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June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:48 am
by brotherplanet
Nothing to brag about...


June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%


The U.S. economy created just 80,000 jobs in June and the unemployment rate held steady at 8.2 percent, reflecting continued slow growth in the economy with the presidential election just four months away.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics said private payrolls increased 84,000, while the government lost 4,000 jobs. Economists expected job growth of about 100,000 and the unemployment rate to be unchanged, though many had increased their forecasts based on some recent indicators.

With yet another month of weak employment growth, the second quarter marks the worst three-month period in two years. The period averaged just 75,000 per month, against 226,000 in the first quarter, which benefited from an unusually mild winter.

May's weak initial 69,000 report was revised upward to 77,000, which made the June growth essentially the same. The April number was revised lower, from 77,000 to 68,000.

"What a disappointing number," said Jeff Savage, regional chief investment officer for Wells Fargo Private Bank. "This was kind of disastrous. We're not even keeping up with demographics at this point. This is not going to be liked in the markets."

The stock market, where futures had been essentially flat before the jobs number was released at 8:30 am ET, fell sharply, though that disappointment could be tempered by hopes of more stimulus from Washington.

"QE3 will be back on the table," Savage said in reference to the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing program. "It will certainly get more serious discussion now. Those who want the Fed to get more involved will have a lot of ammunition off this particular report."

There were a few bright spots: The overall work week edged higher by 0.1 hour to 34.5 hours and average hourly earnings grew 6 cents to $23.50. Also, one of the surveys the government uses to compute the number showed 128,000 more Americans with jobs.

The birth-death model, which approximates the amount of jobs gained through new businesses created too recently to be counted in the formal survey, added 124,000 positions, meaning that without the estimation the total count would have been a loss of 44,000.

"There is little hope of an acceleration in the pace of job growth any time soon," said Kathy Bostjancic, director of macroeconomic analysis for The Conference Board. "These conditions are likely to persist at least through the summer and possibly longer."

Manufacturing saw 11,000 more jobs, though the bulk of gains continued to come from services, which increased by 67,000.

But it was an otherwise dismal report that will up the stakes in the race between President Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

"We now have 28 months in a row of private sector job growth," Alan Krueger, chairman of the president's Council of Economic Advisors, told CNBC's "Squawk on the Street." "That's moving in the right direction, but we'd like to have faster job growth."

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Krueger passed blame to Congress, which he said could have helped fix the problem by passing all the measures Obama proposed for job creation last year.

The details drew an unflattering picture of the American economic picture.

"There's a lot of misery in America today, and these numbers understate what Americans are feeling — the amount of pain that is occurring in middle-class America," Romney said during a campaign stop.

A measure of unemployment that includes discouraged workers ticked higher to 14.9 percent, its highest level since February, while the labor force participation rate stayed near a 30-year low at 63.8 percent.

Unemployment for blacks surged to 14.4 percent — the highest level of 2012 and up from 13.6 percent in May — while the 11.0 percent rate for Latinos was unchanged over May but also at a high for the year.

Long-term unemployment, or those without jobs for 27 or more weeks, edged lower to 5.37 million, though the average duration of joblessness rose to 39.9 weeks, the highest since February.

Employment gains also came from professional and business services (47,000), temporary help (25,000) and health care (13,000).

The unemployment rate is the most closely watched indicator as to whether the Federal Reserve will step in with additional monetary easing.

Recent economic indicators have painted a fairly gloomy picture, with Institute of Supply Management numbers indicating a contraction, though factory orders have jumped and Thursday's ADP private payrolls report was better than expected.

Last month's anemic jobs growth and the rise of the unemployment rate to 8.2 percent sent off a wave of speculation that the central bank would initiate a third round of quantitative easing

The program entails the Fedbuying Treasurys and other debt in an effort to provide liquidity, drive down interest rates and boost risk assets like stocks. At its meeting last month, the Fed decided to extend its Operation Twist program, in which it buys longer-dated securities and sells an equal amount of shorter-term debt.

That differs from QE in that it does not expand the Fed's $2.8 trillion balance sheet.

With economic growth mired at 1.9 percent and possibly heading lower through the year, the pressure for more stimulus could build, despite congressional opposition.

Washington is under pressure to avoid the fiscal cliff — a term coined by Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to describe the series of tax increases and spending cuts that will take place should Congress fail to achieve deficit-reduction goals by the end of the year.

Among the provisions involved are emergency unemployment benefits, which allow the jobless to collect 99 weeks of unemployment. Those who lose jobs in July will be covered only by state unemployment compensation, which runs to 26 weeks.

"The economy is stuck with slow job growth and high unemployment. It desperately needs a boost to get out of this ditch," Christine Owens, executive director of the National Employment Law Project, said in a statement.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/48092010

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:01 am
by FullMetalWhackit
This economy is stuck in neutral. How many more dismal jobs reports should be expected before things turn around for good? Or is this the new norm? Pretty disheartening if it is.

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:00 am
by DEATH ROW JOE
FullMetalWhackit wrote:This economy is stuck in neutral. How many more dismal jobs reports should be expected before things turn around for good? Or is this the new norm? Pretty disheartening if it is.
Things do not "turn around for good." There is a business cycle. The economy expands and contracts. The economy is expanding so "turning things around" means the start of a recession.

Unemployment is a lagging economic indicator so it's easy to see the cause of sluggish job growth. You only have to look back 2-3 quarters at the numbers published by the commerce department for GDP growth.

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1) Consumption is weak because 7 trillion dollars of home equity (red line above) was wiped out by the housing bubble. You need consumption to contribute about 3% and it's contributing about half that. People are poorer so they consume less. Nothing has replaced the wealth destroyed by the housing collapse.
2) there was excessive residential real estate investment during the "Bush Boom" so real estate investment is depressed (blue line above) It's lower than it was in 2000 while the economy is 50% larger (15 trillion vs 9.5 trillion)
3) cuts in govt consumption and investment slow growth further

Growth will improve when the economy recovers from the Bush housing bubble and govt stops cutting consumption and investment. Maybe sometime in 2014 or 2015. So expect weak employment reports for a few more years.

In addition, the Bush recession wiped out every job added to the private sector after 1998. Working age population grew for 11 years while private sector employment shrank. So consumption is further depressed by high unemployment.

Private sector employment:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
Jan 1999: 107.402 million
Jan 2010: 106.800 million== 602,000 jobs lost over 11 years

Working Age Population:
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS10000000
Jan 1999: 206.719 million
Jan 2010: 236.832 million == 30 million more workers

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:46 am
by brotherplanet
FullMetalWhackit wrote:This economy is stuck in neutral. How many more dismal jobs reports should be expected before things turn around for good? Or is this the new norm? Pretty disheartening if it is.

It is starting to feel like the new reality. We've been stuck with an 8% + unemployment rate since Obama took office.

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:58 pm
by RATTdrools
But we were shedding over 500K jobs a month toward the end of Bush's last term but now we've had 28 straight months of job growth!

Thanks to Bush's policies unemployment was as high as 11%! So things have gotten much better!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:37 am
by brotherplanet
RATTrules wrote:But we were shedding over 500K jobs a month toward the end of Bush's last term but now we've had 28 straight months of job growth!

Thanks to Bush's policies unemployment was as high as 11%! So things have gotten much better!
Yeah, no doubt Bush got the ball rolling, but that 11% you mentioned wasn't the national rate (unless you counted the underemployed, but in that case it went even higher under Obama).


And it's hard to blame Bush on Obama's last year of his first term. There's gotta come a point where you say the guy before you fucked up and you're not smart enough to do all that much about it.

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:18 pm
by RATTdrools
Ask any university economics professor and they'll tell you it can take longer than a presidential term to turn an economy around!

Polling has shown Americans still place a hefty blame on Bush's 8 years and it's TRUE!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:06 pm
by Danzig in the Dark
brotherplanet wrote:
RATTrules wrote:But we were shedding over 500K jobs a month toward the end of Bush's last term but now we've had 28 straight months of job growth!

Thanks to Bush's policies unemployment was as high as 11%! So things have gotten much better!
Yeah, no doubt Bush got the ball rolling, but that 11% you mentioned wasn't the national rate (unless you counted the underemployed, but in that case it went even higher under Obama).


And it's hard to blame Bush on Obama's last year of his first term. There's gotta come a point where you say the guy before you fucked up and you're not smart enough to do all that much about it.
I remember a bunch of Republicans mocking Obama supporters for thinking that he would easily and quickly fix the economy. While most of us had no illusions about the uphill battle he faced, I'm sure there were idiots who expected just that. Were you one of those idiots?

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:38 pm
by RATTdrools
And all this time Romney outsourced jobs to other nations and stashes millions in foreign bank accounts!

The MORON is hardly in touch with the American people!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:52 pm
by roxxxtar
Danzig in the Dark wrote:
brotherplanet wrote:
RATTrules wrote:But we were shedding over 500K jobs a month toward the end of Bush's last term but now we've had 28 straight months of job growth!

Thanks to Bush's policies unemployment was as high as 11%! So things have gotten much better!
Yeah, no doubt Bush got the ball rolling, but that 11% you mentioned wasn't the national rate (unless you counted the underemployed, but in that case it went even higher under Obama).


And it's hard to blame Bush on Obama's last year of his first term. There's gotta come a point where you say the guy before you fucked up and you're not smart enough to do all that much about it.
I remember a bunch of Republicans mocking Obama supporters for thinking that he would easily and quickly fix the economy. While most of us had no illusions about the uphill battle he faced, I'm sure there were idiots who expected just that. Were you one of those idiots?
Obama said if elected, he could do it in one term. Was he one of those idiots?

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:04 pm
by roxxxtar
Back in 2009, Team Obama predicted that if Congress passed its $800 billion stimulus plan, the unemployment rate would be around 5.6% today.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/
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If the size of the U.S. labor force as a share of the total population was the same as it was when Barack Obama took office—65.7% then vs. 63.8% today—the U-3 unemployment rate would be 10.9%.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/

184,000 more black American's went without a job in June, for an unemployment rate of 14.4 percent. Barack Hussein Obama hates black people.
http://www.businessinsider.com/june-non ... ort-2012-7

More workers joined the federal government's disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports … While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits
http://news.investors.com/article/61723 ... -obama.htm

This continues to be the longest streak — 41 months — of unemployment of 8% or higher since the Great Depression.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/
At this pace, job creation is not fast enough to lower the unemployment rate with the labor force growing at close to 150,000 per month on average.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/




4 MORE YEARS! 4MORE YEARS!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:30 pm
by RATTdrools
ALL presidents make promises!

The key is we were losing THOUSANDS of jobs every month under Bush yet have had 28 straight months of job growth under Obama!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:08 am
by roxxxtar
RATTrules wrote:ALL presidents make promises!

The key is we were losing THOUSANDS of jobs every month under Bush yet have had 28 straight months of job growth under Obama!

During the first three years of the Reagan Recovery, job growth averaged 273,000 a month for a total of 9.8 million. If you adjust for the larger U.S. population today, the Reagan Recovery averaged 360,000 jobs a month for a three-year total of 13 million jobs. Compared to his modern predecessors, the ObamaRecovery has been a failure.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:46 am
by tin00can
If only we had some sort of threat like 80s Russia, Obama could pull a Reagan and increase military spending to create more jobs.

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:11 pm
by brotherplanet
Danzig in the Dark wrote:
brotherplanet wrote:
RATTrules wrote:But we were shedding over 500K jobs a month toward the end of Bush's last term but now we've had 28 straight months of job growth!

Thanks to Bush's policies unemployment was as high as 11%! So things have gotten much better!
Yeah, no doubt Bush got the ball rolling, but that 11% you mentioned wasn't the national rate (unless you counted the underemployed, but in that case it went even higher under Obama).


And it's hard to blame Bush on Obama's last year of his first term. There's gotta come a point where you say the guy before you fucked up and you're not smart enough to do all that much about it.
I remember a bunch of Republicans mocking Obama supporters for thinking that he would easily and quickly fix the economy. While most of us had no illusions about the uphill battle he faced, I'm sure there were idiots who expected just that. Were you one of those idiots?

I've made several comments in the past which were contrary to that.


You also realize he's on the last year of his first term, right, or are you an idiot?

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:12 pm
by brotherplanet
roxxxtar wrote:
RATTrules wrote:ALL presidents make promises!

The key is we were losing THOUSANDS of jobs every month under Bush yet have had 28 straight months of job growth under Obama!

During the first three years of the Reagan Recovery, job growth averaged 273,000 a month for a total of 9.8 million. If you adjust for the larger U.S. population today, the Reagan Recovery averaged 360,000 jobs a month for a three-year total of 13 million jobs. Compared to his modern predecessors, the ObamaRecovery has been a failure.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/june-j ... continues/
Bingo!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:14 pm
by Danzig in the Dark
brotherplanet wrote: I've made several comments in the past which were contrary to that.
Contrary to what? You didn't expect him to fix 8 years of Republican mismanagement in less than 4 years and have the economy roaring along like it was just a bad dream? That is exactly why you are bitching. It's getting better slowly, but it is getting better. You are one of those assclowns Limbaugh mocked when he sang "Barack the Magic Negro"* or you're a particularly unskilled and transparent Republican troll.

brotherplanet wrote:You also realize he's on the last year of his first term, right, or are you an idiot?
Congratulations. You know how long a President's term is and how to read a calendar. Enjoy your Bozo button.
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*This is another exhibit for the 'why Obama makes conservatives mad' thread. :lol:

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:47 am
by brotherplanet
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Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:26 pm
by Danzig in the Dark
Tell us exactly where you expected the economy to be at now, brotherplanet? Let's see how realistic your expectations are. Enquiring minds want to know.


...or you can finally give up the charade that you are not a Republican. No one believes it anyways.

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:11 pm
by RATTdrools
Everyone knows the Repukes care mostly only for the rich and fuck everyone else over!

We're better off with Obama!

Re: June Job Creation at 80,000; Rate Holds Steady at 8.2%

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:52 pm
by Skate4RnR
He don't like Osama Bin Laden. Lotta people pissed (Americans) now he dead. Funny how we be on red alert not so long ago but that was all political wasn't it? I like it better now, thank you Barack.