Lobo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:48 am
The guys in the band have hated Farrell for a long time. I'm assuming the reason they kept going back was because they would make more playing in Jane's than in any other band they could form.
From Wikipedia regarding their first studio album, 1988's Nothing's Shocking:
During the recording sessions, Farrell stated he wanted 50% of the band's publishing royalties for writing the lyrics, plus a quarter of the remaining half for writing music, adding up to 62.5%. Bassist Eric Avery said he and the other members – guitarist Dave Navarro and drummer Stephen Perkins – were stunned by these demands. Farrell refused to compromise. One day Jerden drove to the studio to find Farrell, Navarro and Perkins leaving. Farrell told him the band had broken up and there would be no record. Warner Bros. called an emergency meeting to resolve the situation. Farrell received the royalty percentages he sought, with the other members receiving 12.5 percent each. Avery said the incident had a profound effect on the band, creating an internal fracture.
Not long after the royalties dispute, Farrell and Avery – who had co-founded the band – had a falling-out. This was the result of Avery's newfound sobriety as well as an incident in which Farrell believed Avery had drunkenly tried to pick up his girlfriend. "Unfortunately," Farrell recalled, "the tensions between Eric and I affected the whole family". Some people were asked to take sides, and others just moped about because they didn't know what was going on. Perkins, however, is reported to have got along with Navarro, Avery and Farrell.
"""""""""""""""""The guys in the band have hated Farrell for a long time.""""""""""""""""""""""
This!
And people wonder why Skid Row won't take Sebastian Bach back into their band.
The truth is, they don't really like the guy... they didn't like how he was 30 years ago, and they've watched him act the fool for 25+ years since booting him!
So, to save themselves from what would likely be a 'walking on egg-shells' world and tour with him back... they have simply said; "No thank you."
But... the diehard delusional fanboys won't let it go.
$tEvil
This seems like a stretch. Bach is behaves like a toddler for sure and would be super annoying to be around and that doesn't seem to have changed much in old age, but I never got the vibe any of them despised each other and is there any financial dealings like Jane's Addiction that soured the relationship?
And isn't Perry a drug addict with a nutty wife who wants them to record in Doubly?
Point is Sebastian is likely insufferable to be around and his presence isn't worth the $ to deal with it. I don't think it's much deeper than that. The Jane's thing seems to have much deeper issues than our singer is an obnoxious tool.
If more money was on the table I have no doubt Rachel and Scotti would change their minds.
Lobo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:48 am
The guys in the band have hated Farrell for a long time. I'm assuming the reason they kept going back was because they would make more playing in Jane's than in any other band they could form.
From Wikipedia regarding their first studio album, 1988's Nothing's Shocking:
During the recording sessions, Farrell stated he wanted 50% of the band's publishing royalties for writing the lyrics, plus a quarter of the remaining half for writing music, adding up to 62.5%. Bassist Eric Avery said he and the other members – guitarist Dave Navarro and drummer Stephen Perkins – were stunned by these demands. Farrell refused to compromise. One day Jerden drove to the studio to find Farrell, Navarro and Perkins leaving. Farrell told him the band had broken up and there would be no record. Warner Bros. called an emergency meeting to resolve the situation. Farrell received the royalty percentages he sought, with the other members receiving 12.5 percent each. Avery said the incident had a profound effect on the band, creating an internal fracture.
Not long after the royalties dispute, Farrell and Avery – who had co-founded the band – had a falling-out. This was the result of Avery's newfound sobriety as well as an incident in which Farrell believed Avery had drunkenly tried to pick up his girlfriend. "Unfortunately," Farrell recalled, "the tensions between Eric and I affected the whole family". Some people were asked to take sides, and others just moped about because they didn't know what was going on. Perkins, however, is reported to have got along with Navarro, Avery and Farrell.
"""""""""""""""""The guys in the band have hated Farrell for a long time.""""""""""""""""""""""
This!
And people wonder why Skid Row won't take Sebastian Bach back into their band.
The truth is, they don't really like the guy... they didn't like how he was 30 years ago, and they've watched him act the fool for 25+ years since booting him!
So, to save themselves from what would likely be a 'walking on egg-shells' world and tour with him back... they have simply said; "No thank you."
But... the diehard delusional fanboys won't let it go.
$tEvil
This seems like a stretch. Bach is behaves like a toddler for sure and would be super annoying to be around and that doesn't seem to have changed much in old age, but I never got the vibe any of them despised each other and is there any financial dealings like Jane's Addiction that soured the relationship?
And isn't Perry a drug addict with a nutty wife who wants them to record in Doubly?
Point is Sebastian is likely insufferable to be around and his presence isn't worth the $ to deal with it. I don't think it's much deeper than that. The Jane's thing seems to have much deeper issues than our singer is an obnoxious tool.
If more money was on the table I have no doubt Rachel and Scotti would change their minds.
Off-topic but didn't someone post a video here of Navarro playing a song or two with Marilyn Manson? At least I think it was Navarro...can't recall and it's driving me nuts. Wasn't pro shot, but was a cool tune, slow & heavy. It was Manson and someone, thought it was Dave. I know that's vague as fuck but I do remember seeing it here a couple years ago.
Might not even have been Dave, and it might have been Manson guesting with someone else, not the other way around. My memory is dull as fuck on this one.
Carry on.
*I kinda want a new screenname. Seriously. I barely watch racing anymore.
DangerZone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:00 pm
Sounds like Perry’s right.
He shouldn’t have got in Dave’s personal space, but they shouldn’t have canceled the tour.
Yup
RockSkar wrote:
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
DangerZone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:00 pm
Sounds like Perry’s right.
He shouldn’t have got in Dave’s personal space, but they shouldn’t have canceled the tour.
Yup
Bull fucking shit. That behavior was beyond the pale. Navarro was completely in the right to never go onstage with that abusive psycho. Are you guys on crack? He punched Dave in the face backstage. At what point is it too much for you guys?? Or does anything go? Seriously....
DangerZone wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:00 pm
Sounds like Perry’s right.
He shouldn’t have got in Dave’s personal space, but they shouldn’t have canceled the tour.
Yup
Bull fucking shit. That behavior was beyond the pale. Navarro was completely in the right to never go onstage with that abusive psycho. Are you guys on crack? He punched Dave in the face backstage. At what point is it too much for you guys?? Or does anything go? Seriously....
They may have a case for assault. But they just preemptively canceled the tour - so they may be holding the bag for the money lost. It’s not a matter of feelings
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:24 pm
This all blew up because the band wouldn't let his wife onstage. And then the final straw was when they wouldn't let him play videos of her dancing on the screens during the performance.
Hilarious! It must suck bad to be dependant on that dude to make money.
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:24 pm
This all blew up because the band wouldn't let his wife onstage. And then the final straw was when they wouldn't let him play videos of her dancing on the screens during the performance.
Hilarious! It must suck bad to be dependant on that dude to make money.
Both Perry and the other 3 have tried to do other bands and they never went anywhere, they need eachother. If GNR and The Cult can do it then Janes certainly can
RockSkar wrote:
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:24 pm
This all blew up because the band wouldn't let his wife onstage. And then the final straw was when they wouldn't let him play videos of her dancing on the screens during the performance.
Hilarious! It must suck bad to be dependant on that dude to make money.
Both Perry and the other 3 have tried to do other bands and they never went anywhere, they need eachother. If GNR and The Cult can do it then Janes certainly can
It took Slash getting a divorce from his wife/manager to get him back in GNR.
