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It's nice to see the old Rockers still putting a message out there.
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From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:

Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.

A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
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Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:

Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.

A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
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I always loved that song is this is a great version. Nice effort put into the video and the track.
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Better than the piece of shit motley song released today… but that doesn’t take much
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Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
Strange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?
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Cool. I gotta say I like the way Kiss modified the riff better though
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Interesting. But it sounds like he's doing a cover of a Kiss song. Would like to hear this in a more Bryan Adam-style. More Springsteen-ish.
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the riff sounds like Sex Type Thing.
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Kid-Wicked wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:45 pm the riff sounds like Sex Type Thing.
Everyone said that back when STP first released their album. Yes, it does. Supposedly Gene actually wrote that part.
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I think it’s great that Bryan has recorded these songs but you can tell there’s not much effort put into this. I would have loved a better production on ”Rock N Roll Hell”.
Still, as a previous poster wrote, it’s better and more fun to listen to than Mötley’s cover of ”Fight For Your Right”.
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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:16 pm
Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
Strange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?
Odyssey was.
https://youtu.be/i88hta7AJqQ?si=q_bHpJwyG9TBIU3J

King of the Nighttime World was another one.
https://youtu.be/GfHyA0kjltQ?si=rdUt2UHyE4tWjsDV

Is That You was just a demo, wasn’t released.
https://youtu.be/pKK5U4k2qnI?si=mixv7-wUCy8l8VzC

And here’s another one, Gene took the music to a Plasmatics song and put Paul’s Elder era chorus on it and it became Loves A Deadly Weapon.
https://youtu.be/66ocr3Rs9Xo?si=mcyXUa-gPtKDfPxZ
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Zinny wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:08 am I think it’s great that Bryan has recorded these songs but you can tell there’s not much effort put into this. I would have loved a better production on ”Rock N Roll Hell”.
Still, as a previous poster wrote, it’s better and more fun to listen to than Mötley’s cover of ”Fight For Your Right”.
I think they are just the original 80s demos and not re- recordings. Anybody know the real story?
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fret123 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:36 am
Zinny wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:08 am I think it’s great that Bryan has recorded these songs but you can tell there’s not much effort put into this. I would have loved a better production on ”Rock N Roll Hell”.
Still, as a previous poster wrote, it’s better and more fun to listen to than Mötley’s cover of ”Fight For Your Right”.
I think they are just the original 80s demos and not re- recordings. Anybody know the real story?
You might be on to something, I don’t know, but he did a performace video for ”RNR Hell”, so the band has at least rehearsed it enough for that:
https://youtu.be/ac3t0IsvokU?si=HuIIEQpEI-TMv74-
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Covering War Machine and not making it heavier than the original should be a crime.
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I dig it but Gene’s is better.

If it’s a demo it’s a good one.
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I hope those are demos. Otherwise, they spent more money on the video than the song production.
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Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:

Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.

A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
FWIW, when it comes to "War Machine" at least, per an interview with Bryan he said that Gene had the main riff and Bryan turned it into a song from there.
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aznsquirt wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm
Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:

Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.

A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
FWIW, when it comes to "War Machine" at least, per an interview with Bryan he said that Gene had the main riff and Bryan turned it into a song from there.
I'll also add that Gene's third verse in RnR Hell is good and the song lacks without a third verse, as based on Bryan's version. So Gene actually knew something, rather than "change a word, get a third", on that track, anyway.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:19 am
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:16 pm
Hair I Go Again wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
Strange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?
Odyssey was.
https://youtu.be/i88hta7AJqQ?si=q_bHpJwyG9TBIU3J

King of the Nighttime World was another one.
https://youtu.be/GfHyA0kjltQ?si=rdUt2UHyE4tWjsDV

Is That You was just a demo, wasn’t released.
https://youtu.be/pKK5U4k2qnI?si=mixv7-wUCy8l8VzC
I don't know if it's because I'm used to the Kiss versions, but I'm really surprised at how much Paul's voice added so much to these three songs.
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They were all shitty to begin with.

I can’t believe someone sent them that demo of “Is That You” and they thought that was a must to put on their new album. It’s a wacky song anyway. Cat drooling on the barstool?
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