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What % of Fox News Viewers are open-minded enough to allow any of that to land, though?
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Pete’s meter is outstanding. Intelligent and measured.
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If he wasn't gay, he'd be the #1 contender.
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I never predict with certainty about election outcomes or Veepstakes bc almost everyone who does ends up being wrong, but Pete’s my “I still might be wrong” prediction.
- Tees up 2032 for another history-making candidacy and good for Democratic Party brand as far as that goes.
- Kamala’s got a history of supporting LGBT community, so it makes sense for her to elevate him.
- He would put JD Vance through a proverbial woodchipper in a debate.
- As seen here he’s great on TV.
- Old white men tend to like him.
Checks all the boxes. And I don’t give a shit who’s supposedly “on the short list” or whatever. None of that matters, and I might be wrong. Both things can be true.
- Tees up 2032 for another history-making candidacy and good for Democratic Party brand as far as that goes.
- Kamala’s got a history of supporting LGBT community, so it makes sense for her to elevate him.
- He would put JD Vance through a proverbial woodchipper in a debate.
- As seen here he’s great on TV.
- Old white men tend to like him.
Checks all the boxes. And I don’t give a shit who’s supposedly “on the short list” or whatever. None of that matters, and I might be wrong. Both things can be true.
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Actually, the main reason he's not the candidate is apparently he polls poorly with black folks. They have a weird gay bias that relates back to strict Christian beliefs.SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:32 pm I never predict with certainty about election outcomes or Veepstakes bc almost everyone who does ends up being wrong, but Pete’s my “I still might be wrong” prediction.
- Tees up 2032 for another history-making candidacy and good for Democratic Party brand as far as that goes.
- Kamala’s got a history of supporting LGBT community, so it makes sense for her to elevate him.
- He would put JD Vance through a proverbial woodchipper in a debate.
- As seen here he’s great on TV.
- Old white men tend to like him.
Checks all the boxes. And I don’t give a shit who’s supposedly “on the short list” or whatever. None of that matters, and I might be wrong. Both things can be true.
Pete is clearly a very, very strong communicator. He would be an outstanding president and hopefully gets his opportunity.
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They don't call him Mayo Pete for nothing.Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:23 pmActually, the main reason he's not the candidate is apparently he polls poorly with black folks. They have a weird gay bias that relates back to strict Christian beliefs.SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:32 pm I never predict with certainty about election outcomes or Veepstakes bc almost everyone who does ends up being wrong, but Pete’s my “I still might be wrong” prediction.
- Tees up 2032 for another history-making candidacy and good for Democratic Party brand as far as that goes.
- Kamala’s got a history of supporting LGBT community, so it makes sense for her to elevate him.
- He would put JD Vance through a proverbial woodchipper in a debate.
- As seen here he’s great on TV.
- Old white men tend to like him.
Checks all the boxes. And I don’t give a shit who’s supposedly “on the short list” or whatever. None of that matters, and I might be wrong. Both things can be true.
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Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:23 pm Actually, the main reason he's not the candidate is apparently he polls poorly with black folks. They have a weird gay bias that relates back to strict Christian beliefs.
They won't admit he's guilty. That would mean he's made fools of them.
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I think it's a super longshot.
You already have a black asian woman on top of the ticket. Smart money balances it out with straight white male. You still gotta be realistic about the country we're living in.
You already have a black asian woman on top of the ticket. Smart money balances it out with straight white male. You still gotta be realistic about the country we're living in.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:26 pmThey don't call him Mayo Pete for nothing.Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:23 pm Actually, the main reason he's not the candidate is apparently he polls poorly with black folks. They have a weird gay bias that relates back to strict Christian beliefs.
I think that’s a little overblown. Many Christians are bigoted toward gay people, that includes some black Christians. And just a lot of people generally. But he did terribly with black voters in the 2020 primary because Biden and Bernie had the vast majority of them locked up already, and from there he did a piss-poor job of trying to appeal to them. He and Klobuchar had 99% white audiences. I wasn’t a fan of his campaign because of that and some other reasons.
Kamala polled terribly with black voters as well back then before dropping out. I think (and admittedly hope) they’ll be better candidates now.
But, again, not predicting anything with certainty here.
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My money is on Mark Kelly for VP.
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Sometimes ones perceived weakness is their strength.
The idea of a black president used to be a punchline, but if Obama had been a white guy I don't think he'd have beaten Clinton for the nomination. His being black ignited young people and minorities.
Also, Pete isn't "just another token gay" any more than Obama was "just another token black guys" - both are exceptional people.
I think he'd be great on the ticket. Shapiro's fake Obama voice is too much for me.
The idea of a black president used to be a punchline, but if Obama had been a white guy I don't think he'd have beaten Clinton for the nomination. His being black ignited young people and minorities.
Also, Pete isn't "just another token gay" any more than Obama was "just another token black guys" - both are exceptional people.
I think he'd be great on the ticket. Shapiro's fake Obama voice is too much for me.
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Also thinking Kelly. Safe bet all around. One thing for sure is the Dem's have a deep bench of people who can step in and continue to have decency in the office, where the Rep's current "maga" bench is a bunch of loons.
Speaking of Loons, hey Eddie, did you see that dude put Gaets in his place? How does anyone like Gaets have a place in politics?
Watch this:
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And then watch this. Dude gets my vote.
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Speaking of Loons, hey Eddie, did you see that dude put Gaets in his place? How does anyone like Gaets have a place in politics?
Watch this:
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And then watch this. Dude gets my vote.
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Conservatives continue to prove they're just not funny.Spongie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:49 am Talk to your doctor.
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okayNeonKnite wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:10 pm "I don't believe him, cause he lies all the time."
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Mark Kelly is great, as is his wife. Got to meet her just before the Covid shutdown. She only speaks for a minute or two when she makes appearances, but it leaves a haunting and powerful impression.
I don’t think he’d make a good VP candidate honestly. Good senator, good human, not the best at debating and giving speeches, which is kind of the main role for a VP. And the whole “win a state by picking someone from there” thing is a fool’s errand. But, who knows.
I don’t think he’d make a good VP candidate honestly. Good senator, good human, not the best at debating and giving speeches, which is kind of the main role for a VP. And the whole “win a state by picking someone from there” thing is a fool’s errand. But, who knows.
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Sorry, you're just trying to skirt around the truth, here.SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:18 pmBono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:26 pmThey don't call him Mayo Pete for nothing.Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:23 pm Actually, the main reason he's not the candidate is apparently he polls poorly with black folks. They have a weird gay bias that relates back to strict Christian beliefs.
I think that’s a little overblown. Many Christians are bigoted toward gay people, that includes some black Christians. And just a lot of people generally. But he did terribly with black voters in the 2020 primary because Biden and Bernie had the vast majority of them locked up already, and from there he did a piss-poor job of trying to appeal to them.
Nobody wants to acknowledge or take black people to task for the rampant homophobia that exists.
Pete rules, but he will always struggle among black people for that reason alone.
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Yep, the gay marriage proposition was defeated in CA in 2008 because Obama really brought out the black vote.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:03 pmSorry, you're just trying to skirt around the truth, here.SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:18 pm
I think that’s a little overblown. Many Christians are bigoted toward gay people, that includes some black Christians. And just a lot of people generally. But he did terribly with black voters in the 2020 primary because Biden and Bernie had the vast majority of them locked up already, and from there he did a piss-poor job of trying to appeal to them.
Nobody wants to acknowledge or take black people to task for the rampant homophobia that exists.
Pete rules, but he will always struggle among black people for that reason alone.
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Gaets is always fucking classy.cowpins wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:33 am Also thinking Kelly. Safe bet all around. One thing for sure is the Dem's have a deep bench of people who can step in and continue to have decency in the office, where the Rep's current "maga" bench is a bunch of loons.
Speaking of Loons, hey Eddie, did you see that dude put Gaets in his place? How does anyone like Gaets have a place in politics?
Watch this:
https://x.com/JoeKhalilTV/status/1813324969755214112
And then watch this. Dude gets my vote.
https://x.com/Dr_Merica2/status/1813381138175377642
I say play it safe on VP pick don’t look a gift horse in the mouth and call it twinkle toes.
Kelly looks like a superhero.
His origins story was first he was a Navy fighter pilot then he turned into a astronaut.
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It’s just not true that Obama’s new voters put it over the top. Quite the opposite. And this was 15 years ago, an eternity on this issue.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/prop-8-myths/
If you’ve got actual data showing black people are significantly more homophobic than Americans generally, I’m open to it. It’s not what I’ve seen.
And, again, I’m not saying for sure that Pete’s the guy.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/prop-8-myths/
If you’ve got actual data showing black people are significantly more homophobic than Americans generally, I’m open to it. It’s not what I’ve seen.
And, again, I’m not saying for sure that Pete’s the guy.
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Here in the Deep South, homophobia and transphobia are largely a white fundamentalist Evangelical thing. I don’t think I’ve ever really noticed any sort of LGBTQIA+ bashing coming from black people in my hometown, whereas on social media it’s usually my fellow pasty-white honkie folk I see spewing the majority of homophobia/transphobia.
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Jeez. Can we just find Pete a nice girl so he can be President already?
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Hur hur hur! Yeah Butthead, that guy's called BUTTigeig and he's GAY! Like, he takes it up the butt!?!?! And you're called BUTT too so you must be a f.."
TBH, if he was picked as VP that would seriously be the level of the "debate" for not just the remaining months but throughout his term if Harris won. There are too many goddamn mouth-breathers out there.
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NeonKnite wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:10 pm "I don't believe him, cause he lies all the time."
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How do you know it is not his butthole getting destroyed? Do you have inside information on whether he is a pitcher or a catcher?TheCULTofMANSON wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:31 amNeonKnite wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:10 pm "I don't believe him, cause he lies all the time."
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Fake news. Only thing Buttegieg has destroyed is some dudes buttholes lol
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He'd be a no-brainer if he wasn't a Dem senator from AZ. Losing that Senate seat would be a huge blow and a huge risk.
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I'd take that bet. It's Josh Shapiro. Pennsylvania is needed to win the election and he is a popular governor. She is announcing who it is next week in Philadelphia.