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It's basically the same deal that Denver would have gotten if they traded Carmelo to the Nets.Tenacious_Dio wrote:It's Deron Wiilliams, but yeah. This is getting crazy.johnk5150 wrote:Darren Williams was just traded to the Nets. Wow.
"I feel Deron Williams is the best point guard in the NBA," Nets general manager Billy King said in officially announcing the blockbuster deal Wednesday afternoon.
"I spoke with Deron and he's excited about it. He understands where we are and where we want to go. In this league, you win with point guards.
The Jazz were a perennial contender with Williams
Williams is solid, but I will take C Paul, Rondo, Derrik Rose before Williams. Two years ago he was best pg in league, not anymore.Subhuman Yeti wrote:"I feel Deron Williams is the best point guard in the NBA," Nets general manager Billy King said in officially announcing the blockbuster deal Wednesday afternoon.
"I spoke with Deron and he's excited about it. He understands where we are and where we want to go. In this league, you win with point guards.
As if he has any real fucking clue what wins in the NBA.
Team defense and an overall team effort on both ends of the court
win championships, year after year after year.
Ya wanna see the fucking LAKERS trophy case??
The Jazz were a perennial contender with Williams
That's some funny shit
His deal is up after next season. He'll play wherever he wants.yeahbuddy wrote:Have fun in NJ, Yuck!
this season, and all of next season.Tenacious_Dio wrote:His deal is up after next season. He'll play wherever he wants.yeahbuddy wrote:Have fun in NJ, Yuck!
It won't be all of next season if he won't sign an extension. Just like Carmelo. As far as who'll pay him, it wouldn't surprise me to see Orlando make a run at him. But if it's all about the dollars, he'll sign the extension with the Nets.yeahbuddy wrote: this season, and all of next season.
Also, who will have the money to pay what he wants?
Since no one knows what's going to happen with the CBA, this sounds like strictly a rental.Tenacious_Dio wrote:It won't be all of next season if he won't sign an extension. Just like Carmelo. As far as who'll pay him, it wouldn't surprise me to see Orlando make a run at him. But if it's all about the dollars, he'll sign the extension with the Nets.yeahbuddy wrote: this season, and all of next season.
Also, who will have the money to pay what he wants?
Right or wrong, it's widely assumed that max money will be lower under the new CBA. That gives Williams some incentive to get an extension done now. But if he really doesn't want to be a Net/New Yorker/Whatever, it won't matter. Even if that happens, NJ might be able to deal him for something next year.johnk5150 wrote:Since no one knows what's going to happen with the CBA, this sounds like strictly a rental.Tenacious_Dio wrote:It won't be all of next season if he won't sign an extension. Just like Carmelo. As far as who'll pay him, it wouldn't surprise me to see Orlando make a run at him. But if it's all about the dollars, he'll sign the extension with the Nets.yeahbuddy wrote: this season, and all of next season.
Also, who will have the money to pay what he wants?
Kings request extension to decide relocation plans
Posted Feb 24 2011 7:58PM
(AP) -- The Sacramento Kings could be the next NBA franchise on the move.
In the latest and perhaps strongest signal yet that the Kings are considering a new home, the franchise filed a request Thursday for an extension on the NBA's March 1 deadline to inform the league if they intend to seek permission to relocate next season.
The Kings would have the opportunity to discuss their options at the NBA's Board of Governors meetings April 14-15, NBA spokesman Tim Frank confirmed in an e-mail to The Associated Press. The board is considering the Kings' request.
The filing took Sacramento mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson by surprise.
Johnson said he learned of the decision from a Google news alert and was upset he wasn't notified by the Kings first. He wrote on his Twitter account that it's "time to fight for our economic and cultural future. Kings relocation is bigger than a basketball team, and Sac deserves better."
"We're going to fight. The deal is not done," Johnson later said at a news conference in Sacramento. "We know they're looking elsewhere. But it's not a done deal. If it was a done deal, they would have filed on March 1."
Sacramento has struggled for years to build a new arena, which Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof argue is crucial for the franchise's long-term financial viability. Johnson said cash-strapped Sacramento will still work toward building a news sports arena with or without the Kings.
All signs in the past few weeks indicate the Kings are strongly exploring options outside out of California's capital city.
NBA Commissioner David Stern acknowledged during All-Star weekend that the Kings have had talks with officials in Anaheim, Calif., about relocating to its arena. Stern also said the NBA was no longer spending time or money to keep the Kings in Sacramento.
"With respect to Sacramento, all I'll say is that we and they have tried very hard over the years to see whether a new building could be built, and with the collapse of the last attempt, which took a few years and several million dollars on behalf of the league, I said we are not going to spend any more time on that," Stern said. "That is for the Maloofs and the people of Sacramento."
If the Kings moved to Orange County, they would be the third NBA team in the nation's second-biggest metropolitan area, but the potential benefits likely outweigh the drawbacks of moving into the archrival Lakers' backyard and competing with the Clippers.
Anaheim has been searching for an NBA team to share the Honda Center with the NHL's Ducks practically since the former Arrowhead Pond opened in 1993, flirting with the Clippers before owner Donald Sterling chose to move into Staples Center in 1999. Honda Center has been meticulously maintained and improved over the years, with excellent sight lines for basketball and 83 luxury suites, compared to just 30 primitive suites at Arco Arena.
Orange County also has a larger, wealthier population than the Central Valley, with a greater potential for corporate partnerships and higher ticket prices - and the beachside lifestyle could be much more attractive to NBA players. And though neither side has disclosed the particulars of the negotiations, the Maloofs also are likely to benefit from forging a close relationship with Henry Samueli, the billionaire Ducks owner whose management company runs the city-owned Honda Center.
As for Sacramento, relocation fears are nothing new.
With Arco Arena long considered outdated and attendance dwindling for a struggling Kings team was once home to one of the NBA's most fervent fan bases, notorious for their ear-piercing cow bells, cities such as Las Vegas, Kansas City and St. Louis also have been mentioned in the past as possible moves.
But the latest round of relocation chatter has certainly grabbed Sacramento's attention.
Those in Sacramento have stepped out there efforts to push for a new arena. An advertising agency even launched a $150,000 campaign earlier this week to generate awareness on the issue. The Glass Agency's campaign includes billboards, social media and online advertisements.
One billboard on Interstate 5 that already sprouted up in Sacramento has a deflated basketball with a sign that reads: "Game Over. If the Kings leave, we all lose."
The Seattle SuperSonics were the last NBA team to move. They became the Oklahoma City Thunder in 2008, leaving the Pacific Northwest after officials in Seattle didn't upgrade the facility or build a new arena.
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/02/24/king ... ef:nbahpt2
Honda Center has been meticulously maintained and improved over the years, with excellent sight lines for basketball and 83 luxury suites, compared to just 30 primitive suites at Arco Arena.
What are they, in reality just expensive executive caves?30 primitive suites at Arco Arena.
It's Deron Williams, but yeah. This is getting crazy.Tenacious_Dio wrote:It's Deron Wiilliams, but yeah. This is getting crazy.johnk5150 wrote:Darren Williams was just traded to the Nets. Wow.
Skate4RnR wrote:It's Deron Williams, but yeah. This is getting crazy.Tenacious_Dio wrote:It's Deron Wiilliams, but yeah. This is getting crazy.johnk5150 wrote:Darren Williams was just traded to the Nets. Wow.
Duh. Worst shooting performance in nearly 40 years. What a fag.Subhuman Yeti wrote:The Youtube comments about Bosh are good shit.
He's a fucking weasel.
Danzig in the Dark wrote:Roadhead, you are the Jar Jar Binks of Metal Sludge.
Did you see how pissed Cuban was the league allowed New Orleans to make the trade that added to their payroll? That's going to cost him over $100K now that he's 1/29th owner of the team.Tenacious_Dio wrote:The league needs to contract. The Hornets, Grizzlies, Bobcats, and Timberwolves would be a good start. Won't ever happen, though.
He's right. The Hornets are bleeding money, and they send "cash considerations" to Sacramento? Really?johnk5150 wrote:Did you see how pissed Cuban was the league allowed New Orleans to make the trade that added to their payroll? That's going to cost him over $100K now that he's 1/29th owner of the team.Tenacious_Dio wrote:The league needs to contract. The Hornets, Grizzlies, Bobcats, and Timberwolves would be a good start. Won't ever happen, though.
Brutal.THE FUTURE OF PRO BASKETBALL IN CHARLOTTE: D-minus-minus
In the past six months, the Bobcats gave away three of their best four players (Ray Felton, Gerald Wallace and Tyson Chandler) with two first-round picks to show for it: New Orleans' 2011 first-rounder (in the 20s) and Portland's 2011 first-rounder (ditto). That's a catastrophe. Even worse, you can't totally blame them: Nobody goes to their games, nobody watches them, and if they can't compete for a title, what's the sense of competing at all? Why not bottom out and hope for a miracle? Contract these guys. Move them to Vancouver. Move them to Seattle. Do something. The only way this situation could get worse is if Stephen Jackson decides to run into the stands and start inexplicably punching people.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nba
Simmons is a complete Masshole, but I love reading his basketball articles. His trade deadline analysis was really well done yesterday.Tenacious_Dio wrote:Brutal.THE FUTURE OF PRO BASKETBALL IN CHARLOTTE: D-minus-minus
In the past six months, the Bobcats gave away three of their best four players (Ray Felton, Gerald Wallace and Tyson Chandler) with two first-round picks to show for it: New Orleans' 2011 first-rounder (in the 20s) and Portland's 2011 first-rounder (ditto). That's a catastrophe. Even worse, you can't totally blame them: Nobody goes to their games, nobody watches them, and if they can't compete for a title, what's the sense of competing at all? Why not bottom out and hope for a miracle? Contract these guys. Move them to Vancouver. Move them to Seattle. Do something. The only way this situation could get worse is if Stephen Jackson decides to run into the stands and start inexplicably punching people.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nba
No wonder he won the skills competition.aceshigh wrote:
grishnak boss wrote:
But this was LeBron James with the ball in his hands now, staring down the Knicks with the clock bleeding away, the Knicks up one, thousands of loud, rambunctious Knicks fans standing among the 19,702 inside American
“He got a good look at it,” Heat coach Erik Spoelstra would say.
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Danzig in the Dark wrote:Roadhead, you are the Jar Jar Binks of Metal Sludge.
It seems they've gotten one of the best records in the league by beating crap teams.
johnk5150 wrote:grishnak boss wrote:
But this was LeBron James with the ball in his hands now, staring down the Knicks with the clock bleeding away, the Knicks up one, thousands of loud, rambunctious Knicks fans standing among the 19,702 inside American
“He got a good look at it,” Heat coach Erik Spoelstra would say.
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For his skill set, he really needs to learn how to finish if he's going to be truly great.
Heat part with Arroyo, clearing spot for Bibby
Posted Mar 1 2011 9:25PM
MIAMI (AP) -- LeBron James spoke with Mike Bibby after a game last week, and the NBA's two-time reigning MVP is keeping the exact details of that chat private.
This much is known: It was a recruiting pitch.
"I gave him the eye," James said. "And I guess the eye worked."
By Wednesday night, James and the Heat will be able to say that with certainty.
The Heat cleared a roster spot Tuesday by parting ways with Carlos Arroyo, and although the team made no formal pronouncements because of NBA rules, several players - James, Dwyane Wade and Mario Chalmers among them - said they will have Bibby aboard soon.
Bibby is expected to be in South Florida on Wednesday, will likely participate in Thursday morning's shootaround practice and should be in uniform when the Heat play the Orlando Magic that night.
"I think it's a big thing for us," said Heat guard Eddie House, Bibby's brother-in-law. "He's going to do a lot of things that can help LeBron, Dwyane and everyone else around here."
Miami announced the Arroyo move in time for the veteran guard to sign with another team and be eligible for its postseason roster.
"This was a very difficult decision to make because Carlos has done a great job for this team and this organization," Heat President Pat Riley said. "He is truly a first class individual and professional. We wish him nothing but the best."
Bibby was traded by Atlanta to Washington last week. He was in Miami on Friday for his first - and ultimately, next-to-last - game with the Wizards, saying he was aware of buyout rumblings but did not know what the future held.
"I can't control it," Bibby said.
The Wizards and Bibby reached a buyout agreement on Monday, and he didn't take long to pick his next destination. It means the Heat, at a crucial time of the season, will be giving a new point guard on-the-fly training about how they play the game.
"It's easier with veteran players with high IQs and if you have a definitive system and philosophy," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "Which we do."
Since Bibby won't be a Heat player until Wednesday, Spoelstra could not speak about him specifically.
James could.
"He's going to help us out tremendously," James said.
The Heat had conversations with other players who hit the market through buyouts, including Troy Murphy, who is expected to sign Wednesday with Boston. If Murphy picked Miami, the Heat would have likely waived little-used big man Jamaal Magloire to create another roster spot.
Magloire was relieved to be in practice Tuesday.
"I would have been disappointed otherwise," Magloire said.
Spoelstra said he cannot wait for the speculating about what'll happen with Miami's roster to end.
"Once you get past this date, you can focus on absolutes - who you have and who you don't have," Spoelstra said. "And we're close. ... I feel that our team is good enough."
Miami (43-17) entered play Tuesday one game behind Boston (43-15) and a game ahead of Chicago (41-17) in the race for the top spot in the Eastern Conference.
Bibby averaged 9.4 points and 3.6 assists as a starter with Atlanta this season, his 13th in the league. The Heat would become his fifth NBA team, a list also including Vancouver, Sacramento, the Hawks and the Wizards, with whom he shot 1 for 9 in two games after the trade that he said caught him by surprise last week.
He's also appeared and started in 80 postseason games, which is more than any other current Heat player. James and Zydrunas Ilgauskas have been in 71 playoff games, all during their time in Cleveland together.
"Certain moves are surprising and unexpected," Wade said. "The Mike Bibby (trade) was probably the most surprising, unexpected move. A lot of people think it was the Kendrick Perkins move (from Boston to Oklahoma City), but I think it was Mike Bibby. No one expected that. He became available and when opportunities present themselves you've got to jump on them."
Arroyo was not at practice and did not immediately respond to a text message. He started 42 games for Miami this season and played in seven others, but logged only 27 minutes of court time since Jan. 30 - more than half of that coming in a Feb. 16 game at Toronto.
"It's never easy," Wade said. "It's always bittersweet, especially in this situation for Carlos. You look at it, he was doing a great job starting, really didn't do anything wrong. It's very unfortunate. The one thing we can do is hope that he ends up in a good situation."
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