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SmokeyRamone wrote:I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.

I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class.

You will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.

SmokeyRamone wrote: so I guess now we're going to be paying taxes straight to private corporations now.

SmokeyRamone wrote:ah, even better, now the government is using the IRS as a form of punishment. "Do what we tell you to do with your post tax income or we're going to punish you with more taxes"

Christ, what other private companies is he going to force us to do business with if he gets reelected?

David_Lee_Halen wrote:The supreme court did the right thing.

Liquid Boom Boom wrote: Please expand on that statement...I would love to know examples of what you mean. Thanks,

Rorysfan wrote:The former Mrs. Sixx added her "wisdom" via Twitter on the subject.


Donna D'Errico ‏@DonnaDErrico
It passed because it's a tax..so from now on they can make us buy whatever they want as long as it's a tax. Wake me when this is over.

GeddyCriss3 wrote:I was at Subway today for lunch and two ladies in front of me were talking about how great it is that everyone now is going to have free health care...LMFAO.

GeddyCriss3 wrote:I was at Subway today for lunch and two ladies in front of me were talking about how great it is that everyone now is going to have free health care...LMFAO.

GeddyCriss3 wrote:I was at Subway today for lunch and two ladies in front of me were talking about how great it is that everyone now is going to have free health care...LMFAO.

Linda Bergthold of the Huffington Post wrote: The Supreme Court UPHOLDS Health Reform -- What Does It Mean for You?
In a surprise decision, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act passed in 2010. You will hear a lot of commentary from legal and policy experts in the next few weeks about this decision, but this post is about what the Court action means for YOU personally.

The outcry from the right will be deafening, and there will be attempts by the House Republicans between now and November to take out sections of the law, although the Senate Democratic majority is not likely to approve any of those actions. Obviously, if the Republicans win the presidency and the Senate in November, the ACA may not survive to its full 2014 implementation date. Now is the time to acquaint yourself with what the health reform law really means to you -- while you still have it.

1. If you are employed and enjoy health insurance as part of your work benefit package: The Affordable Care Act does not currently have a large impact on large self-insured companies; however, as the law is fully implemented in 2014 and beyond, there is a chance that your employer may determine that employees can get cheaper coverage through a state exchange and over time some employers may drop employer-sponsored coverage. If you work for one of those companies, you may actually have more choice of plans through an exchange and depending on whether or not the employer subsidizes you or you are eligible for a federal subsidy, you may pay less than you do now. Until that time, you will see a few benefits of the ACA -- no lifetime limits on your benefits; restrictions on annual limits; preventive services without co-pays; and adult children allowed to stay on parents' plans until age 26.

2. If you are lucky enough to be on Medicare: The Affordable Care Act has brought seniors a number of significant benefits already. The doughnut hole in prescription drug coverage is being closed every year and will disappear by 2020. In 2011 alone, 3.6 million seniors saved $2.1 billion on their prescription drugs because of health reform. Another benefit for seniors is the preventive services that are available without co-pays and the 4% reduction in premiums for seniors enrolled in managed care Medicare plans (called Medicare Advantage) in 2012.

However, looming on the horizon if there is a Republican sweep in November are big changes to Medicare, including a potential rollback of the ACA benefits and a switch to a voucher system which would give you a fixed amount to buy a plan without any guarantee that the amount would be sufficient to cover what you currently have.

3. If you are self employed and have an individual insurance policy for yourself and your family: Try to keep your policy if you can continue to afford it. Don't let it lag because we do not know the outcome of the November elections, and if the Act is overturned, you will be on the streets again, trying to get coverage as an individual and potentially being turned down for pre-existing conditions.

4. If you are uninsured but are hoping to be able to get it through the Affordable Care Act and a State Exchange: The good news about the fact that the Court upheld the entire law is that you will still have the option to buy insurance through an Exchange in your state and if your state does not offer one, through a federal exchange. And you will get help affording that premium via a federal subsidy that will allow you to earn up to 400% of the federal poverty level before the subsidy phases out. For those who have a pre-existing condition, the law still guarantees that insurers must accept you starting in 2014.

Again, the election in November will determine whether or not the positive features of the ACA will survive.

5. If you are a small employer and were hoping to be able to help your employees get health insurance at a reasonable rate through the state exchanges: There will still be options for you and your employees. The state exchanges will be open to individuals and small business, offering a variety of plan options at a variety of prices, much like the Massachusetts exchange. Up to now, small businesses have found it very expensive to insure their employees, particularly if any of them have been sick.

If Republicans sweep the November elections, it won't matter how the Supreme Court has ruled. The entire Affordable Care Act will be repealed and the Republicans have no plan to replace it with a plan that could make health care more affordable. Don't forget that the Republican plan for health reform has only three or four main provisions -- protect doctors with malpractice reform; allow fly-by-night insurers to sell their "hospital gown" plans (looks good in the front but is bare in the back) across state lines; and make you, the consumer "more accountable" for your health care costs (translation: you pay more). And this is NOT a tax on the middle class! This is a tax on people who do not take personal responsibility for their health care. This is a tax on those who would shift their costs to the rest of us!


There are many benefits of the Affordable Care Act. Educate yourself and fight to keep them.

David_Lee_Halen wrote:

GeddyCriss3 wrote:I was at Subway today for lunch and two ladies in front of me were talking about how great it is that everyone now is going to have free health care...LMFAO.

Were they good looking? Sounds like you could've easily scored by telling them something stupid.

Danzig in the Dark wrote:

Linda Bergthold of the Huffington Post wrote: The Supreme Court UPHOLDS Health Reform -- What Does It Mean for You?
In a surprise decision, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act passed in 2010. You will hear a lot of commentary from legal and policy experts in the next few weeks about this decision, but this post is about what the Court action means for YOU personally.

The outcry from the right will be deafening, and there will be attempts by the House Republicans between now and November to take out sections of the law, although the Senate Democratic majority is not likely to approve any of those actions. Obviously, if the Republicans win the presidency and the Senate in November, the ACA may not survive to its full 2014 implementation date. Now is the time to acquaint yourself with what the health reform law really means to you -- while you still have it.

1. If you are employed and enjoy health insurance as part of your work benefit package: The Affordable Care Act does not currently have a large impact on large self-insured companies; however, as the law is fully implemented in 2014 and beyond, there is a chance that your employer may determine that employees can get cheaper coverage through a state exchange and over time some employers may drop employer-sponsored coverage. If you work for one of those companies, you may actually have more choice of plans through an exchange and depending on whether or not the employer subsidizes you or you are eligible for a federal subsidy, you may pay less than you do now. Until that time, you will see a few benefits of the ACA -- no lifetime limits on your benefits; restrictions on annual limits; preventive services without co-pays; and adult children allowed to stay on parents' plans until age 26.

2. If you are lucky enough to be on Medicare: The Affordable Care Act has brought seniors a number of significant benefits already. The doughnut hole in prescription drug coverage is being closed every year and will disappear by 2020. In 2011 alone, 3.6 million seniors saved $2.1 billion on their prescription drugs because of health reform. Another benefit for seniors is the preventive services that are available without co-pays and the 4% reduction in premiums for seniors enrolled in managed care Medicare plans (called Medicare Advantage) in 2012.

However, looming on the horizon if there is a Republican sweep in November are big changes to Medicare, including a potential rollback of the ACA benefits and a switch to a voucher system which would give you a fixed amount to buy a plan without any guarantee that the amount would be sufficient to cover what you currently have.

3. If you are self employed and have an individual insurance policy for yourself and your family: Try to keep your policy if you can continue to afford it. Don't let it lag because we do not know the outcome of the November elections, and if the Act is overturned, you will be on the streets again, trying to get coverage as an individual and potentially being turned down for pre-existing conditions.

4. If you are uninsured but are hoping to be able to get it through the Affordable Care Act and a State Exchange: The good news about the fact that the Court upheld the entire law is that you will still have the option to buy insurance through an Exchange in your state and if your state does not offer one, through a federal exchange. And you will get help affording that premium via a federal subsidy that will allow you to earn up to 400% of the federal poverty level before the subsidy phases out. For those who have a pre-existing condition, the law still guarantees that insurers must accept you starting in 2014.

Again, the election in November will determine whether or not the positive features of the ACA will survive.

5. If you are a small employer and were hoping to be able to help your employees get health insurance at a reasonable rate through the state exchanges: There will still be options for you and your employees. The state exchanges will be open to individuals and small business, offering a variety of plan options at a variety of prices, much like the Massachusetts exchange. Up to now, small businesses have found it very expensive to insure their employees, particularly if any of them have been sick.

If Republicans sweep the November elections, it won't matter how the Supreme Court has ruled. The entire Affordable Care Act will be repealed and the Republicans have no plan to replace it with a plan that could make health care more affordable. Don't forget that the Republican plan for health reform has only three or four main provisions -- protect doctors with malpractice reform; allow fly-by-night insurers to sell their "hospital gown" plans (looks good in the front but is bare in the back) across state lines; and make you, the consumer "more accountable" for your health care costs (translation: you pay more). And this is NOT a tax on the middle class! This is a tax on people who do not take personal responsibility for their health care. This is a tax on those who would shift their costs to the rest of us!


There are many benefits of the Affordable Care Act. Educate yourself and fight to keep them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-ber ... 26172.html

Winter wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but what will they do to people who cant afford insurance and never get it? People who are jobless, and simply cannot find a job, really arent going to have the money to afford health insurance.

The 13th Ghost wrote:

Winter wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but what will they do to people who cant afford insurance and never get it? People who are jobless, and simply cannot find a job, really arent going to have the money to afford health insurance.

Rorysfan wrote:

David_Lee_Halen wrote:

GeddyCriss3 wrote:I was at Subway today for lunch and two ladies in front of me were talking about how great it is that everyone now is going to have free health care...LMFAO.

Were they good looking? Sounds like you could've easily scored by telling them something stupid.

Probably cuz he didn't have anyone from Fixed News telling him what to think or say.

roxxxtar wrote:

DEATH ROW JOE wrote: Individuals that fail to pay the penalty will not be subject to criminal penalties, liens or levies.