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Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:05 pm
by brotherplanet
Germany to US: 'Bugging friends is unacceptable'




BERLIN - The German government said on Monday if media reports of large-scale U.S. spying on the European Union were confirmed, it would be unacceptable Cold War-style behavior between partners who require mutual trust.

"If it is confirmed that diplomatic representations of the European Union and individual European countries have been spied upon, we will clearly say that bugging friends is unacceptable," said Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman, Steffen Seibert. "We are no longer in the Cold War."

Germany wanted an EU-U.S. free trade deal which would foster economic growth and job creation, said Seibert. But he added: "Mutual trust is necessary in order to come to an agreement."

German magazine Der Spiegel reported over the weekend that the NSA had tapped communications at EU offices in Washington, Brussels and at the United Nations. According to the report, the NSA taps half a billion phone calls, emails and text messages in Germany in a typical month, much more than any other European peer

Meanwhile, the leader of Germany's opposition Greens suggested that Europe provide a safe haven for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who revealed the extent of U.S. surveillance programs.

Juergen Trittin, parliamentary leader and candidate for chancellor of the Greens, Germany's third biggest party, told German television it was an outrage that the 30-year-old leaker should be seeking asylum in "despotic" countries.

"Someone like that should be protected," he said. "He should get safe haven here in Europe because he has done us a service by revealing a massive attack on European citizens and companies. Germany, as part of Europe, could do that."

Trittin did not specify which "despots" he was referring to.

Snowden flew from the United States to Hong Kong and is now in an international airport in Russia seeking asylum in Ecuador - the country that has been sheltering WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in its London embassy since last year.




http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... table?lite




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Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:58 pm
by DEATH ROW JOE
Do you understand what the word "if" means?

The German government said on Monday if media reports of large-scale U.S. spying on the European Union were confirmed,

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:59 pm
by Stoner
:lol:

Edward Snowden tells Der Spiegel NSA is 'in bed with the Germans'
Interview carried out before NSA whistleblower fled to Hong Kong appears to contradict Merkel's public surprise at snooping


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... sa-germans

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:01 pm
by Stoner
The NSA Given a Free Hand to Operate in Germany

An interview with historian Josef Foschepoth published in the online edition of the Süddeutsche Zeitung makes clear that US intelligence agencies have a free hand to do what they like in Germany, with the knowledge and blessing of the federal government.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-nsa-gi ... ny/5342446

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:41 pm
by DEATH ROW JOE
So birtherplanet got duped again? What a surprise.

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:58 pm
by Stoner
Right, because our government is the only one that lies. :lol:

You have to be severely dense to not realize that all of these indignant pricks, especially Latin America, are only condemning this shit for show and they're STILL slurping on the United States' dick behind closed doors.



Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:43 pm
by brotherplanet
Stoner wrote::lol:

Edward Snowden tells Der Spiegel NSA is 'in bed with the Germans'
Interview carried out before NSA whistleblower fled to Hong Kong appears to contradict Merkel's public surprise at snooping


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... sa-germans

And that makes all of this even better! All the fuckers should squirm.

But don't think this makes it okay. If your neighbor helps you rob another neighbor it doesn't somehow make you innocent.

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:46 pm
by Luminiferous
The only time America is the "good guys" is when we send our soldiers to do some other countries dirty work and die doing it and when we send the most aid to the country hit by a natural disaster...

When it's all done then we're back to be the bad guys... No matter who's in the White house..

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:55 pm
by DEATH ROW JOE
birtherplanet wrote: And that makes all of this even better! All the fuckers should squirm.

But don't think this makes it okay. If your neighbor helps you rob another neighbor it doesn't somehow make you innocent.
Innocent? Obama is following a law passed by Congress, you fucking dunce. He hasn't done anything wrong.

The article stoner posted proves your article is crap and proves, once again, that you are an imbecile.

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:09 am
by Chieftan44
DEATH ROW JOE wrote:
birtherplanet wrote: And that makes all of this even better! All the fuckers should squirm.

But don't think this makes it okay. If your neighbor helps you rob another neighbor it doesn't somehow make you innocent.
Innocent? Obama is following a law passed by Congress, you fucking dunce. He hasn't done anything wrong. The article stoner posted proves your article is crap and proves, once again, that you are an imbecile.
Congress overhelmingly approved the use of force against Iraq.

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:15 pm
by DEATH ROW JOE
Chieftan44 wrote: Congress overhelmingly approved the use of force against Iraq.
Are you expecting someone to finish your post for you?

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:24 pm
by SebastianLeeDanzig
Merkel feigning ignorance is obviously absolute horse shit meant to save the upcoming election here. However, respective laws passed by your Congress don't apply to EU citizens, so any outrage, fake or genuine, is definitely appropriate.

Re: Thank you Obama for making us the Bad Guys!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:36 pm
by brotherplanet
Chieftan44 wrote:
DEATH ROW JOE wrote:
birtherplanet wrote: And that makes all of this even better! All the fuckers should squirm.

But don't think this makes it okay. If your neighbor helps you rob another neighbor it doesn't somehow make you innocent.
Innocent? Obama is following a law passed by Congress, you fucking dunce. He hasn't done anything wrong. The article stoner posted proves your article is crap and proves, once again, that you are an imbecile.
Congress overhelmingly approved the use of force against Iraq.

Exactly!


And, the other point he misses is the fact that Presidents can actually speak out against policies they disagree with.

Obama is a pretty quiet fellow unless it involves saying okay to spying on Americans (sorry, I meant EVERYONE) , or using drones. He's been pretty good at giving that stuff his A-OKAY!