The NFL Thread

[Machado]

Everyone on ESPN radio today seems to think that the 49ers are the team most likely to win the SB. What did everyone see from them yesterday that makes them think they're the favorite?

I did not see a damn thing.

If GB would have played more zone defense, that would have prevented
Kap from getting those long running plays.
Why did GB choose to play so much man defense? It was easy for Kap to escape
the rush and run for a first down over and over because the GB defenders
had their back turned to the play.

Anybody can win on any given day, but I don't think the 49ers offense can put up enough points to win at Carolina or against any other team remaining in the NFC.

[AliceManson]

Everyone on ESPN radio today seems to think that the 49ers are the team most likely to win the SB. What did everyone see from them yesterday that makes them think they're the favorite?

It is more or less getting there that got a lot easier, if the 49ers beat the Panthers (Panthers only won by one point last time, and there was no A. Smith, Davis or Crabtree then). If the Saints put down the Seahawks, there is no way this Saints team can win 3 road playoff games. And if the 49ers face the Seahawks, let's face it, this is a Carroll coached team begging to choke.

[DaveB]

Here's the latest article at ESPN.com. I don't get it. They beat a mediocre GB team on a last second FG and they're untouchable?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... nooooobody

[veritas]

Everyone on ESPN radio today seems to think that the 49ers are the team most likely to win the SB. What did everyone see from them yesterday that makes them think they're the favorite?

well, I saw Crabtree looking great, but that's about it. I would take the Saints and the Seahawks over them. Obviously, the Seahawks will be very tough to beat at home by anyone, but I didn't see a GREAT 49er team yesterday.

[johnk5150]

Everyone on ESPN radio today seems to think that the 49ers are the team most likely to win the SB. What did everyone see from them yesterday that makes them think they're the favorite?

Their D line is the best. Their linebackers are great.

[WTF]

I did not see a damn thing.

If GB would have played more zone defense, that would have prevented
Kap from getting those long running plays.
Why did GB choose to play so much man defense?

Their outside linebackers and defensive ends didn't stay at home and keep containment on the outside. That was the problem. The man defense was actually doing a decent job in coverage, which was why Kaepernick pulled the ball down and ran.

[Mongo]

The Saints were mediocre but they were good enough to win and that's all that counts.

I like the way that Khiry Robinson runs the ball.

Yea the Saints are pretty deep at RB.

Thomas
Ingram
Sproles
Robinson

And the big white FB who is still a mystery.

[UtahRatt]

If GB would have played more zone defense, that would have prevented
Kap from getting those long running plays.
Why did GB choose to play so much man defense? It was easy for Kap to escape
the rush and run for a first down over and over because the GB defenders
had their back turned to the play.

WRONG.
Not to constantly call you out or rub in that you haven't played, it's becoming old and I'll layoff from boredom but.....Think about it.

Most Zones are suited for the pass. It also depends on your players, knowing when they can leave their zone to get in on the play or the other way around.

Nnamdi Asomugha was the prime example of a premier shut down "man up" corner who couldn't play zone. Effective Man to Man corners allows you to free up your Safety's for the run, to blitz, cover TE's, take out screens, double up their superstar or to SPY the back field. In many cases Man to Man corners can go a season with 10 tackles. There are some good tackling CB's but tackling isn't their job. Most defiantly not a man to man Corners job, ask Deion Sanders.

Tackles, LB's/DB's and Safety's are KAPPFUCKS responsibility depending on the defensive assignment.

Playing man to man means exactly that, one responsibility. Covering that man all over the field.

Playing zone opens up a list of could be responsibilities, check downs and assignments.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Jerry Jones wants to add another playoff team:

After missing the playoffs the last four years and coming up short the last three with losses in the final week of the season, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might have a solution for getting his team over the hump: expand the number of postseason teams.

During a Friday morning radio interview, Jones said he's in favor of NFL playoff expansion.

"It just creates that much more excitement and that much more interest for people in those communities," Jones said on 105.3 The Fan [KRLD-FM]. "I fall on the side of the ledger that would increase the playoffs."

Now, that doesn't guarantee the Cowboys would've been part of the postseason even with expansion. The last two years the Cowboys finished ninth in the NFC with 8-8 records. They finished 10th in 2011 and 13th in 2010.

It's doubtful the NFL would go from six to 10 teams. Going from six to eight seems much more likely.

So, even expansion wouldn't have been the answer to Jones' longest playoff drought since purchasing the franchise in 1989.

"The fact that you can have a team that might have literally operated at 500 percent or in that area, won half its ball games, you can have that team win the Super Bowl," Jones said, "then that makes a big case for adding a couple more cities or communities that have NFL teams to the playoff mix."

[Bludegeon]

God Jerry just shut the fuck up..

So sick of this POS..


SELL my fucking team already you shitsack.

[Crazy Levi]

God Jerry just shut the fuck up..

So sick of this POS..


SELL my fucking team already you shitsack.

Wanna trade owners?

[WTF]

"The fact that you can have a team that might have literally operated at 500 percent or in that area, won half its ball games, you can have that team win the Super Bowl," Jones said, "then that makes a big case for adding a couple more cities or communities that have NFL teams to the playoff mix."

500 percent!? What the fuck?

[UtahRatt]

"The fact that you can have a team that might have literally operated at 500 percent or in that area, won half its ball games, you can have that team win the Super Bowl," Jones said, "then that makes a big case for adding a couple more cities or communities that have NFL teams to the playoff mix."

500 percent!? What the fuck?

I think Jones or someone missed the "point"........

[Machado]

God Jerry just shut the fuck up..

So sick of this POS..


SELL my fucking team already you shitsack.

Wanna trade owners?

To make matters worse Goodell recently announced there is quite a bit of positive
momentum for adding another playoff team.
Furthermore, Goodell said the NFL is thinking about adding a wild card game on
a Friday and/or adding a wild card game on a Monday
WTF!!!!

Head injuries, concussions and CTE be damned.
Roger, why give the players any rest in between games.
Stack the schedule like baseball while you're at it.
24 turnaround time max and get the stretchers ready.

GOON!!!

[Machado]

If GB would have played more zone defense, that would have prevented
Kap from getting those long running plays.
Why did GB choose to play so much man defense? It was easy for Kap to escape
the rush and run for a first down over and over because the GB defenders
had their back turned to the play.

WRONG.
Not to constantly call you out or rub in that you haven't played, it's becoming old and I'll layoff from boredom but.....Think about it.

Most Zones are suited for the pass. It also depends on your players, knowing when they can leave their zone to get in on the play or the other way around.

Nnamdi Asomugha was the prime example of a premier shut down "man up" corner who couldn't play zone. Effective Man to Man corners allows you to free up your Safety's for the run, to blitz, cover TE's, take out screens, double up their superstar or to SPY the back field. In many cases Man to Man corners can go a season with 10 tackles. There are some good tackling CB's but tackling isn't their job. Most defiantly not a man to man Corners job, ask Deion Sanders.

Tackles, LB's/DB's and Safety's are KAPPFUCKS responsibility depending on the defensive assignment.

Playing man to man means exactly that, one responsibility. Covering that man all over the field.

Playing zone opens up a list of could be responsibilities, check downs and assignments.

Are you really going to argue your point? Did you really passively aggressively mention I have not played the game?
Take your meds Utah. Take your meds please!

I mentioned the man coverage was leading to very long Kap runs and gaining 1st
down to extend the drives.
I also mentioned that maybe GB should have played more zone to prevent Kap from
gaining those 1st downs when scrambling.
Too much man defense without a spy/key on the QB led to those 1st down by Kap.

Really Utah? Most zones are suited for the pass. Really? You don't say

Man defense will leave the DB's and LB's on their responsibility, down the field and with their backs turned to the QB.
I.E., Kap has an open field to run around and gain 1st downs, etc......

[DaveB]

Jerry Jones wants to add another playoff team:

After missing the playoffs the last four years and coming up short the last three with losses in the final week of the season, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might have a solution for getting his team over the hump: expand the number of postseason teams.

Right. Because adding an extra team to the playoffs will SURELY get you to the Super Bowl. Sorry Jerry...the only thing this is going to do is give you another loss on the season.

[UtahRatt]

I mentioned the man coverage was leading to very long Kap runs and gaining 1st
down to extend the drives.

Man defense will leave the DB's and LB's on their responsibility, down the field and with their backs turned to the QB.
I.E., Kap has an open field to run around and gain 1st downs, etc......

If anything Man to Man is daring Kap to throw, not letting him to run.

Most NFL man coverage means the corners are locked. Everyone else is still in some type of zone. LOL @ LB's and everyone running down the field with their backs turned...Maybe on 10 second drop backs when the D brings 5-6. If that's the case someone's blown an assignment, gap or left their zone.

[UtahRatt]

Right. Because adding an extra team to the playoffs will SURELY get you to the Super Bowl. Sorry Jerry...the only thing this is going to do is give you another loss on the season.

They had problems selling out the wildcard games. Lets add a couple more teams and see how much pressure that put's on the league. Especially when the NFL goes through a QB drought. But that's why they've added all the wimp rules, to turn up the scoring like a basketball game.

[sin]

Has Goodell done anything good for football without being forced to?

[Rageman]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... in-on-deal

Bengals offensive coordinator goes to DC as the new head coach for the Washington RG III and outs

[eddie lee roth]

^
Good luck to him after what we already know about Dan Snyder and then that story from the Washington Post that just came out a couple of days ago about RG III and the owner's relationship he's gonna need it.

I'm not ready to shit all over RG III but that team more specifically RG III could use a "Parcells" type coach, who knows Gruden could be the guy I don't see how he could do worse than Shanahan.

Although to give credit where it's due to the old regime they did all right drafting players.

[AliceManson]

Jerry Jones wants to add another playoff team:

After missing the playoffs the last four years and coming up short the last three with losses in the final week of the season, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might have a solution for getting his team over the hump: expand the number of postseason teams.

Right. Because adding an extra team to the playoffs will SURELY get you to the Super Bowl. Sorry Jerry...the only thing this is going to do is give you another loss on the season.

It still wouldn't have gotten them in the last few years if there was seven teams.

[Crazy Levi]

^
Good luck to him after what we already know about Dan Snyder and then that story from the Washington Post that just came out a couple of days ago about RG III and the owner's relationship he's gonna need it.

I'm not ready to shit all over RG III but that team more specifically RG III could use a "Parcells" type coach, who knows Gruden could be the guy I don't see how he could do worse than Shanahan.

Although to give credit where it's due to the old regime they did all right drafting players.

It's pretty much impossible to win consistently with Snyder in charge, at least until someone proves otherwise. But I'm happy at least that the Skins are finally bringing in someone under the age of 50. Like you said ELR good luck to him. Shanahan did leave some decent players for him but that secondary and O-line are still a mess.

[Machado]

^
Good luck to him after what we already know about Dan Snyder and then that story from the Washington Post that just came out a couple of days ago about RG III and the owner's relationship he's gonna need it.

I'm not ready to shit all over RG III but that team more specifically RG III could use a "Parcells" type coach, who knows Gruden could be the guy I don't see how he could do worse than Shanahan.

Although to give credit where it's due to the old regime they did all right drafting players.

It's pretty much impossible to win consistently with Snyder in charge, at least until someone proves otherwise. But I'm happy at least that the Skins are finally bringing in someone under the age of 50. Like you said ELR good luck to him. Shanahan did leave some decent players for him but that secondary and O-line are still a mess.

Gruden will last about 2 1/2 seasons.
RG III and his ego will wear the man down.

Gruden needs to get control of that locker room and demand respect, but with
RGIII on the roster, that will never happen.
The relationship the Owner and RGIII currently has will supersede anything/everything the head coach will attempt to accomplish.
This hiring in fantastic for all NFC East teams.
Little reason to be concerned about The Skins and RGIII going forward.

[Crazy Levi]

Little reason to be concerned about The Skins and RGIII going forward.

Won't stop you from posting about them more than I do though, will it?

You got your own shitty team and shitty owner to be concerned about, buddy.

[Machado]

Little reason to be concerned about The Skins and RGIII going forward.

Won't stop you from posting about them more than I do though, will it?

You got your own shitty team and shitty owner to be concerned about, buddy.

Not my fault the Skins have drama on a daily basis.
They are the NFL's version of a soap opera.
One day it's this. The next day it's another incident.
Then RGIII's dad visits him in the locker room post-game
Followed by RGIII defended his dad's actions
and so on and so on and so on.

Man up and admit I had the story correct back in pre-season?
I was correct
You were incorrect

BAM!!!

[Rageman]

No lose situation for Gruden. If he fails, it's Snyder's fault. If he succeeds, he'll have a job in the NFL for the rest of his life.

[Crazy Levi]

No lose situation for Gruden. If he fails, it's Snyder's fault. If he succeeds, he'll have a job in the NFL for the rest of his life.

Exactly. I honestly don't believe that failing in Washington hurts your career. Shanahan is old and rich so I doubt you'll see him coach again, but his son Kyle is still employable. Nobody is gonna hold the disaster in DC against him.

[WTF]

No lose situation for Gruden. If he fails, it's Snyder's fault. If he succeeds, he'll have a job in the NFL for the rest of his life.

Exactly. I honestly don't believe that failing in Washington hurts your career. Shanahan is old and rich so I doubt you'll see him coach again, but his son Kyle is still employable. Nobody is gonna hold the disaster in DC against him.

You think we'll ever hear anything from Shanahan about the drama?

[Crazy Levi]

Sure, Shanahan will speak up at some point when he gets bored or if he gets sick of people in the Redskins' organization talking shit about him. But for now I'm sure he's happy to just sit at home and collect another $7 million of Snyder's money.

This is probably the 5th five-year contract Snyder has signed with a coach and he's never had one for more than four.

Gruden's contract? Another 5-year deal. Snyder is like a guy on his 6th marriage who still refuses to sign a prenup (that's for you Lemmysmole!)