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It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
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That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
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Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
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The ruling was by three Republican judges :D :D

Of course they're pissed about a crackdown on misinformation.
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Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society
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Don't Damn Me wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society
I hope you didn't go to college. Because it would really suck to have paid to be that fucking stupid.
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EatNails wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:25 am
Don't Damn Me wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.

Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society
I hope you didn't go to college. Because it would really suck to have paid to be that fucking stupid.
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EatNails wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:25 am
Don't Damn Me wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.

Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society
I hope you didn't go to college. Because it would really suck to have paid to be that fucking stupid.
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Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
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Don't Damn Me wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society
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"Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?


Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?"


He is not wrong. I have no issue with anything he said here and these are all valid points. I got the first two shots as I had to travel somewhere, but my wife and son did not. We all got covid and their was no difference in all our symptoms or severity. I will not get any more shots and certainly will not be giving any to my child.
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Nobodyspecial wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:51 amHe is not wrong. I have no issue with anything he said here and these are all valid points. I got the first two shots as I had to travel somewhere, but my wife and son did not. We all got covid and their was no difference in all our symptoms or severity. I will not get any more shots and certainly will not be giving any to my child.
That is definitely your right to decide, and I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with whatever you decide going forward, but your single data point really doesn't prove anything. Maybe your symptions would have been worse if you didn't have the vaccine? Or maybe the vaccine just had no effect on the particular Covid strain you had? None of that changes the facts that the vaccine is effective at the macro level, although individual results are going to vary when studying case by case. For a very large majority of the population, they would have been fine with or without the vaccine, but that isn't true for everyone.
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Nobodyspecial wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:51 am "Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?


Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?"


He is not wrong. I have no issue with anything he said here and these are all valid points. I got the first two shots as I had to travel somewhere, but my wife and son did not. We all got covid and their was no difference in all our symptoms or severity. I will not get any more shots and certainly will not be giving any to my child.
I got the vaccine and never got Covid. It works both ways.
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I got both shots, then a booster.

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I've had a couple of boosters since my shots. I read the vaccines last about 4 months. Is that misinformation?
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EzyRider wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:01 am I got both shots, then a booster.

After that I turned into a lizard person and started living underground.

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BDG135 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:25 am I've had a couple of boosters since my shots. I read the vaccines last about 4 months. Is that misinformation?
There's two main problems. The effacy does wane over time, but also, JUST LIKE FOR THE FLU (saying that for all the antivax types), if the particular version of the vaccine you got isn't specifically targeted to the particular strain that's going around, you'll still definitely get it, but best case scenario is it'll lessen the effects.

I had been waiting on the vaccine to be updated for some of the newer strains, and it sounds like it has, so I'll be scheduling a booster shortly.
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I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
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killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:20 am I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
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Don't Damn Me wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Silentbutdeadly wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:01 pm That is not at all what the article or court ruling said.

The government pressured social media to moderate posts with disinformation. They (the government) did not provide the disinformation. I’m aware this contradicts what you want to believe, but oh well.
Press Pass wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:50 pm It's hard to believe we needed a court to call out vaccine misinformation and suppression of free thought about vaccines, but here we are.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 20vaccines.
Hi dummy,

Man, the way you dismissed the original poster with one Fell Swoop of your lazy mind... you almost had me chanting at him "yeah moderating disinformation is different than free speech violation!"
Almost.

Who determines what disinformation is? Do you really believe the fact-checkers that censored and deleted content were independent? Because they all followed the government Fauci- led narratives, as contradictory as they became. Respected and esteemed medical professionals who provided contrary info we're not only censored they were banned and condemned.
It's a new virus that Fauci said we're still learning about, yet any information that down plays it is aggressively yanked.
Despite a survival rate of 99.9% a vaccine is mandated, even to those not at risk- children. And good news, it's one size fits all. Regardless of your medical history there is no need to talk to your doctor before taking this unproven and basically untested experiment.
And though they were still learning about the virus 2 years later, they were still administering the same vaccine. Should that Inspire confidence from the people?
So tell me this cool guy, as a parent why shouldn't I be able to review every bit of information I want to, every Medical Professional claim and every study regarding this alleged pandemic? The government is going to mandate that crap to kids while censoring info that tells us they don't need it?
Dummy, are you aware that hydroxy-chloroqin and Ivermectin have since been proven effective? By moderating that "disinformation" (how easily you minimize that into nothing) how many people suffered?

Do you agree that the pharmaceutical companies have a known history of dealing in shady practices?

So when a untested unproven vaccine is mandated under the provision that pharmaceutical companies are not liable for any ill effects, should I not be at all concerned that there's a ton of censorship going on around it?

You get the idea. Or maybe you don't. But go back to your video games. You are a government apologist, a fucking danger to society

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killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:20 am I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
And? Your experience is not reflective of most experiences world wide. You're damn lucky you didn't get Covid as you'd likely be more sick than your unlucky girlfriend. It continues to astound me the amount of anti-science nonsense still seen after millions died.
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:13 am
killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:20 am I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
And? Your experience is not reflective of most experiences world wide. You're damn lucky you didn't get Covid as you'd likely be more sick than your unlucky girlfriend. It continues to astound me the amount of anti-science nonsense still seen after millions died.
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This is the Metal Sludge Gossip Board. Why is this even being posted here?
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Re: Court: Government violated First Amendment Rights with vaccine misinformation

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killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:07 pm
Dyslexicheart wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:13 am
killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:20 am I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
And? Your experience is not reflective of most experiences world wide. You're damn lucky you didn't get Covid as you'd likely be more sick than your unlucky girlfriend. It continues to astound me the amount of anti-science nonsense still seen after millions died.
That's the beauty of having a choice there little buddy.
Right - and your dumbass decision could have got someone else sick or dead. Yay for freedumb!
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Re: Court: Government violated First Amendment Rights with vaccine misinformation

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JizzySynatra wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:08 pm This is the Metal Sludge Gossip Board. Why is this even being posted here?
Dunno, but I'm all for the Mod nuking this thread into oblivion. Either that or moving it somewhere else.
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Re: Court: Government violated First Amendment Rights with vaccine misinformation

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killdrum wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:20 am I never got the vaccine nor covid. Fortunately I don't work for a corporation that mandates. Girlfriend does and had no choice but to get the vaccine for her career. She got covid and was bedridden for a week.
And just what do you think would have happened if she got actual Covid, rather than just the vaccine? Chances are that would have been a hospital trip to a ventilator. Would you prefer that?
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