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Nibbler wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:43 pm Al was the biggest cunt in Van Halen, everyone knows that.
You're not the only person I've heard say that, which is why I said what I said about wanting to hear Dave's side of that conversation. Something doesn't add up there. Yeah, Dave can be as grandiose as it gets, but he was making statements about it being a tribute show. He clearly knew it was a tribute show. So, even with Dave being Dave, it doesn't make sense that he'd shoot down a segment about Ed. Something tells me Al wanted to something bigger than just, for example, what Pantera is currently doing with Cemetary Gates for the brothers, and Dave basically told him something to the effect of, "that's too big, it'll wreck the momentum of the show, etc. etc."

What I don't get, was that if Alex hated Sammy that much, how in the FUCK was everyone going to coexist on that "Kitchen Sink" tour that was planned before Ed's cancer came back? The book came out in 2012 and Sammy did the Cabo Wabo deal in 2007, so those bridges were burned LONG before 2019.
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eddie lee roth wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:53 am Can somebody transcribe off of the Rolling Stone site. It won’t let me read it without joining that BS of a website. Please and thank you in advance.
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cowpins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:19 pm
eddie lee roth wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:53 am Can somebody transcribe off of the Rolling Stone site. It won’t let me read it without joining that BS of a website. Please and thank you in advance.
Copy the RS article link and paste it here.

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If you knew what he had to go through to beat the cancer — he wouldn’t do traditional treatment.

So he only did alternative or experimental treatment?
That is insane! Traditional treatment is traditional because, well, it works! Jesús f'n Christ!
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if you knew what he had to go through to beat the cancer — he wouldn’t do traditional treatment
So he only did alternative or experimental treatment?
That is insane! Traditional treatment is traditional because, well, it works! Jesús f'n Christ!
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He got chunks of his tongue cut off and blended up and then it got injected back into him or some fucking weird shit. He intimated on Stern once that it was illegal, he had it done outside the USA.
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Hmmm . . .
Alex called Brian May to process how to continue without Ed ?
Dave should call Yoko Ono. The only reason anyone gave a fuck about her was John Lennon and now that Ed is gone - Dave is in the exact same shoes . . .

and their vocals are pretty similar theses days to

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Anthrax442 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:30 pm What I don't get, was that if Alex hated Sammy that much, how in the FUCK was everyone going to coexist on that "Kitchen Sink" tour that was planned before Ed's cancer came back? The book came out in 2012 and Sammy did the Cabo Wabo deal in 2007, so those bridges were burned LONG before 2019.
It was never anything more than talk from people looking to make money or maybe give Ed some hope that there were things coming down the road for him.

It's like that talk that about Mikey coming back into the band. It was exactly that - talk.

They couldn't even manage getting Mike back in the band so they could go on tour as the original VH.... but they were going to bring Mike back AND get Sammy and Dave to share the lead singer spot and go on tour together?

About a million times less likely than Skid Row reuniting with Bach and bringing Kix w Donnie and Tesla with Gus out as the opening bands. :lol:
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mfgtr wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:27 pm Hmmm . . .
Alex called Brian May to process how to continue without Ed ?
Dave should call Yoko Ono. The only reason anyone gave a fuck about her was John Lennon and now that Ed is gone - Dave is in the exact same shoes . . .

and their vocals are pretty similar theses days to

FUCK YOU ROTH

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There's a reason why Al says there are very few complete songs in the vault.
Van Halen only had two songwriters. Roth and Hagar.
Without Roth, Ed would be as famous as Greg Leon.
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To be fair, Greg Leon is still alive and great with amplifiers...Ed is not.
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:35 pm
He’s at least as cutting in his book: “We had a lot of other singers over the years,” he writes, in his only acknowledgment of the Van Hagar era.
This is disappointing. I wasn't expecting him to fully unload on Sammy the way Sammy did on them in his book, but I don't know how you write a memoir about your brother and skip over five of the platinum albums you made together. But this is a much bigger middle finger to Sam--barely acknowledging him.

Also, is he counting everyone they jammed with among those singers? Otherwise, they had two other singers over the years.

Are we even going to get the "very disrespectful to Beck" VMA's story?

Al is as delusional and bitter as his younger brother.

Roth did them a favor when he left. As much as I hate to admit it, Roth isn’t
Robert Plant. Dave’s solo career is the twilight zone and his personality is even
more bizarre. Dave continue to repeat a lot of the same patterns throughout his career
that drove Eddie nuts in 1982.

I’ll take Plant and The Cov over Roth anytime.

F*ck, I’ll take Sebastian Bach over Roth. Roth was great from 1978
until 1981. After that, he turned into a clown.

I know fans ate it up but that ‘07-‘12 was just sad.

Dave is no Jagger or even Ozzy, and Ozzy has done some real stupid shit
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Very interesting interview. Thanks for the link.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:48 pm Anybody who's on wife #3 can't be a picnic.
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FreddyFender wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:28 pm
Anthrax442 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:30 pm What I don't get, was that if Alex hated Sammy that much, how in the FUCK was everyone going to coexist on that "Kitchen Sink" tour that was planned before Ed's cancer came back? The book came out in 2012 and Sammy did the Cabo Wabo deal in 2007, so those bridges were burned LONG before 2019.
It was never anything more than talk from people looking to make money or maybe give Ed some hope that there were things coming down the road for him.

It's like that talk that about Mikey coming back into the band. It was exactly that - talk.

They couldn't even manage getting Mike back in the band so they could go on tour as the original VH.... but they were going to bring Mike back AND get Sammy and Dave to share the lead singer spot and go on tour together?

About a million times less likely than Skid Row reuniting with Bach and bringing Kix w Donnie and Tesla with Gus out as the opening bands. :lol:
I'd agree with that, except for the fact that Roth was starting to do press (Joe Rogan), and it sounded like they had hold dates at certain stadiums (Yankee Stadium)? I can't imagine it would have gotten that far if it wasn't possible.

But maybe they were just all going through the motions to give Ed something to live for.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:48 pm Anybody who's on wife #3 can't be a picnic.
I was thinking the same thing. Al has always been typical LA. Al, Ed and Dave were all miserable human beings.

Fans always give Mike shit but Al is the biggest coattail rider in the band. Total codependency on his little brother.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:37 pm
if you knew what he had to go through to beat the cancer — he wouldn’t do traditional treatment
So he only did alternative or experimental treatment?
That is insane! Traditional treatment is traditional because, well, it works! Jesús f'n Christ!

All I know is when he said “you’ve gotta drink your Drain-O” all I could think was METH because of how he was looking and acting during that earlier era. If he wasn’t doing traditional treatment he obviously didn’t mean chemo.

But later on when he was going to apparently Germany and Switzerland it sounds like it was more he was getting the most cutting edge treatments available.
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Can't even mention Sammy by name but that bitter cunt would be about one notch up from Bobby Blotzer in the "where are they now" file right now if Sam never joined the band when he did.
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woblinweebles wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:47 pm
cowpins wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:19 pm
eddie lee roth wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:53 am Can somebody transcribe off of the Rolling Stone site. It won’t let me read it without joining that BS of a website. Please and thank you in advance.
Copy the RS article link and paste it here.

https://www.removepaywall.com/
If that doesn't work, try this one:https://archive.is/6VkOJ
Thanks for the link. It was an awesome read.

Can't believe they were actually jamming with Chris Cornell too (and he was also playing bass) - Seems like the timeline was after the last Soundgarden album and before the last Soundgarden tour (there's about a 4 year window in there) - Alex mentions how fragile a state Chris was in at that point. That would have been incredible to hear new music from that.
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So after the 2015 disaster?
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If Ed was able to mend fences with Sam, why not Al? What's he holding onto?
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:11 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:35 pm
He’s at least as cutting in his book: “We had a lot of other singers over the years,” he writes, in his only acknowledgment of the Van Hagar era.
This is disappointing. I wasn't expecting him to fully unload on Sammy the way Sammy did on them in his book, but I don't know how you write a memoir about your brother and skip over five of the platinum albums you made together. But this is a much bigger middle finger to Sam--barely acknowledging him.

Also, is he counting everyone they jammed with among those singers? Otherwise, they had two other singers over the years.

Are we even going to get the "very disrespectful to Beck" VMA's story?

Al is as delusional and bitter as his younger brother.

Roth did them a favor when he left. As much as I hate to admit it, Roth isn’t
Robert Plant. Dave’s solo career is the twilight zone and his personality is even
more bizarre. Dave continue to repeat a lot of the same patterns throughout his career
that drove Eddie nuts in 1982.

I’ll take Plant and The Cov over Roth anytime.

F*ck, I’ll take Sebastian Bach over Roth. Roth was great from 1978
until 1981. After that, he turned into a clown.

I know fans ate it up but that ‘07-‘12 was just sad.

Dave is no Jagger or even Ozzy, and Ozzy has done some real stupid shit
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Thanks for saying what we're all feeling.
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Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:35 am If Ed was able to mend fences with Sam, why not Al? What's he holding onto?
You believe that shit?
The only one who has said there were mended fences was Hagar himself.
And that was after Ed couldn't comment anymore...
I don't believe it for a second....
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Gibsonite wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:47 am Can't even mention Sammy by name but that bitter cunt would be about one notch up from Bobby Blotzer in the "where are they now" file rght now if Sam never joined the band when he did.
And Sam would be Ted Nugent with aliens instead of politics if he didn't get the job in VH.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:11 am
Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:35 am If Ed was able to mend fences with Sam, why not Al? What's he holding onto?
You believe that shit?
The only one who has said there were mended fences was Hagar himself.
And that was after Ed couldn't comment anymore...
I don't believe it for a second....
Yeah Ed was doped up and on death's door.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:11 am
Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:35 am If Ed was able to mend fences with Sam, why not Al? What's he holding onto?
You believe that shit?
The only one who has said there were mended fences was Hagar himself.
And that was after Ed couldn't comment anymore...
I don't believe it for a second....
If it were not true, Al and/or Wolf would have called him out by now.
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Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:44 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:11 am
Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:35 am If Ed was able to mend fences with Sam, why not Al? What's he holding onto?
You believe that shit?
The only one who has said there were mended fences was Hagar himself.
And that was after Ed couldn't comment anymore...
I don't believe it for a second....
If it were not true, Al and/or Wolf would have called him out by now.
Not so sure about that... For the last 20 years the Van Halen modus operandi regarding Hagar has been to not even mention his name and pretend he does not exist, no matter how loudly he cries for attention...
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:22 am
Indy_Rob wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:44 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:11 am
You believe that shit?
The only one who has said there were mended fences was Hagar himself.
And that was after Ed couldn't comment anymore...
I don't believe it for a second....
If it were not true, Al and/or Wolf would have called him out by now.
Not so sure about that... For the last 20 years the Van Halen modus operandi regarding Hagar has been to not even mention his name and pretend he does not exist, no matter how loudly he cries for attention...
100 % not true that they mended fences. Very typical Hagar thing. He even had the nerve to say he wrote a song with Eddie after his death with Ed delivering his part in Sam's dream or something :D

It's fuckin funny Al won't even mention his name.
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Yeah Sam was full of shit about mending fences. Every time he told that story it changed. First he said they texted a few times. Then next interview it was they talked on the phone. Later on he said they were doing video calls. Then it changed that Ed wanted to write songs with him.
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