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Baby Bush scores more conservative than Reagan

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Nate Silver has an article on Rubio and he scored a list of past GOP presidents and potential candidates. For all those saying Bush failed because he was not a conservative, you got an unskewed poll shoved up your ass again. Saint Ronnie scores 44 and Baby Bush scores 46.

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Here is the article:

Marco Rubio: The Electable Conservative?
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... servative/
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Unskewed? lol Nate Silver pulled that straight out of his liberally skewed ass. Have some freaking standards DRJ.

I wonder how Obama would do on that "unskewed" poll? Of course, we'd have to consider which Obama position we are talking about. Like on say, raising the debt ceiling. Would he be rated on his position while in the Senate of voting "No" while calling it a failure of leadership or would he be rated on his present day stance that it's all good and he should have the power to raise it without Congressional consent? He'd rate pretty conservative on debt issues when looking at him in the Senate opposing Bush and as a campaigner bashing Bush for running up the debt and being all unpatriotic by using the Bank of China's credit card. Not so well when looking at his record of spending and mind boggling debt creation.

Or perhaps we could look at his record in the State Senate though that would be difficult to rate based on all those "present" votes...

Most conservatives have owned that Bush was a failure. Get some self respect and do the same about Obama.
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Sheep_Mafia wrote:Unskewed? lol Nate Silver pulled that straight out of his liberally skewed ass. Have some freaking standards DRJ.

I wonder how Obama would do on that "unskewed" poll? Of course, we'd have to consider which Obama position we are talking about. Like on say, raising the debt ceiling. Would he be rated on his position while in the Senate of voting "No" while calling it a failure of leadership or would he be rated on his present day stance that it's all good and he should have the power to raise it without Congressional consent? He'd rate pretty conservative on debt issues when looking at him in the Senate opposing Bush and as a campaigner bashing Bush for running up the debt and being all unpatriotic by using the Bank of China's credit card. Not so well when looking at his record of spending and mind boggling debt creation.

Or perhaps we could look at his record in the State Senate though that would be difficult to rate based on all those "present" votes...

Most conservatives have owned that Bush was a failure. Get some self respect and do the same about Obama.
How would Obama rate in a 'Conservatism Scores for Potential GOP Candidates' list? Why would he even show up on a list ranking past and future Republican Presidential hopefuls? What a retard.
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Sheep_Mafia wrote:Unskewed? lol Nate Silver pulled that straight out of his liberally skewed ass. Have some freaking standards DRJ.

I wonder how Obama would do on that "unskewed" poll? Of course, we'd have to consider which Obama position we are talking about. Like on say, raising the debt ceiling. Would he be rated on his position while in the Senate of voting "No" while calling it a failure of leadership or would he be rated on his present day stance that it's all good and he should have the power to raise it without Congressional consent? He'd rate pretty conservative on debt issues when looking at him in the Senate opposing Bush and as a campaigner bashing Bush for running up the debt and being all unpatriotic by using the Bank of China's credit card. Not so well when looking at his record of spending and mind boggling debt creation.

Or perhaps we could look at his record in the State Senate though that would be difficult to rate based on all those "present" votes...

Most conservatives have owned that Bush was a failure. Get some self respect and do the same about Obama.
How would Obama rate in a 'Conservatism Scores for Potential GOP Candidates' list? Why would he even show up on a list ranking past and future Republican Presidential hopefuls? What a retard.
You unsupprisingly missed the point. I didn't suggest he would be on this list, but posed as an example of the sheer ignorance of how this was put together to consider his record in showing how positions change and calling someone more conservative than someone else doesn't often add up when looking at the political process. I know it's a leap for you to comprehend someone using an example no matter how obvious it is to make a point but that's on you. You're not very smart but I bet even you can grasp that now that I have explained it to you. Or then again, maybe I am giving you too much credit there.
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Re: Baby Bush scores more conservative than Reagan

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How was it put together? You didn't even bother to find out the methodology used to compile the list. Don't worry, I did and thanks to me, you can too: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... servative/

Your 'example' did not illuminate any flaws in Mr. Silver's methodology. Perhaps you should have used a relevant example. Maybe you would have had you bothered to research the list first.
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Danzig in the Dark wrote:How was it put together? You didn't even bother to find out the methodology used to compile the list. Don't worry, I did and thanks to me, you can too: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... servative/

Your 'example' did not illuminate any flaws in Mr. Silver's methodology. Perhaps you should have used a relevant example. Maybe you would have had you bothered to research the list first.
I read how they came up with the ratings and my example perfectly illustrates how flawed they are whether or not you can see that. For example, he cites as one of the methods looking at a person's Congressional votes. I brought up Obama's votes in my example. Which party he is with isn't relevant to my point of how that is flawed. Not to mention the stupidity of putting together a list and giving a score when not all the candidates have the same criteria (like not all were in Congress). Again, in this era of political games, it's not nearly as easy as saying someone is more or less conservative than another based on some votes they made. The Obama example show's that as perfectly as any possibly can. Same thing with the political statement criteria. Again, Obama is a prime example of why you can't go on what a politician says. The fundraising one is laughable in that people contribute based on perception as often as reality. There's often little basis to it of substance so using it in this rating as some legit criteria is dumb.

It's a dumb article that DRJ trotted out here like it's some revelation. I have no doubt that he will respond with the same deflection as you are weakly attempting instead of just saying yeah this is flawed at best.
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Re: Baby Bush scores more conservative than Reagan

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Your example illustrates only your butthurt obsession with Obama.
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