Rattrules, your opinion please?

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

This is the transcript of the speech that Barack Obama gave last year regarding the Newtown School Massacre. I have highlighted his repeated lengthy mentions of God, Religion and Faith and ask you how you feel about a man that you have promoted, worshipped and practically fellated on this website. A man who apparently is using hollow words and false idols to promote his agenda to a vulnerable and grieving nation. Upon reading this you have to be absolutely sick that a CHRISTnut like Barack Obama would so obviously pander to the sheeple of the United States. Who would support and elect such a charlatan, promoting his ideas on beliefs that YOU KNOW ARE COMPLETELY FALSE AND MISLEADING. Sickening, right?



OBAMA: Thank you.

Thank you, Governor. To all the families, first responders, to the community of Newtown, clergy, guests, scripture tells us, “Do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, inwardly, we are being renewed day by day.

“For light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all, so we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

“For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven not built by human hands.”

We gather here in memory of 20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults. They lost their lives in a school that could have been any school in a quiet town full of good and decent people that could be any town in America.

Here in Newtown, I come to offer the love and prayers of a nation. I am very mindful that mere words cannot match the depths of your sorrow, nor can they heal your wounded hearts.

I can only hope it helps for you to know that you’re not alone in your grief, that our world, too, has been torn apart, that all across this land of ours, we have wept with you. We’ve pulled our children tight.

And you must know that whatever measure of comfort we can provide, we will provide. Whatever portion of sadness that we can share with you to ease this heavy load, we will gladly bear it. Newtown, you are not alone.

As these difficult days have unfolded, you’ve also inspired us with stories of strength and resolve and sacrifice. We know that when danger arrived in the halls of Sandy Hook Elementary, the school’s staff did not flinch. They did not hesitate.

Dawn Hochsprung and Mary Sherlach, Vicki Soto, Lauren Rousseau, Rachel D’Avino and Anne Marie Murphy, they responded as we all hope we might respond in such terrifying circumstances, with courage and with love, giving their lives to protect the children in their care.

We know that there were other teachers who barricaded themselves inside classrooms and kept steady through it all and reassured their students by saying, “Wait for the good guys, they are coming. Show me your smile.”

And we know that good guys came, the first responders who raced to the scene helping to guide those in harm’s way to safety and comfort those in need, holding at bay their own shock and their own trauma, because they had a job to do and others needed them more.

And then there were the scenes of the schoolchildren helping one another, holding each other, dutifully following instructions in the way that young children sometimes do, one child even trying to encourage a grownup by saying, “I know karate, so it’s OK; I’ll lead the way out.”

As a community, you’ve inspired us, Newtown. In the face of indescribable violence, in the face of unconscionable evil, you’ve looked out for each other. You’ve cared for one another. And you’ve loved one another. This is how Newtown will be remembered, and with time and God’s grace, that love will see you through.

But we as a nation, we are left with some hard questions. You know, someone once described the joy and anxiety of parenthood as the equivalent of having your heart outside of your body all the time, walking around.

With their very first cry, this most precious, vital part of ourselves, our child, is suddenly exposed to the world, to possible mishap or malice, and every parent knows there’s nothing we will not do to shield our children from harm. And yet we also know that with that child’s very first step and each step after that, they are separating from us, that we won’t -- that we can’t always be there for them.

They will suffer sickness and setbacks and broken hearts and disappointments, and we learn that our most important job is to give them what they need to become self-reliant and capable and resilient, ready to face the world without fear. And we know we can’t do this by ourselves.

It comes as a shock at a certain point where you realize no matter how much you love these kids, you can’t do it by yourself, that this job of keeping our children safe and teaching them well is something we can only do together, with the help of friends and neighbors, the help of a community and the help of a nation.

And in that way we come to realize that we bear responsibility for every child, because we’re counting on everybody else to help look after ours, that we’re all parents, that they are all our children.

This is our first task, caring for our children. It’s our first job. If we don’t get that right, we don’t get anything right. That’s how, as a society, we will be judged.

And by that measure, can we truly say, as a nation, that we’re meeting our obligations?

Can we honestly say that we’re doing enough to keep our children, all of them, safe from harm?

Can we claim, as a nation, that we’re all together there, letting them know they are loved and teaching them to love in return?

Can we say that we’re truly doing enough to give all the children of this country the chance they deserve to live out their lives in happiness and with purpose?

I’ve been reflecting on this the last few days, and if we’re honest with ourselves, the answer’s no. We’re not doing enough. And we will have to change. Since I’ve been president, this is the fourth time we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings, fourth time we’ve hugged survivors, the fourth time we’ve consoled the families of victims.

And in between, there have been an endless series of deadly shootings across the country, almost daily reports of victims, many of them children, in small towns and in big cities all across America, victims whose -- much of the time their only fault was being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.

We will be told that the causes of such violence are complex, and that is true. No single law, no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society, but that can’t be an excuse for inaction. Surely we can do better than this.

If there’s even one step we can take to save another child or another parent or another town from the grief that’s visited Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek and Newtown and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that, then surely we have an obligation to try.

In the coming weeks, I’ll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens, from law enforcement, to mental health professionals, to parents and educators, in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this, because what choice do we have? We can’t accept events like this as routine.

Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard?

Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?

You know, all the world’s religions, so many of them represented here today, start with a simple question.

Why are we here? What gives our life meaning? What gives our acts purpose?

We know our time on this Earth is fleeting. We know that we will each have our share of pleasure and pain, that even after we chase after some earthly goal, whether it’s wealth or power or fame or just simple comfort, we will, in some fashion, fall short of what we had hoped. We know that, no matter how good our intentions, we’ll all stumble sometimes in some way.

We’ll make mistakes, we’ll experience hardships and even when we’re trying to do the right thing, we know that much of our time will be spent groping through the darkness, so often unable to discern God’s heavenly plans.

There’s only one thing we can be sure of, and that is the love that we have for our children, for our families, for each other. The warmth of a small child’s embrace, that is true.

The memories we have of them, the joy that they bring, the wonder we see through their eyes, that fierce and boundless love we feel for them, a love that takes us out of ourselves and binds us to something larger, we know that’s what matters.

We know we’re always doing right when we’re taking care of them, when we’re teaching them well, when we’re showing acts of kindness. We don’t go wrong when we do that.

That’s what we can be sure of, and that’s what you, the people of Newtown, have reminded us. That’s how you’ve inspired us. You remind us what matters. And that’s what should drive us forward in everything we do for as long as God sees fit to keep us on this Earth.

“Let the little children come to me,” Jesus said, “and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”

Charlotte, Daniel, Olivia, Josephine, Ana, Dylan, Madeline, Catherine, Chase, Jesse, James, Grace, Emilie, Jack, Noah, Caroline, Jessica, Benjamin, Avielle, Allison, God has called them all home.

For those of us who remain, let us find the strength to carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. May God bless and keep those we’ve lost in His heavenly place. May He grace those we still have with His holy comfort, and may He bless and watch over this community and the United States of America.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Do we have an eternal house in heaven built by God? Are his plans not discernable? You must think Obama is pathetic liar for even speaking such nonsense, right?

[Landshark2000]

Oh what a dilemma ...

[Hollywood's Burning]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

[RATTdrools]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America. He might as well be quoting Horus, Ra, or Mithras! YOU are the retarded Imbecile for somehow believing middle eastern scripture has anymore truth than any other scripture when there is ZERO evidence to support that and not a SINGLE historical character saw an earthly Jesus!

Jesus is Judeo Christian MYTH!!

[Hollywood's Burning]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America. He might as well be quoting Horus, Ra, or Mithras! YOU are the retarded Imbecile for somehow believing middle eastern scripture has anymore truth than any other scripture when there is ZERO evidence to support that and not a SINGLE historical character saw an earthly Jesus!

Jesus is Judeo Christian MYTH!!

Same old same old, ignoring the questions asked as always.

Troll, pure and simple. A weak one, at that.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Yeah, I don't see an answer. Rattdrools, are you ashamed of your idol Barack Obama for being a fraud and perpetuating the Judeo Christian MYTH at a time when our country was emotionally vulnerable?

[Luminiferous]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America.

So he doesn't really believe in Jesus and is only used him to get elected and placate the religious folks?

That's a bit dishonest of your president isn't it?

[Nevermind]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America. He might as well be quoting Horus, Ra, or Mithras! YOU are the retarded Imbecile for somehow believing middle eastern scripture has anymore truth than any other scripture when there is ZERO evidence to support that and not a SINGLE historical character saw an earthly Jesus!

Jesus is Judeo Christian MYTH!!

Your response sucks. Please try again.

[Hollywood's Burning]

RATTrules has proved that when he's not cutting and pasting the writing of others, he has nothing to say unless he lies about stuff.

He's also proved that when he DOES cut and paste the writing of others, he's too fucking stupid to assess the context, and winds up getting that wrong too.

[Luminiferous]

RATTrules has proved that when he's not cutting and pasting the writing of others, he has nothing to say unless he lies about stuff.

He's also proved that when he DOES cut and paste the writing of others, he's too fucking stupid to assess the context, and winds up getting that wrong too.

So....... he's a troll.

[Hollywood's Burning]

RATTrules has proved that when he's not cutting and pasting the writing of others, he has nothing to say unless he lies about stuff.

He's also proved that when he DOES cut and paste the writing of others, he's too fucking stupid to assess the context, and winds up getting that wrong too.

So....... he's a troll.

Or incredibly stupid.

[Rainbow Bright]

RATTrules has proved that when he's not cutting and pasting the writing of others, he has nothing to say unless he lies about stuff.

He's also proved that when he DOES cut and paste the writing of others, he's too fucking stupid to assess the context, and winds up getting that wrong too.

So....... he's a troll.

Or incredibly stupid.

Well, he IS a Ratt fan...

[HeavyMetalZombie666]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America. He might as well be quoting Horus, Ra, or Mithras! YOU are the retarded Imbecile for somehow believing middle eastern scripture has anymore truth than any other scripture when there is ZERO evidence to support that and not a SINGLE historical character saw an earthly Jesus!

Jesus is Judeo Christian MYTH!!

Do you believe in any deity or higher power without focusing on any organized religion?

[RATTdrools]

Yeah, I don't see an answer. Rattdrools, are you ashamed of your idol Barack Obama for being a fraud and perpetuating the Judeo Christian MYTH at a time when our country was emotionally vulnerable?

That's the way the American political system is you fucking morons! Not just America but basically to get elected in ANY western nation you still have to believe in a sky fairy.

At least Obama is the 1st president who said there are "non-believers" in America. Bill Maher said he thinks Obama is a secular humanist like his mother was. So Obama is MUCH better for people who know Jesus is bullshit than any other previous president!

[RATTdrools]

RATTrules has proved that when he's not cutting and pasting the writing of others, he has nothing to say unless he lies about stuff.

He's also proved that when he DOES cut and paste the writing of others, he's too fucking stupid to assess the context, and winds up getting that wrong too.

NONSENSE you fucking RETARD! All you do is cut and paste from the bible i.e. Judeo Christian MYTH!

You are such an ignorant naive fucking MORON that you think hundreds of gods can be fabricated but somehow Jesus can't! LMAO! EVERYTHING about Jesus is a scam! Not a SINGLE historical figure ever saw an earthly Jesus! Citing historical characters who NEVER saw a historical Jesus and didn't even live when the alleged Jesus did just shows how PATHETIC your "sources" are!

THOUSANDS of churches keep closing every year in America and Europe and more people every day realize the BIBLE IS BULLSHIT!!

JESUS IS JUDEO CHRISTIAN MYTH!!

[RATTdrools]

This will have confused the shit out of Ratty. He'll be scouring the fuck-head websites to discover what he should think about all of this.

And then he will cut and paste and claim it as his own writing, of course.

No you fucking moron it just shows you need to have faith in a sky fairy to get elected in America. He might as well be quoting Horus, Ra, or Mithras! YOU are the retarded Imbecile for somehow believing middle eastern scripture has anymore truth than any other scripture when there is ZERO evidence to support that and not a SINGLE historical character saw an earthly Jesus!

Jesus is Judeo Christian MYTH!!

Do you believe in any deity or higher power without focusing on any organized religion?

No I don't. I am an evidenced based person and the evidence isn't there that a sky fairy exists regardless of which religion you choose.

I use the scientific method we all learned in school.

[Hollywood's Burning]

No I don't. I am an evidenced based person and the evidence isn't there that a sky fairy exists regardless of which religion you choose.

I use the scientific method we all learned in school.

Then why do you lie so much and so frequently, and fabricate "evidence" to back up your claims?

[RATTdrools]

HB, you incredible naive dumbfuck YOU are the one who is believing fabricated stories and lies i.e. The bible! The bible is nothing but allegorical FICTION! Learn what OBJECTIVE means! Not a SINGLE historical character ever saw an earthly Jesus, Moses, Noah, Adam&Eve, etc. "The bible says so" is NOT evidence you fucking MORON!

The MYTH of the Historical Jesus


Despite the widespread belief in Jesus the fact remains that there is no historical Jesus. In order to understand what is meant by an "historical Jesus," consider King Midas in Greek mythology. The story that King Midas turned everything he touched into gold is clearly nonsense, yet despite this we know that there was a real King Midas. Archaeologists have excavated his tomb and found his skeletal remains. The Greeks who told the story of Midas and his golden touch clearly intended people to identify him with the real Midas. So although the story of the golden touch is fictional, the story is about a person whose existence is known as a fact--the "historical Midas." In the case of Jesus, however, there is no single person whose existence is known as a fact and who is also intended to be the subject of the Jesus stories, i.e. there is no historical Jesus. 

When confronted by a Christian missionary, one should immediately point out that . When missionaries argue they usually appeal to emotions rather than to reason and they will attempt to make you feel embarrassed about denying the historicity of Jesus. The usual response is something like "Isn't denying the existence of Jesus just as silly as denying the existence of Julius Caesar or Queen Elizabeth?" A popular variation of this response used especially against Jews is "Isn't denying the existence of Jesus like denying the Holocaust?" One should then point out that there are ample historical sources confirming the existence of Julius Caesar, Queen Elizabeth or whoever else is named, while there is no corresponding evidence for Jesus. 






http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr ... jesus.html

[Hollywood's Burning]

HB, you incredible naive dumbfuck YOU are the one who is believing fabricated stories and lies i.e. The bible! The bible is nothing but allegorical FICTION! Learn what OBJECTIVE means! Not a SINGLE historical character ever saw an earthly Jesus, Moses, Noah, Adam&Eve, etc. "The bible says so" is NOT evidence you fucking MORON!

The MYTH of the Historical Jesus


Despite the widespread belief in Jesus the fact remains that there is no historical Jesus. In order to understand what is meant by an "historical Jesus," consider King Midas in Greek mythology. The story that King Midas turned everything he touched into gold is clearly nonsense, yet despite this we know that there was a real King Midas. Archaeologists have excavated his tomb and found his skeletal remains. The Greeks who told the story of Midas and his golden touch clearly intended people to identify him with the real Midas. So although the story of the golden touch is fictional, the story is about a person whose existence is known as a fact--the "historical Midas." In the case of Jesus, however, there is no single person whose existence is known as a fact and who is also intended to be the subject of the Jesus stories, i.e. there is no historical Jesus. 

When confronted by a Christian missionary, one should immediately point out that . When missionaries argue they usually appeal to emotions rather than to reason and they will attempt to make you feel embarrassed about denying the historicity of Jesus. The usual response is something like "Isn't denying the existence of Jesus just as silly as denying the existence of Julius Caesar or Queen Elizabeth?" A popular variation of this response used especially against Jews is "Isn't denying the existence of Jesus like denying the Holocaust?" One should then point out that there are ample historical sources confirming the existence of Julius Caesar, Queen Elizabeth or whoever else is named, while there is no corresponding evidence for Jesus. 






http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr ... jesus.html

I don't know how to make this any clearer for you Rattrules - especially since I've said so in response to your posts many times: I don't believe in the Bible or God. I am an atheist. That said, I genuinely believe you are too fucking stupid to understand that.

You are a dribbling inbred who has yet to learn that hysterical shouting makes you look like a imbecile.

And why won't you answer the question about your blatant lies? You lie a lot dude - and you have never yet responded on that score.

[RATTdrools]

Hollywood Retard, I am NOT lying, YOU are you fucking inbred moron! You are too fucking stupid to realize scripture is NOT evidence! I started another thread that CLEARLY shows Jesus is a myth that even clergy cannot refute!

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=308679

[Hollywood's Burning]

Hollywood Retard, I am NOT lying, YOU are you fucking inbred moron! You are too fucking stupid to realize scripture is NOT evidence! I started another thread that CLEARLY shows Jesus is a myth that even clergy cannot refute!

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=308679

I never claimed scripture is evidence, ya dummy. I am an atheist - I don't believe that stuff is real. You, however, are a liar.

Why don't you address the question about your blatant lies? You've always avoided addressing that one. Is it because you got royally busted and have no comeback apart from repeating the same nonsense over and over again?

[Hollywood's Burning]

YOU are you fucking inbred moron!

You couldn't make it up.

Well, actually, you DO make things up.

Often.