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Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:35 pm
by BlackCrypt
Rudy may be on to something here.
Barry said W. was “unpatriotic” for adding trillions to the national debt. Barack Obama added the same amount of debt in less than three years.
O. is always apologizing for the USA.
Barack attended the church of Reverend Wright, who, after the attacks of 9/11 said "America's chickens are coming home to roost"
Obama hung out with known terrorist around his neighborhood.
His wife was never proud of America until her hubby started getting some recognition.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:34 am
by SeminiferousButtNoid
On to something what? It's an idiotic argument to say the President is anti-American because he helps enact policies that wrong. This is a neocon tactic: a liberal commits to a policy they disagree with, and then the neocons try to divine some kind of secret motivation of which there is no evidence. It's the same bullshit when liberals try to accuse conservatives of being racist because they want tax cuts. It's fucking asinine.
Plus, I can write 3,000 words on how Rudy Giuliani's reactionary and authoritarian views on war, civil liberties, and torture are immoral and wrong all fucking day. But saying he's "anti-American" or acts as some kind of insidious force trying to destroy the Republic would be wrong. He thinks what he advocates for is correct, even though it's wrong.
Accusing someone of being "Un-American" is pure McCarthyism, regardless of whether you disagree with them or not.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:46 am
by Turner Coates
BlackCrypt wrote:
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Slow down there, pardner.
Why don't ya start over and ask to see his birth certificate?
You know ya wants to.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:31 pm
by Danzig in the Dark
BlackCrypt wrote:Rudy may be on to something here.
Barry said W. was “unpatriotic” for adding trillions to the national debt. Barack Obama added the same amount of debt in less than three years.
O. is always apologizing for the USA.
Barack attended the church of Reverend Wright, who, after the attacks of 9/11 said "America's chickens are coming home to roost"
Obama hung out with known terrorist around his neighborhood.
His wife was never proud of America until her hubby started getting some recognition.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:29 am
by SebastianLeeDanzig
Barack and America sitting in a tree...
Aren't you embarrassed your political culture is stuck on playground song level? As long as people like you are around I'm amazed he's doing anything besides apologizing for the USA.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:28 pm
by Gazpacho
SeminiferousButtNoid wrote: I can write 3,000 words on how Rudy Giuliani's reactionary and authoritarian views on war, civil liberties, and torture are immoral and wrong.
Please don't
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:09 pm
by SeminiferousButtNoid
Gazpacho wrote:SeminiferousButtNoid wrote: I can write 3,000 words on how Rudy Giuliani's reactionary and authoritarian views on war, civil liberties, and torture are immoral and wrong.
Please don't
Gazpacho, I'm really fucking sorry.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:32 am
by tin00can
SebastianLeeDanzig wrote:Barack and America sitting in a tree...
Aren't you embarrassed your political culture is stuck on playground song level? As long as people like you are around I'm amazed he's doing anything besides apologizing for the USA.
American politics has turned in a scene from King of the Hill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWmCXihec4
It's six fucking years into Obama's presidency and we still have a notable portion of America that thinks he was born in Kenya, and they talk about "anti-colonialism" like it's a real thing (and fuck you with a rusty dildo, Dinesh, for introducing that term to these slack-jawed morons). Now Giuliani is popping back up like the last working mole on a decrepit whack-a-mole game and questioning somebody else's patriotism while still managing to mention that he was in New York during 9/11 and therefore he owns it. Fuck Rudy and his retarded jingoism. I hope that ISIS gets shut down but I wouldn't mind one bit if before they did, they somehow managed to take out Rudy. That would be sweet, delectable schadenfreude for me.
Re: Does Obama really love America?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:57 am
by SebastianLeeDanzig
http://www.juancole.com/2015/02/giulian ... ilies.html
Giuliani should stop and consider that love for America is not just a statement of the sort, he says, Reagan and Clinton made. It is also honoring the central document of Americanness, the Constitution and its Bill of Rights. Giuliani is contemptuous of the fourth and eighth amendments and demonstrated it practically in the way he ran New York City.
That Obama is president and Giuliani is not clearly sticks in the latter’s craw. It is shameful that he should question Obama’s love of country. But surely he is just compensating in public for his own family’s shady background and his own mistakes such as violating the guarantee against unreasonable search, and promoting crooks such as Bernie Kerik. He should realize that he can’t convince people he loves America, after all his undermining of the US constitution, by denigrating the patriotism of the president of the United States.