John Stockton

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:36 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.

ParaDime77 · Post by **ParaDime77** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:00 pm

The guy does not get enough credit at all, he built Karl Malone hands down and together the pick and roll was unstoppable. He may have looked like a preacher's son, but the dude was cold as ice!

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:36 pm

If he wasn't saddled with Greg Ostertag in the late 90's, he would have had two rings.

alecjonsludge · Post by **alecjonsludge** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:08 pm

Rainbow Bright wrote:If he wasn't saddled with Greg Ostertag in the late 90's, he would have had two rings.

If MJ hadn't broke both of Byron Russell's ankles in game 6 of the '98 Finals,he might've had one for sure.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:58 pm

alecjonsludge wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:If he wasn't saddled with Greg Ostertag in the late 90's, he would have had two rings.

If MJ hadn't broke both of Byron Russell's ankles in game 6 of the '98 Finals,he might've had one for sure.

Push-off, dude. It was a push-off.

Redman77 · Post by **Redman77** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:29 am

Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.

Do tell.

johnk5150 · Post by **johnk5150** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:02 am

Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.

He played the game dirty. Like it should be played. His hall of fame acceptance speech made Jordan look like a fucking clown. Jordan used the word me about a thousand times. Stockton gave everyone in his life all the credit for his success. That's aces in my book.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Redman77 wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.
Do tell.

MJ was a Shooting Guard.

Clovis Died · Post by **Clovis Died** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:50 pm

Redman77 wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.
Do tell.

This

cantstopthemusic · Post by **cantstopthemusic** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:13 am

Rainbow Bright wrote:
Redman77 wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.
Do tell.

MJ was a Shooting Guard.

Exactly.

Redman77 FAIL

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:22 pm

And its true MJ had six rings and he was indeed a legend, he also had excellent team-mates for both runs and P-Jax.

Stockton had Malone, a washed up Horacek and one of the worst centers ever in Gregory Donovan Ostertag.

Tymaster · Post by **Tymaster** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:49 pm

Rainbow Bright wrote:
Redman77 wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myMvojT6zIc

I would take him over MJ. The man created shots like McDonald's creates calories. Greatest PG ever.
Do tell.

MJ was a Shooting Guard.

I can't believe someone who would take the time to find a picture of MJ would then go on to call him a point guard!!! LMAO. Although we all know in Phil's triangle offense, even Rodman was given times to bring the ball up the court. But yes, MJ was a shooting guard. B.J. Armstrong was the PG for Jordan's first three rings. Ron Harper the second trilogy.

Tymaster · Post by **Tymaster** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:51 pm

P.S. for my money
Mark Price > John Stockton
Although I used to make it a point to go to Richfield (RIP) every year when the Jazz came to play the Cavs. Talk about a battle royal of great PG's!!!
And before you laugh me out of here, remember, the only thing that kept the early 90's Cavs out of the finals was a guy named MJ!! The Cavs were STACKED back then.

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:27 pm

Tymaster wrote:I can't believe someone who would take the time to find a picture of MJ would then go on to call him a point guard!!! LMAO.

Um, the OP say that they would take Stockton over MJ. And Redman77 never called him a point guard.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:47 pm

MJ never had bums on his team like Stockton and Malone did. You could also make the argument for the Clyde era Blazers.

Tymaster · Post by **Tymaster** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:00 pm

Tenacious_Dio wrote:
Tymaster wrote:I can't believe someone who would take the time to find a picture of MJ would then go on to call him a point guard!!! LMAO.
Um, the OP say that they would take Stockton over MJ. And Redman77 never called him a point guard.

Shame on me. It appeared as if that's what he was implying, but clearly he's not. I humbly apologize.

Space Bear · Post by **Space Bear** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:09 pm

You guys are all stupid. Stockton was a center. I used to love watching him throw the ball to Dr. J when they played together for the Cowboys.

Don't make me have to school anyone again. My basketball knowledge is unmatched.

Heenan Snuka · Post by **Heenan Snuka** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:46 am

Rainbow Bright wrote:And its true MJ had six rings and he was indeed a legend, he also had excellent team-mates for both runs and P-Jax.

Stockton had Malone, a washed up Horacek and one of the worst centers ever in Gregory Donovan Ostertag.

Mike had Pippen and a bunch of average players who overachieved because of Mike...

MJ beat him 2 years in a row, tough shit

Tymaster · Post by **Tymaster** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:59 am

Heenan Snuka wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:And its true MJ had six rings and he was indeed a legend, he also had excellent team-mates for both runs and P-Jax.

Stockton had Malone, a washed up Horacek and one of the worst centers ever in Gregory Donovan Ostertag.

Mike had Pippen and a bunch of average players who overachieved because of Mike...

MJ beat him 2 years in a row, tough shit

Longley and Kukoc were probably the guiltiest of overachieving. Rodman's a hall of famer, but your point is taken. However, it must be stated that the same thing could be said about the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. The real star here is Phil Jackson. He found players good at one thing, and whatever that one thing was it became their role. So both the Bulls and Lakers had their two stars and a team full of players who knew their role and performed it well.

ParaDime77 · Post by **ParaDime77** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:25 am

Tymaster wrote:P.S. for my money
Mark Price > John Stockton
Although I used to make it a point to go to Richfield (RIP) every year when the Jazz came to play the Cavs. Talk about a battle royal of great PG's!!!
And before you laugh me out of here, remember, the only thing that kept the early 90's Cavs out of the finals was a guy named MJ!! The Cavs were STACKED back then.

Mark Price was a good PG, but he wasn't John Stockton. Longevity speaks volumes my man.

Tymaster · Post by **Tymaster** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:41 am

ParaDime77 wrote:
Tymaster wrote:P.S. for my money
Mark Price > John Stockton
Although I used to make it a point to go to Richfield (RIP) every year when the Jazz came to play the Cavs. Talk about a battle royal of great PG's!!!
And before you laugh me out of here, remember, the only thing that kept the early 90's Cavs out of the finals was a guy named MJ!! The Cavs were STACKED back then.
Mark Price was a good PG, but he wasn't John Stockton. Longevity speaks volumes my man.

That's like saying Joe Theisman was a shitty QB because his leg snapped in two. Price battled injuries throughout his career. But in his prime he was fantastic.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:20 pm

Space Bear wrote:You guys are all stupid. Stockton was a center. I used to love watching him throw the ball to Dr. J when they played together for the Cowboys.

Don't make me have to school anyone again. My basketball knowledge is unmatched.

Rainbow Bright · Post by **Rainbow Bright** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:23 pm

Heenan Snuka wrote:
Rainbow Bright wrote:And its true MJ had six rings and he was indeed a legend, he also had excellent team-mates for both runs and P-Jax.

Stockton had Malone, a washed up Horacek and one of the worst centers ever in Gregory Donovan Ostertag.

Mike had Pippen and a bunch of average players who overachieved because of Mike...

MJ beat him 2 years in a row, tough shit

I would take Steve Kerr and Rodman over Ostertag and Horacek any day.

Redman77 · Post by **Redman77** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:53 am

Tymaster wrote: I can't believe someone who would take the time to find a picture of MJ would then go on to call him a point guard!!! LMAO. Although we all know in Phil's triangle offense, even Rodman was given times to bring the ball up the court. But yes, MJ was a shooting guard. B.J. Armstrong was the PG for Jordan's first three rings. Ron Harper the second trilogy.

Tell me where I said he was a PG? RB said (s)he'd take Stockton over MJ. The best PG ever is Magic.

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