Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[JakeYonkel]

Kill wrote that, not me.

I think Vazquez can win 12-14. He's got great stuff, and he's not pitching ALL of his games against the Red Sox, Rays, and Blue Jays lineups. He'll do all right.

[Machado]

Kill wrote that, not me.

I think Vazquez can win 12-14. He's got great stuff, and he's not pitching ALL of his games against the Red Sox, Rays, and Blue Jays lineups. He'll do all right.

My mistake!

The big question is, will Hughes start the season in the pen or will Joba
start the season in the pen?

C.C.
A.J.
Andy
Javier
Joba or Phil

Joba does not have an innings limit beginning this season
If Hughes is once again in the pen, when will the Yankees finally stretch him out enough to where he no longer has a cap on his innings?

For my money, I want Hughes in the pen. It's time for Joba to begin the season as a starter and give him every opportunity to earn the 5th starter job for 2010.

[JakeYonkel]

Fuck Joba as a starter. Hughes can probably pitch 140 innings or so, he's got better starter stuff. Throw Joba in as your 8th inning guy, where he exceled before. Hughes was great, yes, but has higher upside as a starter.

[Machado]

Fuck Joba as a starter. Hughes can probably pitch 140 innings or so, he's got better starter stuff. Throw Joba in as your 8th inning guy, where he exceled before. Hughes was great, yes, but has higher upside as a starter.

This debate will continue forever.

I know the Yankees are very high on Robertson. Not sure if he is ready for the 8th inning. Coming out of ST, I would be confident in him as the 7th inning pitcher.
Marte could also be a huge help, if he can be the pitcher he was in the playoffs/world series. If this shoulder trouble from '09 is indeed a thing of the past, I can see him doing very well out of the pen.

[killeverything]

Fuck Joba as a starter. Hughes can probably pitch 140 innings or so, he's got better starter stuff. Throw Joba in as your 8th inning guy, where he exceled before. Hughes was great, yes, but has higher upside as a starter.

This debate will continue forever.

I know the Yankees are very high on Robertson. Not sure if he is ready for the 8th inning. Coming out of ST, I would be confident in him as the 7th inning pitcher.
Marte could also be a huge help, if he can be the pitcher he was in the playoffs/world series. If this shoulder trouble from '09 is indeed a thing of the past, I can see him doing very well out of the pen.

Keep Joba in the Pen. Hughes could become the next Cy winner. Joba never will. He's already starting to slip.

I'm happy for Jason Bay. He wanted a big payday, and got one. He crawled back to Boston, when he and his agent saw there wasn't the market they wanted.

I feel sorry for NYM. Can you imagine that defense there? How's he gonna look in a no-DH league in the final years of that contract.

Minyana still has a job though. Ricciardi doesn't, but Minyana does.

[Machado]

If Andy had retired after '09, do you think
both Hughes and Joba will be the 4th and 5th starter?
I want to say yes, but who the heck knows.
Joba has been back n forth from the pen to the starting slot so often, I can't remember where he was to finish the '09 season.

[killeverything]

If Andy had retired after '09, do you think
both Hughes and Joba will be the 4th and 5th starter?
I want to say yes, but who the heck knows.
Joba has been back n forth from the pen to the starting slot so often, I can't remember where he was to finish the '09 season.

'09 he was the bridge to Rivera and a damn good one.

He just doesn't have the stuff to be an effective starter. That's why all he does is head-hunt now. The League has figured him out.

Hughes OTOH, if maturation continues. Felix Hernandez will have to give up his "King" title. The guy's talent is unbelieveable.

[Machado]

If Andy had retired after '09, do you think
both Hughes and Joba will be the 4th and 5th starter?
I want to say yes, but who the heck knows.
Joba has been back n forth from the pen to the starting slot so often, I can't remember where he was to finish the '09 season.

'09 he was the bridge to Rivera and a damn good one.

He just doesn't have the stuff to be an effective starter. That's why all he does is head-hunt now. The League has figured him out.

Hughes OTOH, if maturation continues. Felix Hernandez will have to give up his "King" title. The guy's talent is unbelieveable.

Be honest-You asked Santa for a Hughes Jersey for
x-mas

[Punk]

Jason Bay to the Mets

[JakeYonkel]

Reported earlier and basically ignored. I feel bad for Met fans.

[killeverything]

If Andy had retired after '09, do you think
both Hughes and Joba will be the 4th and 5th starter?
I want to say yes, but who the heck knows.
Joba has been back n forth from the pen to the starting slot so often, I can't remember where he was to finish the '09 season.

'09 he was the bridge to Rivera and a damn good one.

He just doesn't have the stuff to be an effective starter. That's why all he does is head-hunt now. The League has figured him out.

Hughes OTOH, if maturation continues. Felix Hernandez will have to give up his "King" title. The guy's talent is unbelieveable.

Be honest-You asked Santa for a Hughes Jersey for
x-mas

I think the guy has the potential to be a one of kind, a once in a generation type of pitcher. I've always thought that. He just hasn't been able to put it altogether. I like seeing players like that develop, even if they're filthy Yankees.

Reported earlier and basically ignored. I feel bad for Met fans.

He can still hit. He was the best hitting OF in the AL last season. Four years down the road though, in a league with no DH. It doesn't matter if NL pitchers don't throw too many breaking balls....especially outside ( his weakness ), he'll be a full-time DH roaming that OF.

[Punk]

Reported earlier and basically ignored. I feel bad for Met fans.

Ahh, I didn't see that.

[Machado]

I hope he takes the field when the angels face the Yankees. Hit the ball towards him and take an extra base.

NARITA, Japan -- World Series MVP Hideki Matsui is confident he can make a return to the outfield next season when he suits up for the Los Angeles Angels.

Matsui returned to Japan on Wednesday, two weeks after reaching agreement on a $6 million, one-year contract with the Angels.



Slowed by surgically repaired knees, the 35-year-old Matsui is likely to replace Vladimir Guerrero as Los Angeles' primary designated hitter but said he still wants to play outfield.

"I'd like to prove I can play defense at spring training," Matsui said during a news conference. "It will be difficult to play defense every day like in the past, but I'd like to reach the point where I'm able to play defense once every few games."

Matsui hit .274 with 28 homers and 90 RBIs last season as a designated hitter for the New York Yankees. He was selected World Series MVP despite starting only three of the six games against Philadelphia, going 8 for 13 (.615) with three homers and eight RBIs and tying a Series record by driving in six runs in Game 6.

Matsui said he heads to the Angels with a mixture of excitement and unease.

"I'm somewhat anxious but there's a lot to look forward to," Matsui said. "I want to be able to use to the fullest all that I've worked on until now."

[JakeYonkel]

Scioscia's not dumb. After what happened to Vlad when he put him in the field for a game, Matsui won't see the outfield at all next year. All DHs say the same thing, they all wanna play the field, blah blah blah.

He's proven he can be successful while only hitting every few innings. He's a DH only.

[Machado]

Scioscia's not dumb. After what happened to Vlad when he put him in the field for a game, Matsui won't see the outfield at all next year. All DHs say the same thing, they all wanna play the field, blah blah blah.

He's proven he can be successful while only hitting every few innings. He's a DH only.

I know. I know. No chance matsui plays the OF during the season, even if just for 1 inning.
If he wants to stay healthy for 162 games, he has to stay off his knees.
Will be odd seeing him knock in runs wearing another uniform

[killeverything]

Scioscia's not dumb. After what happened to Vlad when he put him in the field for a game, Matsui won't see the outfield at all next year. All DHs say the same thing, they all wanna play the field, blah blah blah.

He's proven he can be successful while only hitting every few innings. He's a DH only.

I know. I know. No chance matsui plays the OF during the season, even if just for 1 inning.
If he wants to stay healthy for 162 games, he has to stay off his knees.
Will be odd seeing him knock in runs wearing another uniform

Fuck that shit. I wanted him to go to the NL.

That way the ONE fucking player, that has REPEATEDLY killed the Mighty Red Sox won't set foot in Fenway again.



Kinda like Manny in LA for you MFY fans.

[Machado]

Scioscia's not dumb. After what happened to Vlad when he put him in the field for a game, Matsui won't see the outfield at all next year. All DHs say the same thing, they all wanna play the field, blah blah blah.

He's proven he can be successful while only hitting every few innings. He's a DH only.

I know. I know. No chance matsui plays the OF during the season, even if just for 1 inning.
If he wants to stay healthy for 162 games, he has to stay off his knees.
Will be odd seeing him knock in runs wearing another uniform

Fuck that shit. I wanted him to go to the NL.

That way the ONE fucking player, that has REPEATEDLY killed the Mighty Red Sox won't set foot in Fenway again.



Kinda like Manny in LA for you MFY fans.

Given the choice, I was hoping Matsui would either resign, retire or go to the NL.
Now we have to face him however many times in 2010. Maybe with some luck he will have his knees drained prior to every Yankee series.

[killeverything]

John Dewan's Stat Of The Week.

December 30, 2009

I, Aaron Harang, resolve to get more run support in 2010.

Harang received the worst run support in baseball last year as the Reds only scored an average of 3.2 runs per nine innings while he was on the mound. Basically, the Reds’ offense hit opposing starters like they were facing Cliff Lee or CC Sabathia every time out.

Here’s the list of pitchers who received the lowest run support in 2009:

Lowest Run Support (minimum 162 IP)
RSp = Run Support RA = Runs Allowed

Aaron Harang Reds IP162.3 RSp3.22 RA4.55
Barry Zito Giants IP192.0 RSp3.38 RA4.17
Matt Garza Rays IP203.0 RSp3.68 RA4.12
Clayton Kershaw Dodgers IP171.0 RSp3.68 RA2.89
Jonathan Sanchez Giants IP163.3 RSp3.69 RA4.52

Harang’s record was 6-14, thanks in large part to an offense featuring Willy Taveras, Jerry Hairston, Paul Janish, and Alex Gonzalez. With persistent rumors about a trade to a contending team, Harang's resolution is likely to come true in 2010. But even if he stays with the Reds, his run support should improve anyway. While the Reds' team scoring rate of 4.13 runs per nine innings is poor, it is still well above the 3.22 runs they averaged for Harang.

Barry Zito pitched well for the Giants despite his 10-13 record. The Giants were 18-15 overall in Zito's starts, and the former Cy Young Award winner allowed just 4.17 runs per nine innings. Matt Garza (8-12 record) received the lowest run support in the American League at just under 3.7 runs per nine innings despite pitching for one of the league’s stronger offenses.


This could lead to interesting discussions. One of the many fucking reasons why Wins and Losses is such a terrible way to judge a pitcher.

With Bill James' advent of DiPS ( Defense Independent Pitching Stats ) and it's offspring FiP ( Fielding Independent Pitching ). We can truly guage how good a pitcher is, without it being in his teamate's hands.

Take away the RS, and Joba and Aaron Small ( remember him ) really aren't that good. Give some RSp and Pedro 2002 ( Fuck you Zito, he won that Cy ) and Zach Greinke would have been a lot better in W/L.

[johnk5150]

Mutherfucker Jim Hendry gives Marlon Byrd his first contract longer than a year. What a dick.

[killeverything]

Mutherfucker Jim Hendry gives Marlon Byrd his first contract longer than a year. What a dick.

What the fuck is it about Jim Hendry and Omar Minyana?

It's almost like they enjoy fucking their teams. Like sadisticism against their respective fan bases.

[Machado]

From ESPN.COM:

Free-agent outfielder Jason Bay has passed his physical exam and will be introduced as the newest New York Met on Tuesday at Citi Field, the team announced Monday.

Bay, 31, reached agreement with the Mets last week on a reported four-year, $66 million contract. The deal includes a vesting option that could increase Bay's overall payout to more than $80 million over five years.

[JakeYonkel]

Has anybody heard if Jason Bay signed with the Mets or not?

[killeverything]

Has anybody heard if Jason Bay signed with the Mets or not?

They're holding the press conference to announce his signing tommorrow at Citifield, according to sources.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Bay. He was great for the team and apparently liked in the clubhouse, but this deal is horrible for the Mets.

Aside from being a nice guy, he has no advantage or positives being in the line-up. Bad defender-big left field, signs of a upcoming shoulder issue-league with no DH, hits for power with a low BAA-big stadium.

This should be the final nail in the coffin for Minyana.......but it won't be.




Minyana is a lot like cockroaches and Bud Selig. The only things that would survive a nuclear war.

[Facedown]

Has anybody heard if Jason Bay signed with the Mets or not?

[Facedown]

Red Sox reach tentative agreement with Adrian Beltre.
1yr/10mil with player option for 2011.

[killeverything]

Red Sox reach tentative agreement with Adrian Beltre.
1yr/10mil with player option for 2011.

Next to Evan Longoria, he's the best 3B in the game. Counting on bounce back season from a guy with a .302OBP is retarded. Thank God for one year contracts.

[Machado]

Ex Yankee cult hero Shelley Duncan
signed with the indians

[killeverything]

Ex Yankee cult hero Shelley Duncan
signed with the indians

He's in his 30s. The dude can hit with power, but it cracked me up seeing him in the Minor League All Star game. Wait Minor League All Star? What the fuck? Can't you not be considered when your past 29?

[JakeYonkel]

Red Sox reach tentative agreement with Adrian Beltre.
1yr/10mil with player option for 2011.

Next to Evan Longoria, he's the best 3B in the game. Counting on bounce back season from a guy with a .302OBP is retarded. Thank God for one year contracts.

Heh.

Clearly the Sox value defense a ton, insofar as they're willing to probably eat 75% of Lowell's contract and now pay Beltre $9M. Lowell of course being the better offensive player but lesser defensive player at this point.

This has gotta push Boston over the luxury tax threshhold, too. After adding Beltre and Lackey the payroll's getting up there. Not that I care, I would just like to see them in the same ballpark as the Yankees so they can shut up about it already.

[Machado]

Ex Yankee cult hero Shelley Duncan
signed with the indians

He's in his 30s. The dude can hit with power, but it cracked me up seeing him in the Minor League All Star game. Wait Minor League All Star? What the fuck? Can't you not be considered when your past 29?

I hear ya. Listen, he was not going to get anymore chances with the Yankees. Good for him. Getting a new start somewhere else. I'll be surprised if he's not the opening day OF. 2 kids ahead of him have limited expierience in the majors.

Minor League All Star Game: I know ESPN broadcasts the game, but do I watch? Not at all. What's the point!!!