It's one thing to think one side has better ideas than another, but considering how both parties have screwed us over the years how can anyone be loyal to a politician?
Bush signs the Patriot Act and the left hates it and calls him a Nazi. Obama extends it and the Left stays very quiet.
Bush starts wars and the Right cheers him on. Obama starts or continues wars and the Right freaks the fuck out.
Obama makes it legal to jail an American citizen for life without trial and the Left stays quiet. Romney says he also would have signed the same document and he's given a pass as well.
As a Nation we freaked out over SOPA, but not this???
Seriously! What the fuck is wrong with people???
How can you be so loyal?
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
I'm not staying loyal to anyone. I typically vote Green Party, but this year I'm voting for Obama based on the Affordable Care Act alone. Voting party over policy is a travesty IMO - Repubs are crazy now and Dems have rendered themselves virtually useless.
That said, anyone who sits around waiting for the perfect candidate is going to always find themselves doing just that... sitting around waiting for a perfect candidate. There are no panaceas in politics.
That said, anyone who sits around waiting for the perfect candidate is going to always find themselves doing just that... sitting around waiting for a perfect candidate. There are no panaceas in politics.
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
Brotherplanet is just a self-admitted troll. Pay no heed to him.
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
He's just trolling. He keeps repeating the same crap over and over even though he's been proven wrong.
First, the left did not stay quiet. The ACLU and many others made a big deal out of it.
ACLU - NDAA
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa
Rachel Maddow on NDAA passing - treasonous bill
http://youtu.be/82nTgFC5tHU
Second, the executive branch still has to provide citizens with due process. The NDAA can't do anything more than codify existing powers. Congress can't supersede the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment. The Constitution does not always require govt to charge citizens or provide them with a trial when restricting liberty. Also, a citizen gets no additional protection under the 4th, 5th and 6th. Those amendments apply to people, not just citizens. So the complaint that "citizens can be jailed without trial" is phrased in a trollish and ignorant manner.
4th Amendment:
"The right of the people "
5th Amendment:
"No person"
6th Amendment:
"the accused"
Citizenship is irrelevant.
Another birtherplanet thread fails.
First, the left did not stay quiet. The ACLU and many others made a big deal out of it.
ACLU - NDAA
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa
Rachel Maddow on NDAA passing - treasonous bill
http://youtu.be/82nTgFC5tHU
Second, the executive branch still has to provide citizens with due process. The NDAA can't do anything more than codify existing powers. Congress can't supersede the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment. The Constitution does not always require govt to charge citizens or provide them with a trial when restricting liberty. Also, a citizen gets no additional protection under the 4th, 5th and 6th. Those amendments apply to people, not just citizens. So the complaint that "citizens can be jailed without trial" is phrased in a trollish and ignorant manner.
4th Amendment:
"The right of the people "
5th Amendment:
"No person"
6th Amendment:
"the accused"
Citizenship is irrelevant.
Another birtherplanet thread fails.
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
Danzig in the Dark wrote:Brotherplanet is just a self-admitted troll. Pay no heed to him.
You can do better than that.
Like actually respond to what is posted.
Wait... You can't.
joey.. Made a big deal? Yeah, they may have made a comment, but a big deal? You're funny.
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
Awwww, the little bitch is unhappy that I'm not playing the game.
You post this shit ad nauseam and pretend like you've never brought it up before. It's like you're in a moronic version of Fifty First Dates. DRJ can answer you again but I'll wait until you get your ass handed to you yet again to see if you try to pass it off as trolling:
Getting people to make fun of you for being an ignorant asshat is not a skill nor an accomplishment of any note. Billions of ignorant asshats do it every day, both online and offline.
You post this shit ad nauseam and pretend like you've never brought it up before. It's like you're in a moronic version of Fifty First Dates. DRJ can answer you again but I'll wait until you get your ass handed to you yet again to see if you try to pass it off as trolling:
viewtopic.php?p=5777638#p5777638brotherplanet wrote:You really think I take this Sludge stuff as seriously as you, don't you?
The polls don't mean shit until election day. Up until then it's cheerleading.
I'm not doing damage control. I still haven't read the article, because I don't care.
I just wanted to see how fast you would respond and I can see that you stopped thinking about what life would be like with a real girl to post fast enough to accidentally drop your sister's Barbie dolls.
Don't you get it? There are people who are just having fun here? You jump through hoops real good. You entertain us. If Obama wins I don't care. If Romney wins I don't care, but if Romney does win it's going to be hysterical to read about your melt down.
Do you get it now? I'm not the only person to write that they're just having fun on a message board. Get it? Get it??? In fact I've mentioned this more than once before and you still continue to jump through hoops like Pavlov's dogs who can't help but salivate when they hear a bell ring.
It's called Behavior Modification and you've been trained to react something good.
Getting people to make fun of you for being an ignorant asshat is not a skill nor an accomplishment of any note. Billions of ignorant asshats do it every day, both online and offline.
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
Not taking this as seriously as you do means not getting all bent out of shape the way you do. It's just sludge. Watching joey freak out is actually sort of entertaining and watching you run to his defense is also kind of funny.
We can talk about shit and not freak out, because well... Who gives a shit?
Apparently this is far beyond you.
So... Why are you so loyal to a party that doesn't give a shit about you?
We can talk about shit and not freak out, because well... Who gives a shit?
Apparently this is far beyond you.
So... Why are you so loyal to a party that doesn't give a shit about you?
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Re: How can you be so loyal?
No one is freaking out about this any more than they are freaking out about Paul Stanley's and Diamond Dave's preference for poles over polls.
it's not about loyalty. Even a simpleton should be able to understand this.
it's not about loyalty. Even a simpleton should be able to understand this.