BCS Title Game....

[bane]

That one part of your sentence there bane, the higher payouts one, yeah that's what's different.

They could easily implement a playoff that made them the same, if not more, money. I think worse case we end up with a plus one game sooner or later.

[cantstopthemusic]

I want a playoff too. Div 2 pulls it off just fine. I don't see how that makes the SEC any less "the best" this year. We're gauging this year based on what we've got, and what we've got says the SEC is currently the best football conference in the country.

Please stop right there.
You can not compare Div 2 teams/schools to Div 1.
Sorry. Impossible to do

Why not? I'm not proposing they play each other. I'm simply saying that D2 school's playoff seems to function just fine. Other than the bigger exposure and much higher payouts, what's the difference?

Who's going to buy the tickets to "all" the playoff games (most importantly)? How many people are going to be able to TRAVEL (visting team, especially) to MULTIPLE games, on short notice?

Do you realize how SMALL the crowds are at D-2 playoff games (visting team's fans, especially)? There's a reason for that. Same reasoning applies to a full-fledged 16 team playoff.

Ever had to book airfare with a week or less notice? Not exactly affordable.

You'd also have to shorten the regular season. FBS teams currently play 12-13 per year. D2 plays 11. Sixteen to seventeen games is far too many football games in one season.

A "plus one" is the ideal format.

LSU/Bama winner (using this year's teams as an example) vs. OK State/Stanford winner.

That would kick ass.

[NeverSurrender]

That one part of your sentence there bane, the higher payouts one, yeah that's what's different.

They could easily implement a playoff that made them the same, if not more, money. I think worse case we end up with a plus one game sooner or later.

Yeah, but that's like saying McDonalds will make more money if they make burgers that are better for you, like ones with real meat. Sure they might, but they're rich as fuck now, why bother?

[Tommy]

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ ... t_4m7LNlGU

The Big East introduced Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and Central Florida as its new members, effective 2013.

"The Big East conference is the first truly national college football conference," Commissioner John Marinatto said Wednesday during a teleconference with the university leaders from the new members.

Boise State President Bob Kustra said his school was "proud to be aboard."

The Big East, depleted by the planned departures of Syracuse, Pittsburgh and West Virginia, is trying to rebuild as a 12-team football conference with a western division.

Boise State and San Diego State, which currently play in the Mountain West Conference, will join the Big East only for football. Houston, SMU and UCF will be leaving Conference USA and joining the Big East in all sports.

"We have ambitious plans, and this expansion is a great stride toward reaching them," Marinatto said.

The Big East has also been pursuing Air Force and Navy as football only members, but those schools have yet to commit.

[exitflagger]

Why? No one has told be why aside from the arbitrary ranking system.

LOL @ "arbitrary". To anybody who can see this rationally, the BCS rating system is flawed but pretty close to accurate overall. Nobody's pulling names from a fucking hopper.

Get some salve for that butthurt there, podner.

[Tommy]

Why? No one has told be why aside from the arbitrary ranking system.

LOL @ "arbitrary". To anybody who can see this rationally, the BCS rating system is flawed but pretty close to accurate nonetheless. Nobody's pulling names from a fucking hopper.

Get some salve for that butthurt there, podner.

Not butthurt at all. Just calling out a corrupt system.

[exitflagger]

Not butthurt at all. Just calling out a corrupt system.

Again, "corrupt" is overstating things by a country mile. You really think the true ability of these teams, if they were somehow rated by some omniscient, all-knowing judging entity that we unfortunately have no access to, would rate these teams in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT order? Or pretty damn close to what the BCS has rated them?

Unless you admit the latter, you're really just fooling yourself. Slightly flawed is nowhere near "arbitrary" nor "corrupt".

[BodyBagz]

I dont think you'd get any argument about the shittyness of the BCS situation from anybody outside of a few university presidents. I don't know a single fan who doesn't want a playoff.

You obviously don't live 45 minutes from the Bama state line like I do.

And what does that mean? I live in Alabama...and everyone I know, hardcore fans and casual fans alike have been screaming for a play-off system for years...most aggressively I might add when Auburn was locked out in 2004-2005.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Slightly flawed is nowhere near "arbitrary" nor "corrupt".

The title game is probably correct, but the BCS is corrupt. Virginia freaking Tech got a BCS bid. And they were 17th in the final AP poll. But their fans travel. Money talks, once again.

[bane]

Slightly flawed is nowhere near "arbitrary" nor "corrupt".

The title game is probably correct, but the BCS is corrupt. Virginia freaking Tech got a BCS bid. And they were 17th in the final AP poll. But their fans travel. Money talks, once again.

I don't know if corrupt is the right term. Outside of the title game, the rest are just entertainment productions. Ability to draw plays a role in who gets picked. If it was corrupt, it'd be a secret.

[exitflagger]

Slightly flawed is nowhere near "arbitrary" nor "corrupt".

The title game is probably correct, but the BCS is corrupt. Virginia freaking Tech got a BCS bid. And they were 17th in the final AP poll. But their fans travel. Money talks, once again.

I don't know if corrupt is the right term. Outside of the title game, the rest are just entertainment productions. Ability to draw plays a role in who gets picked. If it was corrupt, it'd be a secret.

It was that way before there ever was a BCS. Always has been.

[BodyBagz]

Florida - Legitimate Powerhouse

How have they been the last 2 years?

2011: Conference 3-5 Overall 6-6 OOC Opp.- FAU, UAB, Furman

2010: Conference 4-4 Overall 8-5 OOC Opp.- Miami (OH), South FL, App.St. (FCS)

Powerhouse, post-Tebow? Uhhhhh ... NO.

So, by your logic, once a team comes into a rebuilding timeframe, we should just totally "wash away" everything they did the previous 4,5 or 10 years? If so, there isnt any "powerhouse" teams left...fuck a USC, Alabama, Oregon, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas etc,etc....yeah, ok....

Florida is in the same boat as many other "powerhouse" schools..rebuilding mode for lack of a better term...Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami, Penn State, Texas, USC and the list goes on...all these schools have storied histories in the NCAA...and ony season could see them back to full dominance and prominence.

[cantstopthemusic]

Florida is in the same boat as many other "powerhouse" schools..rebuilding mode for lack of a better term...Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami, Penn State, Texas, USC and the list goes on...all these schools have storied histories in the NCAA...and ony season could see them back to full dominance and prominence.

Please notify me when Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami and Notre Lame have regained a PRESENT DAY "powerhouse" status. You can only rest on your laurels for so long.

[BodyBagz]

Florida is in the same boat as many other "powerhouse" schools..rebuilding mode for lack of a better term...Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami, Penn State, Texas, USC and the list goes on...all these schools have storied histories in the NCAA...and ony season could see them back to full dominance and prominence.

Please notify me when Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami and Notre Lame have regained a PRESENT DAY "powerhouse" status. You can only rest on your laurels for so long.

Out of all those you just listed, only Notre Dame has truly been resting on their laurels...as they have for 20+ years. The fact that the BCS actually has a rule in place for them as well as being named after them is refuckingdonkulous...(Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.) <--->BCS Selection Process

As far as the others, I stand by what I wrote...each of those teams were powerhouses, and still have the ability to be so again. You cant wash away history..

[NeverSurrender]

I dont think you'd get any argument about the shittyness of the BCS situation from anybody outside of a few university presidents. I don't know a single fan who doesn't want a playoff.

You obviously don't live 45 minutes from the Bama state line like I do.

And what does that mean? I live in Alabama...and everyone I know, hardcore fans and casual fans alike have been screaming for a play-off system for years...most aggressively I might add when Auburn was locked out in 2004-2005.

They're a little more understandable this year.

[NeverSurrender]

It was that way before there ever was a BCS. Always has been.

Not really. Because number 1 and number 2 rarely met in a "title" game because of bowl alliances. Therefore more than 1 game would have championship implications.

[exitflagger]

It was that way before there ever was a BCS. Always has been.

Not really. Because number 1 and number 2 rarely met in a "title" game because of bowl alliances. Therefore more than 1 game would have championship implications.

I was talking about money and politics dictating who went to what bowl game.

[bane]

Florida is in the same boat as many other "powerhouse" schools..rebuilding mode for lack of a better term...Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami, Penn State, Texas, USC and the list goes on...all these schools have storied histories in the NCAA...and ony season could see them back to full dominance and prominence.

Please notify me when Tennessee, Florida State, Texas A&M, Miami and Notre Lame have regained a PRESENT DAY "powerhouse" status. You can only rest on your laurels for so long.

Out of all those you just listed, only Notre Dame has truly been resting on their laurels...as they have for 20+ years. The fact that the BCS actually has a rule in place for them as well as being named after them is refuckingdonkulous...(Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.) <--->BCS Selection Process

As far as the others, I stand by what I wrote...each of those teams were powerhouses, and still have the ability to be so again. You cant wash away history..

Texas A&M hasn't really mattered since 1994. 17 years later and they still rate "powerhouse"?

[BodyBagz]

As far as the others, I stand by what I wrote...each of those teams were powerhouses, and still have the ability to be so again. You cant wash away history..

Texas A&M hasn't really mattered since 1994. 17 years later and they still rate "powerhouse"?

Read what I wrote again...there is a key word in that sentence. Texas A&M has had roughly an above .500 rating for the last decade...some years its been less, but on the average they have been a solid 7-5 team. Given the right coach and the right recruiting class and I see no problem with them regaining their former status.

The same could be said for Notre Dame, but I believe it will take ND longer to do so since they have to recruit with the recruits already knowing that they are an Independent with no real Automatic Bid for BCS Bowls unless they rank at #8 or higher in the final poll, whereas in a regular conference a team can be ranked 14th or better/(worse at times) and get a bowl.

[bane]

I agree that a team like A&M will be an elite program again at some point, I just think you're criteria is far too liberal when you're labeling teams in order to rate a conference's strength. A&M has been mostly middle of the pack in the Big12 for about 15 years. They're not at the same level as an Oklahoma or a Texas. Those teams have been at or near the top of the conference the past decade or so for the most part. Any school can have a down year here and there, but sustained success is what matters. I'd call them "powerhouses".

[exitflagger]

SEC is overrated.


Discuss.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/01/06 ... eedID=3585

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

That Notre Dame shit is ridiculous. One more reason to despise them.

[cantstopthemusic]

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=259255&p=5413500#p5413500

[BodyBagz]

So, how many arent watching this rematch tonight?

[bane]

So, how many arent watching this rematch tonight?

I watched a few minutes of it. Looks as boring as I thought it would be. I switched the channel.

[NeverSurrender]

So, how many arent watching this rematch tonight?

I watched a few minutes of it. Looks as boring as I thought it would be. I switched the channel.

I tuned in with 4 minutes left in the game, and just switched the channel. What a joke this shit is. Two southern teams, in the south. If it smells like a rat...

[bane]

I tuned in with 4 minutes left in the game, and just switched the channel.

4 minutes left? Dude, it's half time.

[NeverSurrender]

I tuned in with 4 minutes left in the game, and just switched the channel.

4 minutes left? Dude, it's half time.

Dude, if you could've see the nug I just smoked, you'd understand.

[BodyBagz]

I`m watching..although you cant tell from the score, this is not the same game from November. Alabama has switched up their offensive scheme enough to confuse LSU for the first half.

It will be interesting to see how both teams come out and play in the 2nd. Bama will be receiving for the start of this half...

[cantstopthemusic]

Who put the roofies in the Tiger's Gatorade?

I'm revising my prediction: (current score 9-0)

Bama: 26

LSU: 14