Damn, this is close

[brotherplanet]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows the race tied with President Obama and Mitt Romney each attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and another one percent (1%) remains undecided

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Ohio: Obama 49%, Romney 49%
An Unpredictable End to a Very Predictable Election By Scott Rasmussen
Wisconsin: Obama 49%, Romney 49%
Florida: Romney 50%, Obama 48%


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll



ABCWASHPOST:
Romney’s held his ground nonetheless, notably with record levels of support within the Republican Party and broad backing in some of its key constituencies, and in the final weekend of the race the contest remains deadlocked, with 49 percent support for Obama among likely voters, 48 percent for Romney in the latest ABC News/Washington Post daily tracking poll


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... t-so-much/



USA TODAY and Gallup
Final Swing States Poll: Fired-up voters split, 48%-48%


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... -/1680827/

[DEATH ROW JOE]

LMFAO, you fucking imbecile. The national popular vote count is close but Obama is an overwhelming favorite to win Ohio and the election. If there is one second left in a football game and the team with the ball has a one point lead, the game is close but the outcome is very certain. That's the current state of this election. It's over and Romney is the loser.

The casinos are giving Obama between a 74% to 83% chance of winning the election.

US Presidential Election Winner Betting Odds
Barack Obama (Democrats) 1.2 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.17 1.18 1.2 1.2 1.22 1.2 1.18 1.22 1.22 1.25 1.2 1.26 1.23 1.22 1.24

Election Analytics/Univ of Illinois forecasts 302.6 EV and give Obama a 99.6% chance of winning the election.

Princeton Election Analyticspredicts 305 electoral votes and gives Obama a 98% chance of winning.

538forecasts 308 electoral votes and gives Obama a 87% chance of winning the election.

These 32 polls average out to Obama +2.9. The margin of error of 32 polls with 1000 respondents each is +/-.55%. The only way Romney can win is if there is average is off more than 2.35% (ie: massive systemic polling error in a presidential election). Depending on who you ask, the chance of that happening is between 1% (Univ of Ill. and Princeton) and 13% (538).

Ohio

Polls 538 WT. Date Dem Rep Margin
PPP 11/4 52.0 47.0 Obama +5.0
Ipsos (online) 11/4 48.0 44.0 Obama +4.0
Ipsos (online) 11/3 46.0 45.0 Obama +1.0
YouGov 11/3 49.0 46.0 Obama +3.0
Columbus Dispatch 11/2 50.0 48.0 Obama +2.0
Ipsos (online) 11/2 47.0 45.0 Obama +2.0
Grove 11/2 49.0 45.0 Obama +4.0
Rasmussen 11/1 49.0 49.0 Tie
CNN/Opinion Research * 11/1 47.0 44.0 Obama +3.0
Ipsos (online) 11/1 47.0 45.0 Obama +2.0
We Ask America 11/1 50.2 45.8 Obama +4.4
NBC/Marist 11/1 51.0 45.0 Obama +6.0
Ipsos (online) 10/31 48.0 45.0 Obama +3.0
Wenzel Strategies 10/31 46.0 49.0 Romney +3.0
U. of Cincinnati/Ohio Poll * 10/30 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
PPP 10/30 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0
Grove 10/29 48.0 45.0 Obama +3.0
Pulse Opinion Research 10/29 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
SurveyUSA 10/29 48.0 45.0 Obama +3.0
Rasmussen 10/28 48.0 50.0 Romney +2.0
The New York Times/Quinnipiac 10/28 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0
PPP 10/28 51.0 47.0 Obama +4.0
Gravis Marketing 10/27 50.0 49.0 Obama +1.0
Purple Strategies 10/25 46.0 44.0 Obama +2.0
Mellman 10/25 49.0 44.0 Obama +5.0
American Research Group 10/25 49.0 47.0 Obama +2.0
CNN/Opinion Research * 10/25 48.0 44.0 Obama +4.0
U. of Cincinnati/Ohio Poll 10/23 49.0 49.0 Tie
Lake Research Partners 10/23 46.0 44.0 Obama +2.0
Pulse Opinion Research 10/23 47.0 47.0 Tie
Time/SRBI 10/23 49.0 44.0 Obama +5.0
SurveyUSA 10/22 47.0 44.0 Obama +3.0

[brotherplanet]

If there is one second left in a football game and the team with the ball has a one point lead, the game is close but the outcome is very certain.

Please explain the Giants last two Superbowl wins.

By the way, I get a kick out of the fact that you even freak out when someone simply says the race is close. You're a crazy person, aren't you?

This really is you!

[MotleyMaiden]

I have heard, and I have to say I agree, that Romney will get the popular vote but Obama will get the Electoral College.

If nothing else tomorrow should be interesting.

[brotherplanet]

I'm looking forward to it. Should be a bit on the exciting side. We're expcting some bad weather tomorrow, so it should make voting in some of the hurricane ravaged areas interesting.

If the election is too close expect calls for recounts no matter who wins.

[MotleyMaiden]

A friend of mine posted on fb and made a good point. How are the people in the areas that are devastated getting to vote? They certainly should be able to exercise their right to do so but with no power and no gas to get to the polls, how are they going to be able to do so?

[brotherplanet]

A friend of mine posted on fb and made a good point. How are the people in the areas that are devastated getting to vote? They certainly should be able to exercise their right to do so but with no power and no gas to get to the polls, how are they going to be able to do so?

It's going to depend on their situation. They may allow voting until the next day and they're supposed to have generators keeping the lights on at the polling places.

Even if all of those people are Obama supporters and none of them get to vote, Obama is going to win New York. I think the same applies to New Jersey.

[brotherplanet]

Just found this article...


New Jersey lets Sandy victims vote via e-mail



(CNN) -- New Jersey residents displaced by Superstorm Sandy will be allowed to vote in Tuesday's elections via e-mail or fax, the first time civilians in the state have been allowed to vote remotely.

Despite some security concerns, the state announced the change to make it easier for voters who may have been forced by flooding, power outages or other storm damage to temporarily leave their communities. The directive also is intended to help emergency workers who are busy with disaster-relief efforts away from home.

Find your polling place

Under the New Jersey directive, displaced storm victims qualify as "overseas voters," meaning they are eligible to vote remotely. To vote electronically, residents first must submit a ballot application by e-mail or fax to their county clerk. Once the application is approved, the clerk will e-mail or fax a ballot to the voter, who must send it back no later than Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.

In many states, remote electronic voting is already available to members of the military and U.S. citizens living overseas, but this marks the first time that civilian residents in New Jersey have been permitted to vote via e-mail.

"This has been an extraordinary storm that has created unthinkable destruction across our state, and we know many people have questions about how and where to cast their vote in Tuesday's election," said Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno in a statement. "To help alleviate pressure on polling places, we encourage voters to either use electronic voting or the extended hours at county offices to cast their vote."

In recent years, as Americans have grown used to banking, shopping and socializing online, many have wondered why they can't vote online as well. Canada, Sweden, Latvia and Switzerland all have experimented with Internet voting, and Estonia has allowed online voting for all of its citizens since 2007.

But many critics argue that Internet-based voting systems are vulnerable to hacking. Critics also worry that electronic voting leaves no paper trail, making it more difficult to determine whether there has been tampering, or some other irregularity, in a close election.

That may not be an issue in the presidential race in New Jersey, where President Barack Obama has maintained a comfortable lead over GOP challenger Gov. Mitt Romney in most polls.

"Does e-mail voting make sense for New Jersey during this emergency? It's hard to say one way or the other without a lot more information than has been released so far about how the system will work and how it will be secured," wrote computer-security expert Matt Blaze in a blog post.

"The security implications of voting by e-mail are, under normal conditions, more than sufficient to make any computer security specialist recoil in horror," he added. "E-mail, of course, is not at all authenticated, reliable, or confidential, and that by itself opens the door to new forms of election mischief that would be far more difficult in a traditional in-person polling station or with paper absentee ballots."

In their announcement of the new directive, New Jersey officials did not explain how they will authenticate e-mails or faxes from voters. A call to Guadagno's office seeking more details was not immediately returned.

New Jersey residents can find contact information for their county clerk at the New Jersey Division of Elections website.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/05/tech/web/ ... index.html

[RATTdrools]

Famed NYT statistician Nate Silver has given Obama an 84% chance of victory and Nate correctly predicted Obama beats McCain and got 49 of 50 Senate races right in 2008!

They also said President Obama's ground game is the best in the history of elections!

[brotherplanet]

GALLUP: R 50% O 49%
ABCWASHPOST: O 50% R 47%
RASMUSSEN: R 49% O 48%

[MotleyMaiden]

Just found this article...


New Jersey lets Sandy victims vote via e-mail



(CNN) -- New Jersey residents displaced by Superstorm Sandy will be allowed to vote in Tuesday's elections via e-mail or fax, the first time civilians in the state have been allowed to vote remotely.

Despite some security concerns, the state announced the change to make it easier for voters who may have been forced by flooding, power outages or other storm damage to temporarily leave their communities. The directive also is intended to help emergency workers who are busy with disaster-relief efforts away from home.

Find your polling place

Under the New Jersey directive, displaced storm victims qualify as "overseas voters," meaning they are eligible to vote remotely. To vote electronically, residents first must submit a ballot application by e-mail or fax to their county clerk. Once the application is approved, the clerk will e-mail or fax a ballot to the voter, who must send it back no later than Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.

In many states, remote electronic voting is already available to members of the military and U.S. citizens living overseas, but this marks the first time that civilian residents in New Jersey have been permitted to vote via e-mail.

"This has been an extraordinary storm that has created unthinkable destruction across our state, and we know many people have questions about how and where to cast their vote in Tuesday's election," said Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno in a statement. "To help alleviate pressure on polling places, we encourage voters to either use electronic voting or the extended hours at county offices to cast their vote."

In recent years, as Americans have grown used to banking, shopping and socializing online, many have wondered why they can't vote online as well. Canada, Sweden, Latvia and Switzerland all have experimented with Internet voting, and Estonia has allowed online voting for all of its citizens since 2007.

But many critics argue that Internet-based voting systems are vulnerable to hacking. Critics also worry that electronic voting leaves no paper trail, making it more difficult to determine whether there has been tampering, or some other irregularity, in a close election.

That may not be an issue in the presidential race in New Jersey, where President Barack Obama has maintained a comfortable lead over GOP challenger Gov. Mitt Romney in most polls.

"Does e-mail voting make sense for New Jersey during this emergency? It's hard to say one way or the other without a lot more information than has been released so far about how the system will work and how it will be secured," wrote computer-security expert Matt Blaze in a blog post.

"The security implications of voting by e-mail are, under normal conditions, more than sufficient to make any computer security specialist recoil in horror," he added. "E-mail, of course, is not at all authenticated, reliable, or confidential, and that by itself opens the door to new forms of election mischief that would be far more difficult in a traditional in-person polling station or with paper absentee ballots."

In their announcement of the new directive, New Jersey officials did not explain how they will authenticate e-mails or faxes from voters. A call to Guadagno's office seeking more details was not immediately returned.

New Jersey residents can find contact information for their county clerk at the New Jersey Division of Elections website.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/05/tech/web/ ... index.html

I saw this on my local news not long after I posted this. Still, if someone has NO power- how are they expected to have access to email. Esp this far out. I know last year during Irene, my power was only out for about 24 hours but my computer was just about dead by then and I was being forced to charge my phone in the car. I guess it is an option, but may not be so for a lot of people. And again, they need to be able to exercise their right to vote. Even if the state is already locked in.

[brotherplanet]

I'm not sure what they're going to do in that situation beyond giving people more days to vote.


Speaking of the hurricane and the race...

[MotleyMaiden]

And what is exactly surprising? He flip flops around more than an epileptic.

[brotherplanet]

Just found this article...


New Jersey lets Sandy victims vote via e-mail



(CNN) -- New Jersey residents displaced by Superstorm Sandy will be allowed to vote in Tuesday's elections via e-mail or fax, the first time civilians in the state have been allowed to vote remotely.

Despite some security concerns, the state announced the change to make it easier for voters who may have been forced by flooding, power outages or other storm damage to temporarily leave their communities. The directive also is intended to help emergency workers who are busy with disaster-relief efforts away from home.

Find your polling place

Under the New Jersey directive, displaced storm victims qualify as "overseas voters," meaning they are eligible to vote remotely. To vote electronically, residents first must submit a ballot application by e-mail or fax to their county clerk. Once the application is approved, the clerk will e-mail or fax a ballot to the voter, who must send it back no later than Tuesday at 8 p.m. ET.

In many states, remote electronic voting is already available to members of the military and U.S. citizens living overseas, but this marks the first time that civilian residents in New Jersey have been permitted to vote via e-mail.

"This has been an extraordinary storm that has created unthinkable destruction across our state, and we know many people have questions about how and where to cast their vote in Tuesday's election," said Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno in a statement. "To help alleviate pressure on polling places, we encourage voters to either use electronic voting or the extended hours at county offices to cast their vote."

In recent years, as Americans have grown used to banking, shopping and socializing online, many have wondered why they can't vote online as well. Canada, Sweden, Latvia and Switzerland all have experimented with Internet voting, and Estonia has allowed online voting for all of its citizens since 2007.

But many critics argue that Internet-based voting systems are vulnerable to hacking. Critics also worry that electronic voting leaves no paper trail, making it more difficult to determine whether there has been tampering, or some other irregularity, in a close election.

That may not be an issue in the presidential race in New Jersey, where President Barack Obama has maintained a comfortable lead over GOP challenger Gov. Mitt Romney in most polls.

"Does e-mail voting make sense for New Jersey during this emergency? It's hard to say one way or the other without a lot more information than has been released so far about how the system will work and how it will be secured," wrote computer-security expert Matt Blaze in a blog post.

"The security implications of voting by e-mail are, under normal conditions, more than sufficient to make any computer security specialist recoil in horror," he added. "E-mail, of course, is not at all authenticated, reliable, or confidential, and that by itself opens the door to new forms of election mischief that would be far more difficult in a traditional in-person polling station or with paper absentee ballots."

In their announcement of the new directive, New Jersey officials did not explain how they will authenticate e-mails or faxes from voters. A call to Guadagno's office seeking more details was not immediately returned.

New Jersey residents can find contact information for their county clerk at the New Jersey Division of Elections website.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/05/tech/web/ ... index.html

I saw this on my local news not long after I posted this. Still, if someone has NO power- how are they expected to have access to email. Esp this far out. I know last year during Irene, my power was only out for about 24 hours but my computer was just about dead by then and I was being forced to charge my phone in the car. I guess it is an option, but may not be so for a lot of people. And again, they need to be able to exercise their right to vote. Even if the state is already locked in.

They just reported that they would be busing people from Far Rockaway to polling stations.

[Machado]

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday, GOP nominee Mitt Romney told reporters on his plane that he's so confident in a win he's only prepared a victory speech.

"I've only written one speech at this point," Romney said, adding the text of that address was 1,118 words long.

Saying "intellectually" he's felt he was going to win the election for a long time, Romney said his final campaign stops in Ohio and Pittsburgh Tuesday gave him an emotional jolt as well that victory is within his grasp.

As for any campaign regrets, Romney said he had few.

"I'm very proud of the campaign we've run," Romney said, adding that "no campaign is perfect."

"I am very pleased. I feel we have put it all on the field. We left nothing in the locker room," the candidate said.

[brotherplanet]

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday, GOP nominee Mitt Romney told reporters on his plane that he's so confident in a win he's only prepared a victory speech.

If he loses it'll be funny if he looks down and says, "Errr, yeah, I don't know what to say."

[Luminiferous]

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday, GOP nominee Mitt Romney told reporters on his plane that he's so confident in a win he's only prepared a victory speech.

If he loses it'll be funny if he looks down and says, "Errr, yeah, I don't know what to say."

Maybe he can have some fun with it. Pull an Eastwood and start talking to a chair...

[Drunk Kennedy]

not looking good in FL for romney...he looses that...game ova.

[Luminiferous]

I have a feeling that with the troubles they've been reporting about voting machines and the like, there'll be a recount in Florida and Ohio..

[bane]

I have a feeling that with the troubles they've been reporting about voting machines and the like, there'll be a recount in Florida and Ohio..

If its as close as it looks to be, yep. It'll be Bush / Gore 2.0.

[DEATH ROW JOE]

Election called 11:15 EST. This was not a close election.

[Crazy Levi]

I have a feeling that with the troubles they've been reporting about voting machines and the like, there'll be a recount in Florida and Ohio..

If its as close as it looks to be, yep. It'll be Bush / Gore 2.0.

Nah. It's over. Even Fox has conceded.