I think this article is pretty cool. Many of my conservatie friends were screaming at the TV during the 3rd debate. This explains well why they were wrong and Romney was right to pull the punches and give Obama his due on a few issues.
Insane Anglo Warlord - The left was easily confused by Reagan, too.
By JAMES TARANTO
Mitt Romney missed a golden opportunity during last night's debate. "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back," Barack Obama said. The perfect comeback would have been: "Oh yeah? Well, the ocean called, and they're running outta ships!" True, Romney delivered a version of this zinger, but much later. His timing was all wrong.
Oh well, maybe Romney can arrange another meeting with the president and get it right this time. We understand Obama will be in Ohio.
Obama went on to tell Romney: "You seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s." So he's Reagan, Eisenhower and Coolidge all rolled into one? Sounds way too good to be true, but one can only hope. (A New York Sun editorial makes the same point, though with a caveat about racial segregation in the 1950s, which we prefer to think of as the decade of Brown v. Board of Education and the first federal civil rights law since Reconstruction.)
Ike and Coolidge aside, the president's dismissive attitude toward Reagan's foreign policy is telling. It underscores why, despite having "won" again by showing up, Obama failed last night. Before the debate, the left was confident that Romney would scare the hell out of voters by coming across as, in the words of New York Times editorialist David Firestone, a "strutting warmonger." After the debate, they started mocking him as "Peacenik Mitt," as in this post from the Washington Post's Greg Sargent.
Just like in the first debate, the left is calling Romney a LIAR!!!! because he did not conform to their stick-figure caricature of him. "By reversing his views on war and peace, Romney has raised a character issue about his ability to be trusted as a steadfast defender of U.S.," tweeted Bloomberg's Jonathan Alter. The New York Times's Bill Keller writes that "I expect he sent the neocon wing of his campaign running for the smelling salts," evidently having misunderstood neoconservatism to be a doctrine of constant armed conflict.
Back in the '80s, they called Reagan a warmonger too--and nowhere more so than in elite universities such as those where a young Barack Obama was indoctrinated. History does not record the name of the person who noticed that you can rearrange the letters of "Ronald Wilson Reagan" to spell "insane Anglo warlord," but that unknown anagramist provided that decade's leftists with many a self-satisfied chuckle.
But what wars exactly did Ronald Reagan mong? The 1983 liberation of tiny Grenada was not exactly Normandy, and the 1986 bombing of Libya was small potatoes compared with last year's French-led, Obama-followed intervention in that country that finally toppled Muammar Gadhafi.
Today Reagan is generally credited with having won the Cold War while firing nary a shot. But to the left at the time, his byword of "peace through strength" just didn't compute. A more submissive America, they imagined, would placate prospective adversaries. It never dawned on them that a confident attitude can be disarming. Romney seems to have figured that out.
The 1980s called...
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LMFAO, no wonder you think that is a good article. The article is entirely based on taking out of context Obama's statement that the "1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back." He was criticizing Romney for overstating the threat Russia poses. He was not criticizing Reagan's foreign policy suggesting that Romney would be like Reagan.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida's a threat because a few months ago when you were asked, what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaida, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years.
But, Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s.
So far as Reagan's foreign policy, he is not "generally credited with having won the Cold War." Credit is generally given to both parties and the American people.
This is what Bush Sr said in the 1992 convention:
Well, make no mistake: The demise of communism wasn't a sure thing. It took the strong leadership of Presidents from both parties, including Republicans like Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. Without their vision and the support of the American people, the Soviet Union would be a strong superpower today, and we'd be facing a nuclear threat tonight.
http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3431
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida's a threat because a few months ago when you were asked, what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaida, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years.
But, Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s.
So far as Reagan's foreign policy, he is not "generally credited with having won the Cold War." Credit is generally given to both parties and the American people.
This is what Bush Sr said in the 1992 convention:
Well, make no mistake: The demise of communism wasn't a sure thing. It took the strong leadership of Presidents from both parties, including Republicans like Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. Without their vision and the support of the American people, the Soviet Union would be a strong superpower today, and we'd be facing a nuclear threat tonight.
http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3431
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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:LMFAO, no wonder you think that is a good article. The article is entirely based on taking out of context Obama's statement that the "1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back." He was criticizing Romney for overstating the threat Russia poses. He was not criticizing Reagan's foreign policy suggesting that Romney would be like Reagan.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida's a threat because a few months ago when you were asked, what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia — not al-Qaida, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years.
But, Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s.
So far as Reagan's foreign policy, he is not "generally credited with having won the Cold War." Credit is generally given to both parties and the American people.
This is what Bush Sr said in the 1992 convention:
Well, make no mistake: The demise of communism wasn't a sure thing. It took the strong leadership of Presidents from both parties, including Republicans like Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. Without their vision and the support of the American people, the Soviet Union would be a strong superpower today, and we'd be facing a nuclear threat tonight.
http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3431
No Shit? We all thought It was about giant cell phones, Rubic's cubes and wraparounds shades.
Look I understand you are grumpy since RCP fucked you without a kiss this morning, but no reason to be a bitch about it. You should do yourself a favor and stop running your dicksucker and stick to the charts and graphs. No one reads that shit and you can pretend you've got a reason to live.
You're comming unglued. Scratch that. You're melting.
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LMFAO, you don't read anything and it shows. Plenty read my posts. I frequently get PMs thanking me for exposing your stupidity (along with the rest of the white trash GOPers on this site).tylamonroe wrote: No one reads that shit and you can pretend you've got a reason to live.
Regarding RCP:
RCP Average 10/17 - 10/23 -- -- 47.9 45.8 Obama +2.1
Rasmussen Reports 10/23 - 10/23 750 LV 4.0 48 48 Tie
Time 10/22 - 10/23 783 LV 3.0 49 44 Obama +5
SurveyUSA 10/20 - 10/22 609 LV 4.1 47 44 Obama +3
Suffolk 10/18 - 10/21 600 LV 4.0 47 47 Tie
PPP (D) 10/18 - 10/20 532 LV 4.3 49 48 Obama +1
CBS News/Quinnipiac 10/17 - 10/20 1548 LV 3.0 50 45 Obama +5
Gravis Marketing 10/18 - 10/19 1943 LV 2.2 47 47 Tie
FOX News 10/17 - 10/18 1131 LV 3.0 46 43 Obama +3
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Well I'm very proud of you Joey. You are doing the nation a great service and the voters at Metal Sludge can't thank you enough. I know it feels good when people acknowledge you, but just remember that some boys only want to get into your cheerleader skirt and will say anything to get there. Just remember you are worth waiting for, k?DEATH ROW JOE wrote:tylamonroe wrote: No one reads that shit and you can pretend you've got a reason to live.
Now,
Where are you getting your first RCP average? Is that national, a state, what?
Today's RCP national advantage has Romney up by a fraction for 10-15 to 10-23.
Rasmussen has Romney up 4 for the date you are giving, not a tie.
Explain those two to me before we go on please.
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Wow.tylamonroe wrote:Mitt Romney missed a golden opportunity during last night's debate. "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back," Barack Obama said. The perfect comeback would have been: "Oh yeah? Well, the ocean called, and they're running outta ships!
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EvilRockPosh wrote:Wow.tylamonroe wrote:Mitt Romney missed a golden opportunity during last night's debate. "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back," Barack Obama said. The perfect comeback would have been: "Oh yeah? Well, the ocean called, and they're running outta ships!
Okay, is it not clear from the link that this is a townhall article. Not known for their humor, but the guy is TRYING to be George Canstazaesque... He is TRYING to make the point that Mitt didn't fall into Obama's 5th grade playground shouting match.
Just pointing out that I didn't write the article since the quote function reads "tylamonroe said" and I am perfectly capable of being unfunny all on my own.
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"I knew Mr. Reagan and Mr. Romney...YOU ARE NO RONALD REAGAN BITCH SUCK THAT NIGGER'S DICK BITCH!"


