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Nick Diaz no-showed for the BJJ match with Braulio Estima.
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It was for charity, too. It's getting harder and harder to defend Nick Diaz. He's definitely one of my favorite fighters, but he kinda acts like a douche. I'd still love to smoke weed with him some day, though.
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Bad week.
Diaz no showed, the zaromskis figth was stopped from a cut which imo was bullshit...well at least Bob Sapp lived up to expectations vs Pudz.
Diaz no showed, the zaromskis figth was stopped from a cut which imo was bullshit...well at least Bob Sapp lived up to expectations vs Pudz.
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Bob Sapp doesn't even bother these days, he's just happy to keep collecting those pay checks.mullet_head wrote:Bad week.
Diaz no showed, the zaromskis figth was stopped from a cut which imo was bullshit...well at least Bob Sapp lived up to expectations vs Pudz.
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Who cares about the Diaz brothers. Anyone who watched that Condit fight sober realized that they're very weak against an intelligent fighter with a decent gameplan. Go back to Japan and dominate Dream losers!
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Exactly, that's what I expect him to do, and that is what he does. Never fails.BD888 wrote:Bob Sapp doesn't even bother these days, he's just happy to keep collecting those pay checks.mullet_head wrote:Bad week.
Diaz no showed, the zaromskis figth was stopped from a cut which imo was bullshit...well at least Bob Sapp lived up to expectations vs Pudz.
You don't even need to pay him to take a dive, just pay him, he'll take a dive.
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I suppose at the vey least, he doesn't get injured in every fight like Ken shamrock.mullet_head wrote:Exactly, that's what I expect him to do, and that is what he does. Never fails.BD888 wrote:Bob Sapp doesn't even bother these days, he's just happy to keep collecting those pay checks.mullet_head wrote:Bad week.
Diaz no showed, the zaromskis figth was stopped from a cut which imo was bullshit...well at least Bob Sapp lived up to expectations vs Pudz.
You don't even need to pay him to take a dive, just pay him, he'll take a dive.
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Cesar Gracies explaination of Nick Diaz's absence:
http://graciefighter.com/2012/05/world- ... /#more-690
World Jiu-jitsu Expo and Nick Diaz
May 15, 2012
My decision to write an account of what happened this weekend is not to answer to the detractors of myself or my team, as no explanation is owed them. It is instead based on my acknowledgement and respect to our fans and supporters. I never thought I would be answering for something that happened at a grappling tournament, however with the worldwide popularity of the sport and my team increasing, I understand that our supporters need answers.
Below is a compilation of events in chronological order. I included the behind the scenes problems we had to let you, our supporters, know how things deteriorated.
Facts
In the month of February I was contacted by a Brazilian named Junior asking me if I wanted to participate in an Expo\Jiu-jitsu tournament. The goal was to put one of our team’s stars in the event to attract sponsors and ensure it was successful. The event was not that far away and they desperately needed exposure. Junior stated that he was working with my uncle Rilion and my cousin Renzo on this project and they were in fact partners. Rilion and Renzo are 2 people that I greatly admire and respect and I was more than happy to partner up with them.
I discussed the idea with Nick Diaz and he readily agreed to enter in the black belt gi division. He did not seek any reimbursement. Junior thought it better for Nick to do a super fight as he thought this would be more of a spectacle and bring in more attention. Nick was not as enthusiastic but agreed on the condition that whoever was picked to go against him was not an mma fighter. He knew even a mediocre mma fighter would try to use a match and/or victory over him to further their career in mma. Nick believes a reputation as a fighter should only be earned in a ring or cage.I relayed this to Junior and he agreed to arrange for a strict jiu-jitsu competitor.
In March I received the disturbing news from Rilion that Junior had broken his agreement with him. Rilion stated to me that Junior was registering all World Jiu-jitsu Expo names under his name alone and was no longer taking his phone calls. When contacted by me, Junior stated that he would no longer honor his financial obligations to Rilion because “Rilion was doing nothing and treats me like one of his clerks”.
He then went on a tirade about Rilion which I interrupted and reminded him that Rilion was my family member and I would not listen to someone speaking negatively about him.
This rift left me in a dilemma. My instinct was to sever ties immediately. Rilion was my original jiu-jitsu instructor and his reputation as an honest person was impeccable. On the other hand we had already committed Diaz and Caio Terra. Our removal would destroy an event Renzo provided all of the funding for.
I consulted with Rilion who advised me to move forward with the event. He was the one that had brought Renzo into this project and convinced Renzo to fund it. He also still believed in the idea of an American tournament that paid the best BJJ guys on the planet to showcase their skills. We agreed to move forward without him since at this stage Junior had entrenched himself and his removal was impossible. Lastly Rilion warned me that Junior was not to be trusted and would undoubtedly try to cheat me and Renzo.
In early April I got the call from Junior asking what I thought of a Braulio Estima vs Nick Diaz matchup. I had heard of Braulio and knew he was a formidable jiu-jitsu practitioner. I was under the impression that Braulio competed in the close to 200lbs weight category.
When I asked Junior he assured me that Braulio could weigh in as little as 175 lbs right before the match.
I presented his information to Nick who accepted the matchup and seemed happy to go against the top BJJ player in the world at that weight. Nick started training for the match and I brought up several BJJ black belts to compliment his training.
Looking through some of Estima’s youtube videos, it was soon discovered that he had in fact been planning on entering upon a career in mma. We wondered if the match with Diaz was a way to create a buzz around him and get him signed with a prominent organization.
I called Junior who assured me Estima would not be fighting in mma and that he had spoken with him and been assured he had given up on the idea of ever fighting. Junior reiterated, “Cesar I spoke with Braulio, the guy is in his 30′s, he has a family and doesn’t want to live that type of life at this stage in his life…etc”
I repeated this info to Nick. A week or so later it was all over the Internet that Braulio had joined the “Blackzillians” and was training for an mma fight. We had been lied to. Furthermore it was evident that Nick’s sole condition that he not go against a wanna be mma guy was violated and this was in fact an attempt by Braulio to ignite an mma career.Nick was to have been accurately portrayed as a fighter returning to his BJJ roots. He had even agreed to give his entire purse to charity; St Jude’s Children’s Hospital for kids with cancer. If you know the story of Ralph Gracie’s son you would understand why this charity was chosen. Nick’s name having been added to this event had saved it but now it was clear he was to be the patsy, not respected but used.
Despite all of this Nick was still going to compete. He brought up Kron Gracie and prepared himself. Around this time I was informed by Junior that Braulio wanted to weigh in the day before and not right before the match as is the custom in IBJJ competitions and Abu Dhabi. At the time Nick was about 186lbs so I consented to both guys weighing in at 180lbs the night before.
Nick boarded a plane on Friday for Long Beach having cut 6 pounds for the weigh in that night. On his way there I got a call from Junior telling me Braulio would not be making weight! ”Cesar Braulio is complaining about the weight cut. Can we have him weigh in tomorrow? He can’t make the weight tonight how about 185 in the morning?”
Nick arrives in Long Beach to the news that there will be no weigh ins that night. As a professional with over 30 fights this was the final straw. The disrespect and total lack of professionalism given him convinced him he was at a circus not a professional event.
At 3:20 in the morning I received a text from Junior that Braulio would in fact make the 180lbs weight class at 10:00AM. With no other option available I said fine I’ll check with Nick in the morning. At 10:00AM Braulio did weigh in at 180lbs but by that time Nick had already left.
Opinion
As a Brazilian I love Brazil but not all things Brazilian. In the last decade I have witnessed Brazilian cronies running the IBJJF and making it impossible for Americans to get a fair shake when competing against their Brazilian countrymen. These cronies have instituted rules to where if you miss weight by even half a pound you are disqualified and not refunded your entry fee. They gladly keep your money and treat you like crap in your country because they can. One of these cronies (Junior) decided to bend all the rules for Braulio Estima and treat Nick Diaz like crap. Sorry that didn’t work out here.
As for Braulio I still respect him as a great BJJ artist. As far as calling Nick out for a mma fight, he knows that is impossible because Nick is signed with the UFC and in mma you have to make weight when they want you to. Not when you want to. If Braulio ever finds success in mma then he can mention Nick’s name for a fight. Right now he should respect the man.
Nick is not without fault by any means. His lack of communication with his team and coach was inexcusable. This will be addressed privately.
Renzo and I have spoken and we are committed to continuing with this otherwise awesome event….without the services of Junior.
It should be noted that Nick paid to St Jude’s Children’s Hospitable the sum of what would have been his entire purse.
Thank you,
You have my apologies and my respect
Cesar Gracie
http://graciefighter.com/2012/05/world- ... /#more-690
World Jiu-jitsu Expo and Nick Diaz
May 15, 2012
My decision to write an account of what happened this weekend is not to answer to the detractors of myself or my team, as no explanation is owed them. It is instead based on my acknowledgement and respect to our fans and supporters. I never thought I would be answering for something that happened at a grappling tournament, however with the worldwide popularity of the sport and my team increasing, I understand that our supporters need answers.
Below is a compilation of events in chronological order. I included the behind the scenes problems we had to let you, our supporters, know how things deteriorated.
Facts
In the month of February I was contacted by a Brazilian named Junior asking me if I wanted to participate in an Expo\Jiu-jitsu tournament. The goal was to put one of our team’s stars in the event to attract sponsors and ensure it was successful. The event was not that far away and they desperately needed exposure. Junior stated that he was working with my uncle Rilion and my cousin Renzo on this project and they were in fact partners. Rilion and Renzo are 2 people that I greatly admire and respect and I was more than happy to partner up with them.
I discussed the idea with Nick Diaz and he readily agreed to enter in the black belt gi division. He did not seek any reimbursement. Junior thought it better for Nick to do a super fight as he thought this would be more of a spectacle and bring in more attention. Nick was not as enthusiastic but agreed on the condition that whoever was picked to go against him was not an mma fighter. He knew even a mediocre mma fighter would try to use a match and/or victory over him to further their career in mma. Nick believes a reputation as a fighter should only be earned in a ring or cage.I relayed this to Junior and he agreed to arrange for a strict jiu-jitsu competitor.
In March I received the disturbing news from Rilion that Junior had broken his agreement with him. Rilion stated to me that Junior was registering all World Jiu-jitsu Expo names under his name alone and was no longer taking his phone calls. When contacted by me, Junior stated that he would no longer honor his financial obligations to Rilion because “Rilion was doing nothing and treats me like one of his clerks”.
He then went on a tirade about Rilion which I interrupted and reminded him that Rilion was my family member and I would not listen to someone speaking negatively about him.
This rift left me in a dilemma. My instinct was to sever ties immediately. Rilion was my original jiu-jitsu instructor and his reputation as an honest person was impeccable. On the other hand we had already committed Diaz and Caio Terra. Our removal would destroy an event Renzo provided all of the funding for.
I consulted with Rilion who advised me to move forward with the event. He was the one that had brought Renzo into this project and convinced Renzo to fund it. He also still believed in the idea of an American tournament that paid the best BJJ guys on the planet to showcase their skills. We agreed to move forward without him since at this stage Junior had entrenched himself and his removal was impossible. Lastly Rilion warned me that Junior was not to be trusted and would undoubtedly try to cheat me and Renzo.
In early April I got the call from Junior asking what I thought of a Braulio Estima vs Nick Diaz matchup. I had heard of Braulio and knew he was a formidable jiu-jitsu practitioner. I was under the impression that Braulio competed in the close to 200lbs weight category.
When I asked Junior he assured me that Braulio could weigh in as little as 175 lbs right before the match.
I presented his information to Nick who accepted the matchup and seemed happy to go against the top BJJ player in the world at that weight. Nick started training for the match and I brought up several BJJ black belts to compliment his training.
Looking through some of Estima’s youtube videos, it was soon discovered that he had in fact been planning on entering upon a career in mma. We wondered if the match with Diaz was a way to create a buzz around him and get him signed with a prominent organization.
I called Junior who assured me Estima would not be fighting in mma and that he had spoken with him and been assured he had given up on the idea of ever fighting. Junior reiterated, “Cesar I spoke with Braulio, the guy is in his 30′s, he has a family and doesn’t want to live that type of life at this stage in his life…etc”
I repeated this info to Nick. A week or so later it was all over the Internet that Braulio had joined the “Blackzillians” and was training for an mma fight. We had been lied to. Furthermore it was evident that Nick’s sole condition that he not go against a wanna be mma guy was violated and this was in fact an attempt by Braulio to ignite an mma career.Nick was to have been accurately portrayed as a fighter returning to his BJJ roots. He had even agreed to give his entire purse to charity; St Jude’s Children’s Hospital for kids with cancer. If you know the story of Ralph Gracie’s son you would understand why this charity was chosen. Nick’s name having been added to this event had saved it but now it was clear he was to be the patsy, not respected but used.
Despite all of this Nick was still going to compete. He brought up Kron Gracie and prepared himself. Around this time I was informed by Junior that Braulio wanted to weigh in the day before and not right before the match as is the custom in IBJJ competitions and Abu Dhabi. At the time Nick was about 186lbs so I consented to both guys weighing in at 180lbs the night before.
Nick boarded a plane on Friday for Long Beach having cut 6 pounds for the weigh in that night. On his way there I got a call from Junior telling me Braulio would not be making weight! ”Cesar Braulio is complaining about the weight cut. Can we have him weigh in tomorrow? He can’t make the weight tonight how about 185 in the morning?”
Nick arrives in Long Beach to the news that there will be no weigh ins that night. As a professional with over 30 fights this was the final straw. The disrespect and total lack of professionalism given him convinced him he was at a circus not a professional event.
At 3:20 in the morning I received a text from Junior that Braulio would in fact make the 180lbs weight class at 10:00AM. With no other option available I said fine I’ll check with Nick in the morning. At 10:00AM Braulio did weigh in at 180lbs but by that time Nick had already left.
Opinion
As a Brazilian I love Brazil but not all things Brazilian. In the last decade I have witnessed Brazilian cronies running the IBJJF and making it impossible for Americans to get a fair shake when competing against their Brazilian countrymen. These cronies have instituted rules to where if you miss weight by even half a pound you are disqualified and not refunded your entry fee. They gladly keep your money and treat you like crap in your country because they can. One of these cronies (Junior) decided to bend all the rules for Braulio Estima and treat Nick Diaz like crap. Sorry that didn’t work out here.
As for Braulio I still respect him as a great BJJ artist. As far as calling Nick out for a mma fight, he knows that is impossible because Nick is signed with the UFC and in mma you have to make weight when they want you to. Not when you want to. If Braulio ever finds success in mma then he can mention Nick’s name for a fight. Right now he should respect the man.
Nick is not without fault by any means. His lack of communication with his team and coach was inexcusable. This will be addressed privately.
Renzo and I have spoken and we are committed to continuing with this otherwise awesome event….without the services of Junior.
It should be noted that Nick paid to St Jude’s Children’s Hospitable the sum of what would have been his entire purse.
Thank you,
You have my apologies and my respect
Cesar Gracie
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The KOREAN ZOMBIE baby!!!!
Would love to see him fight Jose Aldo.
Would love to see him fight Jose Aldo.
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I thought you didn't like Asian fighters, buddy? Dude brings it, I'm a fan.yeahbuddy wrote:The KOREAN ZOMBIE baby!!!!
Would love to see him fight Jose Aldo.
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Ha!mullet_head wrote:I thought you didn't like Asian fighters, buddy? Dude brings it, I'm a fan.yeahbuddy wrote:The KOREAN ZOMBIE baby!!!!
Would love to see him fight Jose Aldo.
I dont but gotta admit that he is bad ass. Seriously!
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Damn, another fight bites the dust for 146
May 17, 2012 - Mark Hunt has been forced to pull out of his UFC 146 fight against Stefan Struve due to a knee injury, MMA Fighting has learned from sources close to the fight. As a result, Struve will now face Lavar Johnson on less than two week's notice.
Johnson last fought just 12 days ago at UFC on FOX 3. He knocked out Pat Barry in the first round of their main card fight.
Hunt, a winner in his last three fights, has enjoyed a career renaissance in the UFC, so much so that there was a strong online movement to get him to replace Alistair Overeem against Junior dos Santos in the UFC 146 main event. As fate would have it, neither Overeem or Hunt will end up fighting on the card after all.
Both Struve and Johnson enter the fighting riding two-fight winnings streaks.
UFC 146, headlined by dos Santos vs. Frank Mir, airs live on pay-per-view on May 26.
May 17, 2012 - Mark Hunt has been forced to pull out of his UFC 146 fight against Stefan Struve due to a knee injury, MMA Fighting has learned from sources close to the fight. As a result, Struve will now face Lavar Johnson on less than two week's notice.
Johnson last fought just 12 days ago at UFC on FOX 3. He knocked out Pat Barry in the first round of their main card fight.
Hunt, a winner in his last three fights, has enjoyed a career renaissance in the UFC, so much so that there was a strong online movement to get him to replace Alistair Overeem against Junior dos Santos in the UFC 146 main event. As fate would have it, neither Overeem or Hunt will end up fighting on the card after all.
Both Struve and Johnson enter the fighting riding two-fight winnings streaks.
UFC 146, headlined by dos Santos vs. Frank Mir, airs live on pay-per-view on May 26.
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Damn. 146 is cursed. That card went from a 10 to a 6 just from Overroids testing positive, and now its a 5.5 from Hunt being out. At least the undercard is unchanged other than Jamie Varner replacing Evan Dunham, the undercard alone could be a fuel card.
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The Strikeforce card tomorrow is better than 146...slash4pres wrote:Damn. 146 is cursed. That card went from a 10 to a 6 just from Overroids testing positive, and now its a 5.5 from Hunt being out. At least the undercard is unchanged other than Jamie Varner replacing Evan Dunham, the undercard alone could be a fuel card.
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According to TMZ, Jon Jones got a DUI this morning at 5:00 AM when he crashed into a pole while drunk. Totaled his Bentley.
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His mom bailed him out. Enough said.slash4pres wrote:According to TMZ, Jon Jones got a DUI this morning at 5:00 AM when he crashed into a pole while drunk. Totaled his Bentley.
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I had Barnett winning the GP with or without Overeem...guess I was wrong, Cormier has been surprising me. Melendez on the other hand....FullDJacket wrote:
The Strikeforce card tomorrow is better than 146...
slash4pres wrote:According to TMZ, Jon Jones got a DUI this morning at 5:00 AM when he crashed into a pole while drunk. Totaled his Bentley.
He ran over some dude before crashing, doctors say he'll live but will never be the same again. Here's the victim's photo:
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Shadface is always funny, I kinda wished that Evans brutally knocked out Jones to complete the circle, since Machida made Rashad go derp and Jones made Machida go derp.
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If Barnett had not broken his hand in the first round it would've been a different fight. Obviously.mullet_head wrote:I had Barnett winning the GP with or without Overeem...guess I was wrong, Cormier has been surprising me. Melendez on the other hand....FullDJacket wrote:
The Strikeforce card tomorrow is better than 146...
Cormier is impressive, great chin, never been taken down, escaped out of Barnett's submission hold. If Cormier is to be beat Dos Santos and Overeem he will need a chin that is out of this world because those guys with their reach advantage are going to pound Cormier.
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Dos Santos KO
Velasquez tko
Nelson tko
Miocic KO
Struve Sub
Brandao Sub
Barboza KO
Miller UD
Ludwig UD
Sass SUb
Texeira UD
Brown UD
Velasquez tko
Nelson tko
Miocic KO
Struve Sub
Brandao Sub
Barboza KO
Miller UD
Ludwig UD
Sass SUb
Texeira UD
Brown UD
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Your main card predications were just about spot on.slash4pres wrote:Dos Santos KO
Velasquez tko
Nelson tko
Miocic KO
Struve Sub
Brandao Sub
Barboza KO
Miller UD
Ludwig UD
Sass SUb
Texeira UD
Brown UD
I thought it was a great night of fights from the prelims on FX to the ppv fights.
Good to see Hardy get back on the winning track. A very likeable guy isnt he?
I love when Buffer is introducing him & they get into it with each other. Fun stuff!
Damn, Cain brutalized Big Foot didnt he. I felt sorry for the guy.
I wanted Mir to win, but didnt think he was going to. JDS is a true champ.
The Cain/JDS rematch has to happen. What other heavyweight is there for
JDS to fight that makes sense?
What the hell was Brock Lesnar doing there? He should be ashamed of himself. The
way he went out in his last fight was pathetic. Could he maybe thinking about coming
back?
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Great night of fights. Happy for Dos Santos, Big Country and Hardy. Shame for Bigfoot.
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The funny thing is I thought country would tko Herman on the ground, and Miocic would KO SDR standing. The ppv was good from start to finish, the prelims were full of upsets, I defintely wasn't expecting Hardy to ko Bang standing, and I definitely wasn't expecting Varner and Dolloway to get a victory. Miller almost ko'd him, if his knee wasn't blown out he would've dominated dolloway. Apparently Miller went crazy backstage and dana cut him.
In utterly horrible news, Vitor broke his hand and is out of his fight with Wanderlei Silva at 147. That card will be terrible, Russow vs Werdum is the ME unless they find a replacment for vitor, and pretty much no one in the mw division is big enough that isnt already scheduled.
In utterly horrible news, Vitor broke his hand and is out of his fight with Wanderlei Silva at 147. That card will be terrible, Russow vs Werdum is the ME unless they find a replacment for vitor, and pretty much no one in the mw division is big enough that isnt already scheduled.
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Rumor has it that Brian Stahn might step up. The problem is they need a fighter that bring in ppv buys. And like you said, everybody is scheduled.slash4pres wrote:The funny thing is I thought country would tko Herman on the ground, and Miocic would KO SDR standing. The ppv was good from start to finish, the prelims were full of upsets, I defintely wasn't expecting Hardy to ko Bang standing, and I definitely wasn't expecting Varner and Dolloway to get a victory. Miller almost ko'd him, if his knee wasn't blown out he would've dominated dolloway. Apparently Miller went crazy backstage and dana cut him.
In utterly horrible news, Vitor broke his hand and is out of his fight with Wanderlei Silva at 147. That card will be terrible, Russow vs Werdum is the ME unless they find a replacment for vitor, and pretty much no one in the mw division is big enough that isnt already scheduled.
The Big Country ko is one of those ko's that will be used in highlight reels. From his beginning wind up to the other fighter taking a seat on his ass, a clean straight up knock out.
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I think Miller probably would have taken Dolloway too if it wasn't for the knee. Thanks to that, we got Dolloway on top wrestle-fucking him every round and getting nowhere (until the last minute of the fight)
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slash4pres wrote:The funny thing is I thought country would tko Herman on the ground, and Miocic would KO SDR standing. The ppv was good from start to finish, the prelims were full of upsets, I defintely wasn't expecting Hardy to ko Bang standing, and I definitely wasn't expecting Varner and Dolloway to get a victory. Miller almost ko'd him, if his knee wasn't blown out he would've dominated dolloway. Apparently Miller went crazy backstage and dana cut him.
In utterly horrible news, Vitor broke his hand and is out of his fight with Wanderlei Silva at 147. That card will be terrible, Russow vs Werdum is the ME unless they find a replacment for vitor, and pretty much no one in the mw division is big enough that isnt already scheduled.
Even with the original main event, the card for 147 was pretty weak. Now it's on life support.
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Seriously!tin00can wrote:slash4pres wrote:The funny thing is I thought country would tko Herman on the ground, and Miocic would KO SDR standing. The ppv was good from start to finish, the prelims were full of upsets, I defintely wasn't expecting Hardy to ko Bang standing, and I definitely wasn't expecting Varner and Dolloway to get a victory. Miller almost ko'd him, if his knee wasn't blown out he would've dominated dolloway. Apparently Miller went crazy backstage and dana cut him.
In utterly horrible news, Vitor broke his hand and is out of his fight with Wanderlei Silva at 147. That card will be terrible, Russow vs Werdum is the ME unless they find a replacment for vitor, and pretty much no one in the mw division is big enough that isnt already scheduled.
Even with the original main event, the card for 147 was pretty weak. Now it's on life support.
I went on the ufc website to see what the other fights are-
http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC147#/fight
including the Belfort fight there are a total of 4. 4? Are you kidding me?
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Re: The Never Ending MMA thread
FullDJacket wrote:This is the worst part about UFC. When a top name is injured or withdraw for some reason they replace him with some washed up has-been. Yes Mir had the greatest submission of all time in his last fight but he's still washed-up IMO.
yeahbuddy wrote:
I dont think he is washed up either. The guy has won his last 3 fights, what other contending heavyweight can say that? He is one of the smartest fighters out there. I would love to see him submit JDS although I dont think it will happen.
I forgot about the last time Overeem blew off a drug test. Didnt he say something like he had to tend to his sick mother or something like that. Either way, its easy to say Overeem is done in the UFC.
I was right you were wrong. Mir was washed up. He is washed up. He had nothing.Earl Skakel wrote:
I don't think he's washed up yet, I'd say he's more at the tail end of his prime as he seems to struggle against muscle guys who can bully him like Carwin and Lesnar. Although Dos Santos is far from a weakling strength wise I don't think he'll be able to bully Mir if they fight and I don't think Dos Santos has fought a guy that has the in ring smarts of Mir. Either way it really sucks as I was looking forward to see how JDS would be able to handle Overeem's K-1 kicks. It's coming out that his test results were 14:1 and to put that into perspective a normal male's ratio is 1:!!!
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Re: The Never Ending MMA thread
Rich Franklin has stepped in for Vitor B. UFC 147.
How lame is that?
Rich Franklin is beyond done.
How lame is that?
Rich Franklin is beyond done.
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Re: The Never Ending MMA thread
Actually I like that fight, Franklin can still put on a good fight, his fight with Lidell is very good. Good solution to a quick problem, and the other fights will feature TUF brazil fighters. Still stupid that it's a PPV, it's a glorified TUF finale and should be on FX/fuel. Cung Le is fighting a returning Patrick Cote, which I'm much more excited about.