate. On a social level I'm a liberal, but on an economic and Constitutional level I lean more conservative.

I also think the terms have gotten a bit screwy over the last decade or so as well. Being a conservative didn't used to mean you were heartless and being a liberal didn't used to mean you were living in an LSD induced utopia.

Conservatives use to take their time with change. Put their feet in the water first to see if it was safe and then slowly, conservatively move forward.

Liberals were progressives who sought change for the better, who sought advancements.



Now they're both only like that on the surface.

Re: House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reductio

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:04 pm
by Skate4RnR
Cool, we got that out of the way, now let's get started on those goddamn over payed teachers!